engineers sometimes do a lot of the production work...but I think many
people have a misconception as to what a producer is....typically he's the
guy who brings in rack cases full of guitars/fx/gear/knows what sound to go
for and what the band wants and says okay that was a good take but let's try
this...and the gutar player plays the same note again and they punch him in
in the same spot yada yada yada yada..although many times the producer comes
in w/pro-tools rig and midi gear and and transfers tracks from modules and
computer to analog or whatever then other muscicians come in and play
over/replace a lot of what's there..then some singer walks in who's only
heard the song 10 times and sits there singing into a mic into pro-tools
repeating the same lines over and over so the producer (now editor) can comp
the vocals into one take using every autotune plug-in available
anyway....producer is very misleading. I've seen them stand in the back and
yell at a singer and then leave come back in 2 hours and listen then not
give any reason why but just say do it again...then come back and come back
and say yeah..that's better...sometimes the engineers/talent don't do a
thing to the take and just hang out and wait
however...I feel that Mr. reznor has to be a bit more involved than
that...sure..he has programmers/sound designers/a 2million dollar console
and oodles of time/gear to get what he wants but i just don't see him as the
mindless twit your sarchastic (?) example makes him out to be. i wonder if
cognac helps...hmm I'll try. though port wine didn't so...
there. 1 cup coffee = NIN defense ramble..heh.
steve
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quoted 5 lines From: Chris Fahey <Chris.Fahey@raremedium.com>>From: Chris Fahey <Chris.Fahey@raremedium.com>
>To: idm@hyperreal.org
>Subject: RE: [idm] NIN-bashing and intolerance
>Date: Thu, Sep 21, 2000, 2:38 PM
>quoted 22 lines I feel a bit odd defending NIN, but even his first album was>> I feel a bit odd defending NIN, but even his first album was
>> well produced.
>> If there's one thing Trent can do, it's production work.
>
> From what I understand he hired about three real studio engineers (which, as
> anyone who works in a large studio knows, is the person who does all the
> real production work) many years ago and makes them do all the producing
> work.
>
> I picture it like this. Trent sitting in his basement (catacombs, whatever)
> studio on a throne, smoking a pipe, sipping cognac, and telling his
> "assistants" to "Make it darker! Make it, like, you know, cyber, like
> Autechre but more eerie and less gay! And make sure it's, like, hard, you
> know. And dark."
>
> - Cf
>
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