quoted 28 lines From: esa ruoho <esaruoho@dlc.fi>
>From: esa ruoho <esaruoho@dlc.fi>
>To: Chris Fahey <chris.fahey@raremedium.com>
>CC: idm <idm@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: Re: [idm] Big Soup Question - Sampling Commentary
>Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 22:33:08 +0300
>
>Chris Fahey wrote:
> > > that sample is from a 12" that my girlfriend has, some old educational
> > > record. it has an old(ish) man explaining filters, first he
> > > says something
> > > normally then throught the filter.
> > I'm not saying sampling is bad or that Luke Vibert is bad. I'm
> > just saying its sad to see someone use a sample when doing the actual
>work
> > might have generated more interesting results without too much
>additional
> > effort.
>
>i'm just guessing here but what if he chose to sample that because
>of the inflection and the texture of the voice, or that he liked the
>idea of having something like that in there. sometimes hearing something
>and sampling it is so much faster and so much more fresh than putting it
>down to bits and plagiarising it yourself, with possibly even worse
>results. when the original is "right", why _try_ to re-do it?
>
>i know when i finally get around to sampling these linguaphone vinyls
>i'll sample the bits that crack me up, and not write them down and
>speak/recreate them myself just for the point of being original..
exactly. on KMD's album, "Mr. Hood," they staged conversations with a dusty
language record, sampling bits and pieces of it to make it coherent. they
even threw in a dis from the record, "your mother likes to visit the old
churches."
IMHO, sampling is used most widely for not only what is being
said/played/whatever, but for capturing 1) the medium on which it was
recorded (catching pops of vinyl, tape hiss, etc.), 2) nuances of the
recording itself, and 3) possible cultural/musical references construed in
the music (i.e., a LOT of artists in hip-hop sample the music and lyrics of
their predecessors.)
luke could've recreated the ring modulation himself, but that's besides the
point. i am not saying vibert or any other artist using extensive samples
has a certain goal of retaining any of the above qualities i mentioned, but
i think you'll agree sampling richard pryor for instance is a lot funnier
and authentic than saying whatever it is he said yourself.
zachary
zacharymastoon@hotmail.com
np- pole 1
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