Hey Brock,
actually, the good doctor fluff (my music partner) did this quite a
bit...although the results are another story altogether...
yes, it's quite an odd thing to try...i'm replying because i sit and listen
to him do it all the bloody time...
but, i even played around with his decks and had some fun with it...
i went from an Autechre bit from Tri Repetae to a Gas track...and it was
pretty much a crossfader thing...with some sample bits from an Orb
thing(which was in turn sampled from a source unknown to me)...it sounded
ok...but then again, i'm a guitarist...nowhere near any sort of DJ...i was
just screwing around...but the whole thing sounded nice...even for me!!
but i wanted to post to this as i have developed quite an ear for mixing
over the last year...and DJ and i have talked a bit about the oddity of
mixing IDM and such...Ambient is obviously the easiest of all to mix...i
could even do real primitive ambient mixing...but the real ambient dj's take
it to the next level (as Brock states regarding the sonic soul cats)...and
that's something i can't do, obviously...again, i'm NOT any kind of DJ...
but i also once mixed some strange sounds with a very uptempo Aphex electro
thing once...and it sounded OK...
well...just wanted to put in some words because it is an interesting
topic...
Brock, there's tons of IDM stuff that can be danced to...i've heard a
lot...lots CANNOT "get any grooves on", but there are a lot of dancy idm
tracks out there...
Prof. V
quoted 35 lines From: "Brock @ Motormouthmedia" <bmotor@pacbell.net>
>From: "Brock @ Motormouthmedia" <bmotor@pacbell.net>
>To: gordona@innovaction.com, idm@hyperreal.org
>Subject: (idm) beatmatching etc.
>Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 13:31:04 +0800
>
> >
> >
>Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 12:50:29 -0500
>To: idm@hyperreal.org
>From: "Allen, Gordon" <gordona@innovaction.com>
>Subject: IDM D.J.s
>
>hi,
>
>are there any IDM D.J.s out there who beatmatch their records? i'd like to
>hear from some of you - your experiences, philosophies, etc. personally,
>i
>started out as an IDM 'crossfading' DJ, and later picked up beatmatching
>skills by buying a wackload of techno records. now i'm matching my IDM
>records, but haven't had that many opportunities to play this to a captive
>crowd. i think that IDM that's more electro or minimal techno-based would
>be the easiest to beatmatch, and to get people dancing. but i'd love to
>hear from someone who has thrown something really strange into their set,
>to
>hear if people responded or stopped and scratched their heads.
> >
> >
>
>My 0.02 - it's difficult to actually DJ this stuff and do it well (simple
>crossfades don't count in my book, even ambient DJ's will do more than
>that,
>layering and using effects and eq's), only a few folks I know of like
>Mixmaster Morris and DJ Lovegrove (Sonic Soul, DC) can pull it off on the
>technique tip and spin interesting records at the same time.
>
From my own experience, it's kind of unrewarding to be an idm DJ in that
quoted 35 lines you
>you
>can't pull off a lot of the "tricks" that work so well with other
>styles...scratch-style mixing usually disturbs the flow of the track unless
>it's subtle, and doing stuff like dropping out the bass or tweaking the eq
>just isn't as effective as when you're working with bass-heavy, 4/4
>rhythms.
>And while fluid beatmatching is prolly the best mixing style with this kind
>of music, it's often difficult because tracks have odd rhythms or sound so
>dissimilar it's nearly impossible to make'em blend well.
>
>On one hand, I love this music for that very reason and it's a challenge to
>spin it out. But on the other, it's hard to play idm to a crowd and get
>any
>kind of reaction other than a trainspotting neck craning over the decks. I
>kind of got jaded about all that a year or so ago, stopped buying as many
>straight-up idm records (the music also started to bore me), and playing
>more electro/techno/deep house sounds. Somewhat more engaging to actually
>DJ, and certainly more effective when you play it live to a crowd. So it's
>kind of a catch 22, some of the best music can be some of the most boring
>to
>spin as a DJ. Any other idm jocks (Lance, Teep, etc?) have opinions on
>this?
>
>
>
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