quoted 2 lines The original poster is only asking why people decide to spend time with> The original poster is only asking why people decide to spend time with
> Kid606's expressions, as well as spend more money on them.
actually -- several people, including myself answered why we like kid606,
what attracted us to his music, and what keeps us coming back.
quoted 5 lines It's quite> It's quite
> unrealistic to say that a piece of music (or a person's entire pantheon of
> expression) says the exact same thing to everyone who is exposed to them,
> much like how people see different things in Picasso's abstractions and
> Hemingway's stories.
which is why i think this hype thread is bullshit. everyone has their own
opinion. and its great if people disagree -- hell, if we all agreed id be
forced to a life of MAS releases and Amber. I cannot think of anything
more dull.
the reason i made a "stink" about the whole hype thing is because of the
absurd ways the word "hype" can be thrown around. yes, kid606 got a silly
write up in a damn apple magazine. but somehow this is being used as an
example that all the praise is "hype" -- which is "unacceptable".
but then things that are very cookie cutter idm like arovane (who are one
of my absolute fave acts right now by the way and capture a mood i can
relate to) are not unacceptable hype, but acceptable hype (or
"attention").
im just REALLY sick of people (especially the IDM community, or at least
a vocal portion of it on this list) being so closed minded. and i am NOT
talking about musical taste -- i could care less what you like and do not
like --- by all means, dont change! in fact, i like hearing how people
really feel about music.. but when folks start generalizing people's
opinions as HYPE because they do not fit the norm (by that respect, this
whole list is hype because it is not top 40) -- it just gets old.
a little story to back this up:
two vocal kids on this list one time grilled me on why i liked noise.
they insisted that there is "no way [i] could like something like that"
and that i was full of shit and only looking for shock value. now, these
were two fellows that i REALLY respect, but it was so annoying that it
annoys me still to think about it..
[okay, so not much of a story, but you get the idea]
i see this whole HYPE thread in the same way. some people cannot
understand how people would like something, and rather than asking [as the
original poster actually did], they assume they are part of this "hype"
machine that for some reason is REALLY trying to push worthless music
over the top and drown out the floods of MAS, Schematic, Early Autechre
and Aphex stuff that makes them wiggle... all just to piss someone off.
and to me this is all just THAT absurd.
that said i will agree that some things have been overhyped !
but i do NOT see kid606 as one of them - and if he was producing stuff
fitting for Warp or MAS i think the press would go un-noticed.
an example of what i feel was hype: various friends of mine on this list
stating things like "lexaunculpt schools autechre" :) (oh, for the
record, alex is a personal fave of mine, but i mist certainly do not think
he schools anyone).
anyway, yes i made generalizations, and spoke in lots of "theys" and
"thems" -- but it was the best way for me to express just what annoys me
about this list. oh, and the whole trashing on the rave culture is
annoying as fuck too, but that just confirms my belief that i am in the
company of fellow snobs.
thanks for the time,
chris.
it.s ok to like noise it.s okay to like house it.s okay to like pop
"nothing but respect to hello kitty"
_we are all lost
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