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Tue, 26 Sep 2000 10:18:25 -0500
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Re: [idm] urb and integrity, yech..
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On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 11:15:37AM -0400, Rjyan Kidwell wrote:
quoted 8 lines but what i'd really like to know is, who is "the whole dsp/noise scene with> but what i'd really like to know is, who is "the whole dsp/noise scene with > kid606 as its poster child"? is it Mego/Mille Plateaux/etc & the European > glitch noise guys, or Schematic/RKK/Tigerbeat6/etc & the American dsp > fuckery scene? because there's a giant difference. I haven't really heard > much "dsp/noise" that doesn't have a lot of trappings of conventional music > (beats, maybe a melody) coming out of the US except for some of the > Schematic's more experimental stuff, and I was under the impression that > Reynolds was all enamored with that catalog.
Yea, the US stuff is "glitch" but it certainly doesn't fit in the same category as the gltich noise stuff... It definitely draws its influences from it, but I agree that that it's somewhere between glitch noise and IDM. I really think the reason that Kid606 is so popular is because of his image. Sure, I love his music, but I like a lot of other music too. Somebody e-mailed the other day asking why something like Proem isn't getting the coverage that Kid is. Well, it's pretty obvious to me. Could you see Proem opening for Fantomas? Could you see kids who were into punk and now looking for something to listen to getting into Proem? IDM artists make it a habit to be introverted and camera shy. I've never seen a picture of Proem in my life. This is why Aphex was the poster boy of IDM for so long. Sure, once again, his music was good, but it was his image that made him so popular. People who know nothing about IDM tell me that he owns a tank, lives in a bank vault and only sleeps one hour a week. There are whole webpages devoted to his idiosyncracies. In this same vein, Kid606 has established himself as a "rockstar" of IDM. Much the way rap never *really* took off until people like Snoop and Puffy were willing to become rockstars, IDM won't become widely accepted (not that it really wants to be, a lot of the time) until this same phenomenon happens. The day I see Proem doing lines of coke mixed with k off the chests of 15 year old candy-girl fans in front of crowds of 10,000 people, I'll know that they'll be on the cover of every magazine within a month. Until IDM artists are willing to be in the limelight, they are destined to stay only mildly popular as they are today.
quoted 4 lines and I also love how Reynolds is *against* "music that's not music" but is h> and I also love how Reynolds is *against* "music that's not music" but is he > also disparaging of "pop culture rags." ie, "Make listenable, > semi-conventional music, but don't make it so well that it will be > popular!"
That man is so clueless, it hurts. Did you read his fucking feature on Dub? Christ.
quoted 2 lines ps: I also love how I called Alex Reynolds "Reynolds" as if I were his gym> ps: I also love how I called Alex Reynolds "Reynolds" as if I were his gym > teacher.
WHAT'S THE MATTER, REYNOLDS? CAN'T DO A PULLUP? MAYBE YOU SHOULD BE IN HOME EC WITH THE GIRLS! -- :: atomly :: atomly@atomly.com | atomly@atdot.org | atomly@curiousnetworks.com http://www.atomly.com | http://www.mp3.com/atomly --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org