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Fri, 30 Jun 2000 21:46:35 PDT
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Re: [idm] Mindless Rant...
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monotony and aesthetics
quoted 98 lines From: "Adam Piontek" <damek@earthling.net>>From: "Adam Piontek" <damek@earthling.net> >Reply-To: "Adam Piontek" <damek@earthling.net> >To: "idm-list" <idm@hyperreal.org> >Subject: Re: [idm] Mindless Rant... >Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 20:51:10 -0500 > >I agree completely, just so you know if you get tons of flames, >you're not alone. I think too much new music comes out with too >little accompanying information (or non-info). > >There are only two possible reasons for this. 1) somebody, the >artist or the label, is being LAZY .... and 2) small labels can't >afford the printing costs and they are betting the music is good >enough to get you hooked and buying so they can make enough money to >do the job right the next time... > >actually, there's a third option, which may be the worst: 3) whoever >makes the decision about the liner notes and artwork is of the >regrettable opinion that no info or minimalist art is somehow artsy >or cool or whatever. give it up! minimalism isn't better than other >options, it's just one option of many. go wild! > >on the subject of equipment lists - this bores me to no end, but >that's only (probably) because i'm not involved in making music nor >do i care much about the specifics of the process. however, the >recent Varathane CD-R on Hydrant/Sprout came with one square peice of >paper, and they managed to include an equipment list on it. >-adam > >On Fri, 30 Jun 2000 20:29:20 CDT, David Moore wrote: > >Sorry in advance for flooding your mailboxes with more off-topic mail, >but > >i've been somewhat bothered by something lately. I've noticed that >almost > >all of the cds and albums i've bought recently have been extrordinarily > >boring. Not to say that music today is boring, because in fact i've been > >finding more good music lately than i can afford to buy, but liner art >and > >information has become very scant. I can understand minimalism, but i'm > >getting tired of the only writing on an album being from the record >company, > >and the artwork a sinle boring picture, or worse a wash of color, excuse >me > >if i'm wrong but color fields were ever done back in the 50's. > > > >Try picking up a re-release of some jazzer or pop star from years past, >you > >have more liner notes than you can read in the span of an album >listening, > >from artist thoughts to reviews, tour notes, what was played, why it was > >revolutionary, lyrics, etc etc etc... then i go pick up an autechre cd or > >some other flavor of the month and nothing... An old argument for buy an > >album vs. mp3s is packaging, well packaging is virtually non-existant. >I > >want something more than a single page insert, picture on front, plain >back. > > or a two page book thats a solid color... I don't even care what they >put > >in them anymore, just put something. shout outs, equipment lists, lyric > >sheet (i know i'm reaching there), pictures of the people contributing, >real > >artwork, the bands favorite cheesecake recipe, a manifesto, i just want a > >little something to look at while the music plays. > > > >This isn't to say everyone has neglected their albums. Third eye > >foundation's Little Lost Soul had a lot of pretty pictures to look at, >and > >even a little bit to read while the beats and noise played. And there >are > >plenty more. > > > >Well again sorry, I just had to get that off my chest before i go out buy > >another album and break the plastic wrap to find a gatefold of another > >boring earthtone and shoot the salesperson. > > > > David <please don't hate me> > > > >________________________________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > >-- >Adam Piontek [http://www.tcinternet.net/users/damek/] >ICQ: 3456339 [damek@earthling.net] >... If you smoke after sex, you're doing it too fast! > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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