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Wed, 24 May 2000 15:19:06 +0100 (BST)
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[idm] Mam..they're saying nasty things about us...
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Those nasty UK Dance people are saying horrid things about us again... (see below) Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 23:55:42 +0100 (BST) From: A Bhattacharyya Subject: Fuck IDM Re this IDM debate... the basic problem with IDM (and I'm talking about the overall scene here as opposed to individual artists) is its fundamental conservatism. Despite all the cliches about "pushing the envelope", "breaking boundaries" etc it subscribes to a reactionary notion of what art is that is little more than a caricature retread of late 19th century and early 20th century modernism. Specific examples: the artist-as-creative-hero motif, the sneering cod-Nietzschean dismissal of the masses, the art-for-art's-sake aesthete stance that can only conceive of the dancefloor as a constraint, the disdain for "utilitarian" funktionality. The fact is that despite the many creative and intelligent people working in and around IDM, the scene is characterised by a bovine dismal refusal to think through these questions, an uncritical acceptance of bourgeois artistic values and a smug ignorance of the key developments and debates around 20th century music. Summarising: IDM just ain't intelligent *enough*. Having said that, there are a few artists classed as IDM that soar above the middle-brow middle-of-the-road mediocrity that characterises the scene-that-pretends-it-isn't. I'd say Aphex Twin falls into this category. As does Oval/Mille Plateaux. Should also stress that I don't have a problem with experimentalism-for-experimentalism's-sake, my problem is with conservatism-dressed-as-experimentalism. <<<<<< Is it ok to go out again yet? ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org