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From:
drift wood
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jre
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Date:
Mon, 15 May 2000 13:57:11 +0100 (BST)
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Re: [idm] Re: Autechre make Jazz? Kurt Weill and Duke Ellington, writing IDM?
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--- jre <jre@libertysurf.fr> wrote:
quoted 6 lines I don't know if Autechre make jazz or not. I can locate some original> I don't know if Autechre make jazz or not. I can locate some original > jazz > constructions and gestures in ep7 but I like to think they're not > falling > into the "jazzy" pit. "Jazzy" elements or atmosphere indicate dead > jazz.
What the hell is a Jazzy element? Are you talking about a choice of chord progression that changes key regularly or are you talking about the instrumental palette?...or something else? The spread of artists that fall under the Jazz label is so wide that your complaint above is meaningless.
quoted 8 lines Most of what is out there at the moment under the name "jazz" : some> Most of what is out there at the moment under the name "jazz" : some > truly > pathetic product of too old students of dead teachers. And Spacetime > Continuum, Amon Tobin or Jay Swinscoe are even less interesting : > they're > "jazzy", expressing the inferiority complex developed by lowbrows > towards > highbrow music.
So it's ok for producers to be influenced by Kraftwerk but not by Miles Davis? Or is there some Jazz that it's ok to be influenced by? Perhaps you should give us a list.
quoted 6 lines On the contrary, Music is Rotted One Note : hi-tech> On the contrary, Music is Rotted One Note : hi-tech > jazz at > its best, highly conscious of its tech shifts. Otherwise, please > ditch the > corpse. >
The last 2 times I've seen an artist clear the room of 75% of the audience because of the ferocity of their music was Squarepusher at his regular appearances at Anokha (satisfying to see all the Hoxton mediaocracy rushing out of the room) and Tony Williams (the Miles Davis drummer) and his band at the Jazz Cafe. The post-bop noise was so tough that the Jazz supper audience were choking on their gnocchi. Jazz can still be loud and angry when it wants to be and when it is it makes Ed Rush and Optical sound like a pair of pussy cats. Matt. PS. Tony Williams - rest in peace. Best drummer ever. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org