quoted 1 line From: Loptimiste@aol.com
>From: Loptimiste@aol.comquoted 2 lines So... It's sad that someone was exposed to Aphex Twin through another
>So... It's sad that someone was exposed to Aphex Twin through another
>artist?
If it was a respectable artist, nah. If it was one of the great wank offs
of the pop world, then I would say that was kind of sad that they had to
discover him that way. I suppose if you only listen to corporate rock, and
don't read any good music magazines then it could take a while to find Aphex
Twin.
quoted 1 line How is that sad?
> How is that sad?
It just is man. I could further comment but I don't have the time right now
mate. Remind me at a later date and I will be glad to expand.
quoted 2 lines Too bad you can't justify your ridiculous comment. It's
>Too bad you can't justify your ridiculous comment. It's
>more sad that you're such a bigoted elitist.
Definition of "Bigot" - a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his
or her own opinions and prejudices.
In a racial context being called a bigot would be serious. Being called a
bigot for not liking corporate rock, that cracks me up. Cool man, I'm a
bigot when it comes to NIN, David Hasselhoff, White Zombie, Korn, Prong,
Fleetwood Mac, George Michael, Etc. ETc.
quoted 2 lines <<It really isn't, i mean there are people out there still buying Elton
><<It really isn't, i mean there are people out there still buying Elton
>John and stuff like The Grease sdtk.>>quoted 1 line Could you explain the connection between Elton John and NIN?
>Could you explain the connection between Elton John and NIN?
They both whine when they sing, and seem like emotional wrecks. And they
both SUCK! I find little to nothing at all appealing in their music. And
they both make me laugh.
quoted 2 lines And please use something other than just "they're both bad". I'm
>And please use something other than just "they're both bad". I'm
> >interested to hear your "well thought out argument".quoted 4 lines <<What's surprising is that people are still heavily consuming bad
><<What's surprising is that people are still heavily consuming bad
> >music.>>
>
>Why is that surprising? Plenty of people like bad stuff.
Sorry, I can help wonder how the Insyncs of the world get fans.
Bad Music sells more the good artists. That's surprising.
quoted 1 line But that's their prerogative.
>But that's their prerogative.
Yes it is, but that doesn't mean we can't poke fun at it.
quoted 1 line I'm sure you listen to music that some people classify as "bad".
>I'm sure you listen to music that some people classify as "bad".
Definitely possible, I wouldn't know, the people that I am usually around
like the stuff I am into. Unless they have a prejudice to a certain sound.
Some friends I have acted disgusted when they hear house, no matter how good
it is.
quoted 1 line Who are you to judge?
>Who are you to judge?
I think we are all judges, and have the right to judge what we like or don't
like. What we want to make fun of or praise.
If we want to say we thought Ocean Spray sucked, that our right. So stop
trying to sound like a prissy little bitch.
quoted 1 line Or is it just "bad" in your opinion.
>Or is it just "bad" in your opinion.
Bingo.
quoted 2 lines Then perhaps you should qualify your opinions, instead of making vague
>Then perhaps you should qualify your opinions, instead of making vague
> >comments out to be truths.
I don't think I was being vague. I spoke what is true for me. If you wish
everyone to fully explain everything in detail, I'm sorry to disappoint you
but 80% (+) of the posts on this list are "vague" and don't explain any
truths of the universe.
quoted 3 lines <<Trust me I can laugh when it comes to Trent's music.>>
><<Trust me I can laugh when it comes to Trent's music.>>
>
>It's good to know you have a sense of humor. Or do you?
Most of the time.
quoted 3 lines <<Among the "industrial", he is it's pop king>>
><<Among the "industrial", he is it's pop king>>
>
>Shows how ignorant you are. Nine Inch Nails is hardly "industrial".
In the true sense of the word of course he isn't, artists like Throbbing
Gristle are industrial. You can't deny that "industrial has been used to
described NIN, Skinny Puppy, etc.
You might be surprised if you read old interviews with Trent that he even
refers to his music as industrial. I'm hardly ignorant on that. Even if I
was that's no big crime to be ignorant about shitty music.
quoted 1 line <<That seems quite likely considering the calibre of his music.>>
><<That seems quite likely considering the calibre of his music.>>quoted 3 lines Interesting... Since he takes plenty of time connecting his music
>Interesting... Since he takes plenty of time connecting his music
>thematically, and has rigorous production standards... As well as >doing
>tons of takes to get exactly the sound he wants.
That does not mean that it is good! Often times artists are too self
indulgent on a piece and it stills stinks.
quoted 3 lines I've heard different mixes of NIN songs that Trent has done.. And he's
>I've heard different mixes of NIN songs that Trent has done.. And he's
> >quite capable of producing "autechre" sounding songs if he wanted to.
> >But that's not what he wants to do.
No doubt. There are many people that have substantially less gear that
already do try and sound like Autechre. I haven't heard one copycat that
sounded nearly as good as AE.
quoted 1 line <<Yeah but some people do it well.>>
><<Yeah but some people do it well.>>quoted 2 lines Once again.. What is so "bad" about his music, other than the fact >that
>Once again.. What is so "bad" about his music, other than the fact >that
>you don't like it?
Many people have done a much better making "Industrial". I think he is the
most over-hyped, less talented, biggest ego of all the people involved in
that genre. When you listen to Pretty Hate Machine, you just want to smack
him for being such a whiney bastard. Get over it, your girlfriend left you.
Broken wasn't that bad. Downward Spiral SUCKED. Fragile SUCKS. In general
NIN SUCKS.
quoted 4 lines Is it the visible portion of the population that likes it
>Is it the visible portion of the population that likes it
>(i.e. the high school kids wearing NIN shirts?), or is it something >else?
>Is it because it's "trendy" to like NIN? Or is it something >even more
>SHALLOW than that?
No, I don't really care what people wear. I think the fashion of a style of
music can be pretty silly, but it doesn't bother me.
It bring a smile to my face when I see some little raver with furry pants.
quoted 2 lines Once again.. I challenge you to identify what is so "bad" and "sloppy"
>Once again.. I challenge you to identify what is so "bad" and "sloppy"
>about NIN.
Sorry I'm a little bored of this topic, by now. I would rather talk about
someone that is innovative and interesting. Not about someone that tries to
be spooky by buying the Sharon Tate house (one of Charlie Manson's victims:
Info for the younger idmers).
quoted 3 lines Take it if you like, but if you don't, then obviously you don't have
>Take it if you like, but if you don't, then obviously you don't have
>anything other than stuttering ignorance to back up your inane
> >observations.
You must really think that someone has to be ignorant if they don't like
NIN. Hahahahahahaha How about Korn?
quoted 2 lines You can hide it anyway you like, even under the guise of "i don't even
>You can hide it anyway you like, even under the guise of "i don't even
> >want to bother getting into it."
I addressed your response, as I mentioned I am more than willing to come
back to this discussion at a later date. I don't have much time for this
today. I PROMISE :)
quoted 2 lines If you didn't, then you wouldn't have made those comments in the first
>If you didn't, then you wouldn't have made those comments in the first
> >place.
I'm more than happy to discuss why i think Trent Reznor sucks, why i think
he is a joke, etc. etc. Just remind me. Ok little fella
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