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Jason J. Tar
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Fri, 16 Jun 2000 07:48:27 -0400
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[idm] Sampling and "Art"ists.
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At 12:06 AM 6/16/00 +0000, you wrote:
quoted 5 lines When I experience art, however, I always imagine myself making the art. It's>When I experience art, however, I always imagine myself making the art. It's >part of how I think about all art, and I think a lot of other people do this >to one degree or another, by imagining the artmaking process. I put myself >in the artist's shoes and imagine why he or she made the decisions they did. >I don't overintellectualize, I just do it automatically.
...gag... The whole idea of "artists" and glorifying people in such a manner is such crap. "Oooh, look at that work...s/he is such an ARTIST. Oooh.". Instead of dreaming, do it yourself and get over it. Demystify the act.
quoted 2 lines I was disappointed to find out that Vibert>I was disappointed to find out that Vibert >didn't create his art the way I thought he did.
Well quit critiquing and do it yourself then. If he did do the speaking himself, someone else would just be whining that he stole the idea from another. It is a no win situation. ...and why are you assuming that just because it is a sample and not his voice that it changes the meaning (if there is one) of the track? One can sample and mean something at the same time.
quoted 3 lines By the same token it may be my fault for>By the same token it may be my fault for >assuming that an artist I admire might put some intellectual thought into >the words that I hear on his records.
You are making the assumption that sampling takes no thought. It takes twice the thought...deciding what you want said and then finding it. I'm ever impressed by Bomb20 who says things using the voices of many. It'd be a hundred times easier for him to just speak it, but to pull unique sentences out of samples takes time and a lot of searching.
quoted 2 lines By the way, I can't beleive that although I specifically said that I wasn't>By the way, I can't beleive that although I specifically said that I wasn't >saying anything bad about sampling,
...but you were. Basically, your argument came down to "it would be ok if he said it, but instead he sampled it so it is crap". Which seems an attack on sampling... JJTar... --- Peace Hugs and Unity Jason J. Tar W. W. J. D? (What would Jason Do?) ICQ@13792120 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org