I love Footloose.
On May 8, 2015 3:10 PM, "Clint Anderson" <clinta@gmail.com> wrote:
quoted 218 lines i thought it was footwork but it was just a cd of snare rush's with a skip
> i thought it was footwork but it was just a cd of snare rush's with a skip
> on it
>
>
> Clint Anderson
> Systems Engineer
>
> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 4:06 PM, Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> did you listen to it on weed tho
>>
>> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 4:50 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> i dont think its so much a matter of 'liking' it as its really easy to
>>> press the same button several times
>>>
>>>
>>> Clint Anderson
>>> Systems Engineer
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 3:44 PM, kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think that there's a lot of subtlety in Jlins beats and song
>>>> structures; but she does like that machine-gun repeat thing. You can make
>>>> fun of superficial traits of her music, or meet her halfway and listen for
>>>> what's interesting in it. Or not; plenty of other music for you to listen
>>>> to.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 1:12 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> disclaimer: don't get too pissed off, i am trolling to some degree
>>>>> here :)
>>>>>
>>>>> just tried to listen to jlin's dark energy and gave up .... here are
>>>>> some tips for footwork producers:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. even your MPC has velocity control, that means that individual
>>>>> hits/notes/etc can actually be at different volumes from one another
>>>>> 2. the MPC can actually play samples at different pitches, in fact,
>>>>> you can create what are called 'melodies' consisting of two or more notes
>>>>> at different frequencies
>>>>> 3. for many decades now, devices known as 'effects' have been made
>>>>> available, many of which are built into your MPC -- for fun, trying
>>>>> applying an 'effect' to one of the sounds in your 'song' -- the results can
>>>>> be fascinating and are very popular in most every genre.
>>>>> 4. drum sounds -- did you know? you can load different drum sounds
>>>>> into your MPC. that's right, now, not every song has to use the same
>>>>> hi-hat, snare, and bassdrum, on every single one of your albums, for your
>>>>> entire career.
>>>>> 5. did you know? you can change the parameters of sounds on the MPC,
>>>>> using parameters like attack, decay, sustain and release, to alter your
>>>>> sounds
>>>>> 6. you can load more than 9 samples into your MPC. i know, it's
>>>>> confusing, because there are only 9 buttons, but, my understanding is that
>>>>> these buttons can actually be assigned to different sounds, and over the
>>>>> course of several albums, you could use different sounds on EVERY ALBUM or
>>>>> even every song
>>>>>
>>>>> i realize im not from the same background as people producing
>>>>> footwork, but i am 100% confident that a manual is provided for the MPC
>>>>> series
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Clint Anderson
>>>>> Systems Engineer
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 4:36 PM, kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Who are you and where are you from? If you were African-American and
>>>>>> lived in Chicago, you might not like Footwork either, but I doubt you'd
>>>>>> belittle the entire genre. You're allowed your opinion, but your reaction
>>>>>> rubbed me the wrong way; you made it sound like the people making that
>>>>>> music were getting away with something.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't live in Chicago but I go their a fair amount and know the
>>>>>> music scene there fairly well; the one thing I know is that it's serious,
>>>>>> and highly competitive. No one gets away with making mediocre music; any
>>>>>> Footwork tracks you're likely to hear released on e.g. Planet Mu is not
>>>>>> going to be half-assed. You may not like it, it may not speak to your
>>>>>> condition, but to criticize it that way makes me think you're just hearing
>>>>>> it, not listening to it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And you're under no obligation to like it or listen to it. There's
>>>>>> too much music and life's too short to listen to things you don't enjoy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:41 PM Jared Dunne <22tape@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "To say "The genre that sounds like some kid forgot to add a snare
>>>>>>> to his half-assed Fruity Loops rap instrumental" is to dismiss a whole
>>>>>>> musical culture based on a very shallow listening experience, and no
>>>>>>> understanding of the culture in which it grew up."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Careful, silly-pants Kent, you're walking the ignorant line
>>>>>>> yourself, and sounding like an academic from the burbs who's just trying to
>>>>>>> relate. You don't know me or where I'm from. If I'm from the same musical
>>>>>>> culture and the same socio-economic background as most peeps who make
>>>>>>> Footwork, am I still ignorant and shallow? Am I allowed to have an opinion
>>>>>>> then? Good, because I am. And most Footwork sucks. And I don't have to
>>>>>>> put "IMO" because I am the one saying it, and it's obviously my opinion. I
>>>>>>> much prefer Bluegrass.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now, hugs all around!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 10:38 AM, kent williams <
>>>>>>> chaircrusher@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Every genre defines conventions. Every genre, furthermore demands
>>>>>>>> a different sort of listening if you're going to understand and enjoy it.
>>>>>>>> To say "The genre that sounds like some kid forgot to add a snare to his
>>>>>>>> half-assed Fruity Loops rap instrumental" is to dismiss a whole musical
>>>>>>>> culture based on a very shallow listening experience, and no understanding
>>>>>>>> of the culture in which it grew up.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Juke/Footwork music is very much the product of kids with cracked
>>>>>>>> copies of Fruity Loops; they work with the tools they have. The motivation
>>>>>>>> was to make music whose purpose is to accompany footwork dancing, which is
>>>>>>>> competetive, athletic and intense. The idea is to have the freshest,
>>>>>>>> trickiest rhythm, often played back on shitty boomboxes or Frankenstein
>>>>>>>> sound systems.. Footwork, like Jit in Detroit, is both dance and stylized
>>>>>>>> warfare; it sublimates the violence and frustration of life in "Chiraq."
>>>>>>>> It is something positive in an environment where people are confronted
>>>>>>>> daily with unrelenting negative things.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There's a billion footwork tracks and thousands of people making
>>>>>>>> it. Inevitably most of it is not very good, but like any other genre, when
>>>>>>>> it's good it's great.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's OK not to like musical styles. I bet you're not so hot on
>>>>>>>> bluegrass music as well. But like my grandmother always told me about cream
>>>>>>>> corn, "it's better to say you don't care for it than say you hate it."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 12:26 PM David Bohan <madvlad00@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Kent,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why does Jared have to be ignorant to not like Footwork? It seems
>>>>>>>>> like Jared just thinks this kind of music does not require much effort or
>>>>>>>>> much of it is the same.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I listened to the compilation album "Bangs & Works Vol. 1" and
>>>>>>>>> have found his sentiment to be true for most of the tracks on that release,
>>>>>>>>> with some exceptions of course.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Now Jlin's release here is much more experimental and fresh
>>>>>>>>> sounding than the long tracks of TV show themes spread out over lazy beats.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Jared Dunne <22tape@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ignorant or silly? Either way, I can't help myself, Kent!
>>>>>>>>>> Honestly, Jlin's stuff isn't that bad. But for some reason it all sounds a
>>>>>>>>>> bit unfinished to me. But if peeps want to call it minimal, so be it!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 12:18 PM, kent williams <
>>>>>>>>>> chaircrusher@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jared, stop being ignorant.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 11:04 AM Jared Dunne <22tape@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ah yes, Footwork. The genre that sounds like some kid forgot
>>>>>>>>>>>> to add a snare to his half-assed Fruity Loops rap instrumental. Yay
>>>>>>>>>>>> world!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 10:51 AM, David Bohan <
>>>>>>>>>>>> madvlad00@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I haven't heard of "Footwork"... is this a new genre of music
>>>>>>>>>>>>> or something?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The tracks you linked to sound interesting to say the least.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Find it also curious that Jlin works at a steel mill in Gary, Indiana...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not much music prides itself on coming from Indiana
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 11:29 AM, kent williams <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> chaircrusher@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm surprised footwork/juke hasn't been a bigger thing on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IDM list. This new record on Planet Mu is revelatory.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.planet.mu/discography/ZIQ356
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> 22tape/jared dunne
>>>>>>>>>>>> listen <http://22tape.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> 22tape/jared dunne
>>>>>>>>>> listen <http://22tape.com>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> 22tape/jared dunne
>>>>>>> listen <http://22tape.com>
>>>>>>>
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