well spoken, and by the way, the carpark show at the knitting factory in nyc
was live and great! having different factions mixing it up onstage worked
amazingly well, especially since those betabodega guys really know how to
microvise. there was even a loud request for encore! i was impressed with
the enthusiasm and size of that crowd, hmmm, should we consider a move? :)
----- Original Message -----
From: "atomly" <atomly@atomly.com>
To: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: [idm] future of idm
quoted 59 lines On Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 09:25:54AM -0700, William Samuels wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 09:25:54AM -0700, William Samuels wrote:
> > In Performance??? You mean the highly riveting mouse
> > clicking between Lexaunculpt & Autechre are different?
>
> Hah!
>
> > Great Live Show?? I didn't think you could really do a
> > whole hell of a lot of "live" improvisation with
> > laptops. At one Lexaunculpt show, Alex had someone
> > else on stage clicking the mouse for him so he could
> > hang in the audience.
>
> Well, I've seen a few really good live performances with laptops.
> Kid606, Jake Mandell and one of Jake Mandell's friends from Minneapolis,
> Brian Tester all use essentially the same approach. Kid606 and Briant
> Tester both use Reaktor to load in different loops and apply effects to
> them in realtime, Jake Mandell uses Max/MSP to do the same thing,
> basically.
>
> While they can't completely improvise, this still allows them to shape
> the music in realtime and really respond to the crowd just as much as
> say a member of a band could.
>
> When I perform live I do any of a number of things... Sometimes I use
> Tactile 12000s or a similar program to mix between songs, which is fun,
> but doesn't really allow me to be any more creative than a DJ really,
> except that I can write a bunch of weird stuff the day of the show to
> throw in.
>
> I've also performed live with AudioMulch and that was completely live.
> The only problem I have with completely live performances is that unless
> you work out a bunch of patterns and stuff beforeheand (thus making them
> not really live), they tend to be really slow-moving and repetitive.
>
> Also, I've seen Dan Doormouse, Abelcain and Venetian Snares all perform
> live with two laptops running trackers (Doormouse and Abelcain use FT2,
> Venetian Snares uses OctaMed) and beatmatch/crossfade DJ style, which is
> cool.
>
> > Sorry to be picky, clicking a mouse doesn't really make for "great
> > live shows" IMHO. Seeing someone using gear is a hell of a lot more
> > interesting. However, if the music is vastly different from the
> > originals that would be nice hearing (not watching).
>
> Well, my main problem with gear is that unless people write a lot of
> loops ahead of time (thus making it not very live anyway), it tends to
> be slow-moving and repetitive.
>
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