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From:
Clint Anderson
To:
Charles Byers-Brown
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Esa Ruoho , CRAIG SIMPSON , Richard James , Laurent Knauth , Eric Fairbanks , kent williams , idm list
Date:
Thu, 26 Mar 2015 18:15:57 -0500
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Re: New Squarepusher track
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yes i also like the melody to the cure's "it's friday im in love" very catchy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GpBiTjmIpQ squarepusher/zmachiines - dissolver Clint Anderson Systems Engineer On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 5:58 PM, Charles Byers-Brown <c.byersbrown@gmail.com
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quoted 183 lines You all secretly like it ;)> You all secretly like it ;) > > On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 10:36 PM, Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I'll say this though, I listened to the track three times in the last >> week or so, and today, for no reason whatsoever, the melody got stuck in my >> hed. >> i didn't like it, but what can i do. >> >> On 26 March 2015 at 23:55, CRAIG SIMPSON <craignorms@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Yer havin a laugh mate. Its absolute muck. But because he's Squarepusher >>> he can get away with it. >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 11:33:13 -0400 >>> Subject: Re: New Squarepusher track >>> From: madvlad00@gmail.com >>> To: laurent.knauth@gmail.com >>> CC: clinta@gmail.com; eric.p.fairbanks@gmail.com; chaircrusher@gmail.com; >>> idm@hyperreal.org >>> >>> >>> What's wrong with you all? This track is proper ace. >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 8:26 AM, Laurent Knauth < >>> laurent.knauth@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Back in the Protracker days, i once recorded the Amiga channels onto >>> cassette and resampled the track this way. >>> >>> Quite blurry, RAM-hog (4 bars) and slightly unsync'ed. >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 12:16 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> heh in the .mod days ppl would use mod2wav to make patterns from their >>> .mod files into wav files, the idea being that since you only had 4 tracks >>> if you could write a 4 track beat and mix it down to 1 wav file you could >>> free up 3 channels >>> </mod-nerd> >>> >>> >>> Clint Anderson >>> Systems Engineer >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 6:10 PM, Eric Fairbanks < >>> eric.p.fairbanks@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Oh man, those stutter-rolls. That's friggin' impressive. They sound so >>> smooth, and the volume envelopes are perfect. >>> >>> Must've taken a hellovalot of time. :P >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 6:05 PM kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> This track was made entirely in Sound Forge >>> http://www.cornwarning.com/chaircrusher/SoFarSoSo/02%20Morton%27s%20Shadow.mp3 >>> >>> This was from this album >>> http://music.cornwarning.com/2009/01/31/so-far-so-so-retrospective-1995-2005/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 5:02 PM kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Before Acid Pro, I did a whole bunch of tracks in Sound Forge. I'd >>> figure out the number of samples in a 4-beat measures, create that much >>> silence, and turn on the selection grid in Sound Forge so I could see where >>> the beats were, and paste/mix samples in. Once I had some basic patterns >>> and sounds, I'd make copies and fuck them up, and string them out and >>> paste-mix other loops into the master mix. >>> >>> I'm really comfortable working directly with waveforms. It's a lot >>> easier these days with other tools, but I liked that method better than the >>> other options of the time, which were trackers. >>> >>> Though I did do trackers to generate loops that I'd arrange in Acid. >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 4:16 PM Eric Fairbanks < >>> eric.p.fairbanks@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Ah man, Acid Pro. That's exactly what I was picturing. I've heard of >>> musicians who work like that, but it sounds like a nightmare. Might as well >>> compose music in a video editor at that point IMO. >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 5:09 PM kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I did it kind of as a dare for myself. I was working in Acid Pro, and I >>> cut the break into chunks, and then looped a bar or two bars, and >>> copy/paste bits into the loop until it feels full. Then move on to the >>> next measure. >>> >>> It wasn't hard, but it made me hate those particular sounds by the time >>> I was done. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 3:44 PM Eric Fairbanks < >>> eric.p.fairbanks@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Kent, that's nuts. I can't imagine working with sampled breaks in an >>> audio editor. (well, I suppose I can, but it sounds like a serious >>> headache) My recent jam has been writing LUA scripts that >>> generate/transform patterns in Renoise that re-arrange cut up breakbeats. >>> Editing and manipulating breaks and sequences in a tracker at 180+ BPM >>> 8/16LPB is work enough. Cutting up breaks in an audio editor represents a >>> level of long-term focus and dedication that I'm unfamiliar with. >>> >>> Totally hypothetical, but if Jenkinson handed me a spec for some >>> beatmangling software, I'd happily implement it in return for some spastic >>> Squarepusher-brand breakcore. >.> >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 4:24 PM kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I'm not sure I'd call it piss-weak. Not sure if I like it yet, but I >>> enjoy the melodic content. It sounds like he's using the Eventide effects >>> rack as a synthesizer again -- that buzzy foreground sound, which comes >>> from playing bass through it. >>> >>> Closest contemporary comparison is the PC Music stuff, which is >>> manically shiny in a similar way. >>> >>> You can't fault him for trying to do something that sounds different. >>> >>> As regards the Amen break, I did a track years ago that involved loading >>> the Amen break as a sample, and then cutting and arranging it so every bar >>> was different, across 5 minutes. As you can imagine this amounted to about >>> 8 hours of painstaking zoomed-in editing. >>> >>> Ever since doing that, I'm allergic to the Amen. I don't mind if people >>> use it in their tracks, but if I load it a sampler and start messing with >>> it, I start feeling sad and wishing it would go away. >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 7:21 AM CRAIG SIMPSON <craignorms@hotmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> This is pis* weak. Hes making music that sounds like its all been >>> sampled from an arcade or funfair. Hes given up on the amen break. It's a >>> tragedy. >>> >>> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 22:06:04 -0700 >>> From: gwrenchxx@sbcglobal.net >>> To: idm@hyperreal.org >>> Subject: Fwd: Re: Jlin album out. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --Forwarded Message Attachment-- >>> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 21:58:47 -0700 >>> From: gwrenchxx@sbcglobal.net >>> To: 313@hyperreal.org >>> Subject: Re: Jlin album out. >>> >>> I've had to review a 12" or two for the radio station where I DJ, and >>> I've never heard anything that appealed to me in the least. >>> >>> kent williams wrote: >>> > I'm surprised footwork/juke hasn't been a bigger thing on the IDM >>> > list. This new record on Planet Mu is revelatory. >>> > >>> > http://www.planet.mu/discography/ZIQ356 >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> --- >> http://twitter.com/esaruoho >> http://lackluster.bandcamp.com >> > >