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Paul Robinson
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Fri, 30 Jun 2000 16:31:32 +0000
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Re: [idm] Why Cylob's "Industrial Folk Songs" is so good
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You've summed it up pretty well there to me, I went through a stage of making a lot of this sort of stuff and can't explain why I went through that phase. Angst or something.. ? :)
quoted 61 lines Please elaborate on what you find worthwhile about Industrial Folksongs..>>Please elaborate on what you find worthwhile about Industrial Folksongs.. > >Industrial Folk Songs belongs to a pan-genre categoy of Extreme Music. > >What is extreme music? It's any music that takes something that audiences >generally don't like, isolate it and magnify it. > >When Charlie Parker and Dizzy Gillespie were formulating Be-Bop, many >listeners complained that it was too fast, random, and obtuse. But they >weren't concerned with satisfying listeners expectations honed by Glenn >Miller and Tommy Dorsey. They were pursuing their own style, making music >that expressed what they felt inside. > >Jimi Hendrix took the sound that most electric guitarists of his day sought >to avoid -- distorted, overdriven, noisy. He made that the core of how >he played. > >Sonic Youth formed a career around taking the crazy difficult part of >Hendrix's >playing -- the feedback and soupy effects upon effects -- and left his >more melodic, lyrical playing out. The result was to redefine the aesthetic >-- work with something ugly until you can make it beautiful if you can >find a new way of listening. > >Bob Mould in an interview described early Husker Du shows, where at the >end of the set they'd play one note, over and over again until half of the >audience left. The result was to let the audience self-sort, so that >only the people who were really with the band were left. > >I attended a Philip Glass Ensemble concert here in Iowa City in the late 70s >where half the audience left at intermission. The same effect -- everyone >who came because it was part of a classical subscription series without >knowing what to expect were gone, and the remainder of the audience were >well up for what he had to offer. > >Industrial Folk Songs fits this strategy. I remember before it came out, >Grant from Rephlex got onto IDM and hyped it as something entirely new. >For it's time it was -- even as it partook of influences from industrial >music, gabber and US Drop-Bass hardcore. He deliberately worked with a >pallete >of sounds that were harsh and ugly. These were not tracks that met you >half way -- you had to go all the way to where they were in order to get it. > >Now if you aren't (in the hip hop parlance) feeling it, it's not any >disrespect to you. Everyone should really listen to what speaks to their >condition. It is simply music that makes no concessions to the audience. >There is beauty to be found there, but the music formulates its own >aesthetic, instead of fitting into an existing aesthetic. > >Either you'll like it or you won't. Give it a chance, though and >you may come to respect it and see what it's about. > > > > >kent williams -- kent@avalon.net > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
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