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From:
kent williams
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C A , Dimitrij
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Idm List
Date:
Wed, 29 Apr 2015 22:12:07 +0000
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Re: How do you listen to recorded music?
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People generally rate Genelec monitors over Adam at the same price point, but your best bet is to find somewhere to actually hear them in action. And honestly, I'd use a recording of acoustic performances -- bluegrass, string quartets, etc -- in addition to what you normally listen to, after familiarizing yourself with the music on a system you already know. It's really hard to judge the quality of speakers when you're listening to electronic music, since it's made up of artificial sounds that are treated and manipulated heavily. A live performance in a natural reverberant space is the most difficult to reproduce accurately, and is great for pointing out weakness in a playback system. Another acid test are bells and chimes. Something like this might be a good reference CD if it doesn't drive you nuts ;-) http://amzn.to/1zeuLG4 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 3:08 PM C A <claal67@gmail.com> wrote:
quoted 163 lines Ok!> Ok! > > I have been looking into Adam A7X for studio monitors. Would you recommend > them for mostly electronic music? > > 29 apr 2015 kl. 19:51 skrev Dimitrij <dekantierer@googlemail.com>: > > for mac I never found a better player than http://cogx.org/ > does not need any "library", just your music folder, light as hell, plays > flac.... fuck I love it. > > I'm listening on Cabasse Moorea 420 + AMC Amplifier or Adam A7X / Babyface > in the Studio. > > @Clint I got 3 original dynaco a25 woofers in fine condition, which I > would sell. > Just if you need them one day. > > > 2015-04-29 19:40 GMT+02:00 Claes <claal67@gmail.com>: > >> Which player do you recommend for flacs on mac and pc respectively? >> >> >> > 28 apr 2015 kl. 08:04 skrev Michael Bramwell <mbramwell@gmail.com>: >> > >> > In the lounge rooms its: >> > >> > 2 x Technics 1210 Mk 2 >> > Digital comes from a macbook pro via audio8 soundcard (flacs are >> > preferred but mp3s are fine as well) >> > >> > The above go through an Xone:92 mixer and out to some Behringer Truth >> > B2031A monitors, which unlike everything else behringer make are >> > pretty nice, at least to my ears. >> > >> > On the bus to work its just some tunes via my droid and some >> > Sennheiser CX 300-II Precision ear buds. >> > >> > My first choice is always vinyl, followed by flacs, cds never as they >> > quickly get scratched beyond use in mine and my kids hands. >> > >> > On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 9:51 AM, karl poechlauer >> > <karljpoechlauer@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> Technics 1210 Mk 2 >> >> >> >> BEHRINGER MICROPHONO PP400 phono preamp >> >> >> >> Schiit Vali Tube Headphone Amp >> >> Sennheiser HD 380 Pro headphones >> >> or Klipsch G-17 Air Stereo speaker >> >> >> >> I put this together to be as compact as possible, I can hide the >> preamp and >> >> headphone amp underneath the turntable. And the Klipsch speaker sounds >> great >> >> for how small it is. But for vinyl I usually use the headphones. >> >> >> >> I also have an iPhone on which I listen to 320 mp3s on Nocs earbuds >> that I >> >> got from Bleep.com, while riding my bike or working. >> >> >> >> Quit CDs around 2005. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Apr 27, 2015, at 5:00 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> there is another lesson here which is always use really good locks to >> lock >> >> up your stored shit >> >> >> >> >> >> Clint Anderson >> >> Systems Engineer >> >> >> >>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:58 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> i'll take your word for it, you have a good ear ;) >> >>> i had two 1400s just for my own listening but they got ripped off >> long ago >> >>> so i replaced them with the lp60 which had good reviews for a sub-$300 >> >>> turntable >> >>> audio technica also makes an lp120 which is a weird clone of the >> sl1200, >> >>> your guess as to what quality it is, it seems to cheap to be that >> great but >> >>> at the same time has solid reviews. >> >>> i just listen to one record at a time now, but i wish i had things >> like a >> >>> replacable cartridge, or adjustable weight, pitch control >> >>> at the time it didnt seem worth $100-150 >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Clint Anderson >> >>> Systems Engineer >> >>> >> >>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:51 PM, kent williams < >> chaircrusher@gmail.com> >> >>> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> A 1210 has a fixed motor, which has 2 parts: A Brushless DC Stator is >> >>>> fixed to the base (AKA the plinth) and the Rotor is actually >> embedded in the >> >>>> platter. It works (as all electric motors do) by electromagnets >> >>>> repelling/attracting magnets to produce motion. There's some ripple >> built >> >>>> into the process because the electromagnets in the stator switch >> magnetic >> >>>> polaritys to push/pull the magnets in the rotor(platter). This can >> be >> >>>> damped by adding mass to the rotor, and the SL1200 does this, but the >> >>>> platter is relatively light so it isn't perfect. >> >>>> >> >>>> All the complaints from audiophiles like this mention 'coloration of >> >>>> treble' and collapse of their much-loved 'soundstage' -- a properly >> >>>> maintained SL1200 has very little ripple or vibration that's >> audible. In >> >>>> other words, audiophiles complain about things they may actually >> just be >> >>>> imaginating to justify spending thousands on fancier turntable. >> >>>> >> >>>> As for the bearing -- which is in the center of the platter -- I've >> never >> >>>> heard of anyone replacing them. It is a part that audiophiles do >> have fancy >> >>>> replacements for, on the theory that if it has less frictional >> resistance it >> >>>> will sound better. Dunno about that either. >> >>>> >> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:34 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> that too >> >>>>> motor wears the screw/screw wears the motor >> >>>>> if kent says it hasnt made a difference in 20 years i guess ill >> assume >> >>>>> maybe it only applies to shitty non-technics direct drives :) >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Clint Anderson >> >>>>> Systems Engineer >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:24 PM, kawayama <kawayama@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> I thought it was the vibrations from the motor, which could >> conceivably >> >>>>>> be heard through the pick-up, that was the problem with direct >> drives? >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> -- >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> constant shallowness leads to evil. >> >> >> >> >> > >