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Dave Segal
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Mon, 20 Dec 1999 18:15:45 -0400
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Re: (idm) beatmatching etc.
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quoted 4 lines From: "Brock @ Motormouthmedia" <bmotor@pacbell.net>>From: "Brock @ Motormouthmedia" <bmotor@pacbell.net> >To: gordona@innovaction.com, idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: (idm) beatmatching etc. >Date: Mon, Dec 20, 1999, 1:31 AM
quoted 44 lines Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 12:50:29 -0500>Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 12:50:29 -0500 >To: idm@hyperreal.org >From: "Allen, Gordon" <gordona@innovaction.com> >Subject: IDM D.J.s > >hi, > >are there any IDM D.J.s out there who beatmatch their records? i'd like to >hear from some of you - your experiences, philosophies, etc. personally, i >started out as an IDM 'crossfading' DJ, and later picked up beatmatching >skills by buying a wackload of techno records. now i'm matching my IDM >records, but haven't had that many opportunities to play this to a captive >crowd. i think that IDM that's more electro or minimal techno-based would >be the easiest to beatmatch, and to get people dancing. but i'd love to >hear from someone who has thrown something really strange into their set, to >hear if people responded or stopped and scratched their heads. >> >> > >My 0.02 - it's difficult to actually DJ this stuff and do it well (simple >crossfades don't count in my book, even ambient DJ's will do more than that, >layering and using effects and eq's), only a few folks I know of like >Mixmaster Morris and DJ Lovegrove (Sonic Soul, DC) can pull it off on the >technique tip and spin interesting records at the same time. > >>From my own experience, it's kind of unrewarding to be an idm DJ in that you >can't pull off a lot of the "tricks" that work so well with other >styles...scratch-style mixing usually disturbs the flow of the track unless >it's subtle, and doing stuff like dropping out the bass or tweaking the eq >just isn't as effective as when you're working with bass-heavy, 4/4 rhythms. >And while fluid beatmatching is prolly the best mixing style with this kind >of music, it's often difficult because tracks have odd rhythms or sound so >dissimilar it's nearly impossible to make'em blend well. > >On one hand, I love this music for that very reason and it's a challenge to >spin it out. But on the other, it's hard to play idm to a crowd and get any >kind of reaction other than a trainspotting neck craning over the decks. I >kind of got jaded about all that a year or so ago, stopped buying as many >straight-up idm records (the music also started to bore me), and playing >more electro/techno/deep house sounds. Somewhat more engaging to actually >DJ, and certainly more effective when you play it live to a crowd. So it's >kind of a catch 22, some of the best music can be some of the most boring to >spin as a DJ. Any other idm jocks (Lance, Teep, etc?) have opinions on >this?
It *is* hard as hell to beatmatch IDM records, but I've found that good transitions can be achieved by seguing tracks that have similar synth/percussion/DSP sounds. I've done some sets with lots of Chocolate Industries, Skam, Schematic, Rephlex, Warp, Spymania, DHR, Force Inc and Mego releases and succeeded in getting a good, semi-seamless flow. That said, with IDM DJ sets, abrupt, fucked-up transitions can be rewarding, too. I'd rather hear several great tracks unbeatmatched than a perfectly beatmatched set of sterile trance or cheesy house. In IDM-land, trainspotting is the equivalent of getting dancers to raise their arms--though a few brave, nimble souls *can* shake it to this music. Dave Segal Managing Editor/Alternative Press Reviews/BPM/Reissue Redux/Origins Of Cool Secret Ions on WCSB Thursdays 9-11PM EST www.wcsb.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org