Re: (idm) oh, fresh, what would we do without you? (bj*rk)
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quoted 4 lines If you need Bjork to tell you what artists to listen to, well what can I> If you need Bjork to tell you what artists to listen to, well what can I
> say? Maybe you should start paying more attention to the list, we talk
> about loads of good music and interesting artists daily...long before
> bjork ever gets round to them - believe.
thats retarded.
i dont need this list or bjork or anybody to tell me what to listen to, i
just go to the record store and listen. hey, we remember you from your
first days in the list, back when you were always asking everybody what
everything sounded like. wasnt that the way you got into it?
what i meant was, to a lot of people, it is their way of getting closer to
idm through bjork's more accessible music
you seem to think that idm is the final word in sophistication. i dont
think that going from listening to say, indie rock to electronic is really
an evolution. now thats your philosophy? --- its got machines, therefore
its less primitive?
sure i lack 2 or 3 of your years, but thanks to good guidance from my main
record-provider and an actual interest in the music (regardless of how
obscure it is, seemingly your top criteria), i have accumulated a good base
of knowledge (and i am honestly not attacking you here --- i know youre on
top of things and you know what? its not even important)
quoted 9 lines a lot of people>
> > a lot of people
> > got led into idm by listening to björk, and shes probably what made YOU
> > develop a more 'exotic' taste.
>
> hehe. Are you having a hard time realizing we don't all share your idm
> experience? Just because you needed a bjork record to get you into plaid
> doesn't mean everyone else did.
>
listen--- just because youre probably the most idm-oriented kid in the
wilds of orange county doesnt mean that on a global scale you rule the
subject... my history teacher probably knows about rephlex, so dont be so
full of yourself --- its not the toughest shit to dig out. why is it that
your posts and your webpages revolve around four or five tightly connected
(ie buddy-buddies) acts/labels? wait--- did liking aphex get you into
rephlex therefore squarepusher all the way down to spymania? aphex and
bjork are both on the same us label, the both make as much money and both
collaborate with tons of people. sure, hes less famous, but by that hes not
hard to find for starting kids like you and i were.
im not defending bjork at all--- im just saying shes been helpful cause she
got the capital and the taste. now that doesnt make her a more talented
person --- but shes a good tool for all those artistes whove willingly
collaborated with her, don't you think? shes like free air time on mtv.
quoted 4 lines oh urgently we will... what are you? the saviour of idm?> >oh urgently we will... what are you? the saviour of idm?
>
> Yes, that's exactly what I am. Please worship me.
>
that super eloquent --- better luck next time. but really, if i didnt read
your every action on this list, id be so lost id probably still only know
about the sugarcubes.
quoted 2 lines its not like> > its not like
> > bjork's destroying your precious genre or anything, she's publicising
it.
quoted 3 lines thanks but no thanks. one man's publicising is another man's...oh never>
> thanks but no thanks. one man's publicising is another man's...oh never
> mind, let's not start this again.
which idm-related act would you rather see go top 40? bjork or the prodigy?
ideally, i would say i want jenkinson to get there, but it wont happen.
now--- what if bjork said she really liked (insert your favorite star) in
an interview, and one of her fans just picked up on that and checked it out
at the store? that'd be the start of a great 'idm-experience', wouldnt it?
it takes people like bjork and stereolab and portishead to be the liaison
between the two worlds... its as simple as that cause warp just dont shit
out free samplers to every doorstep in the western world.
quoted 4 lines i>
> > i
> > think how she chooses to work is not as evil as all those annoying
> > half-assed side projects that just use their notoriety like mike&rich
and
quoted 3 lines stuff.> > stuff.
>
> ya think? Oh well.
now you gotta think harder than that... for starters, you couldve at least
called me ugly or something.
quoted 2 lines and yeah, how are we supposed to deal with the ultra-generic>
> > and yeah, how are we supposed to deal with the ultra-generic
transformers
quoted 8 lines and stolen anime from the rephlex page, and all the stolen british> > and stolen anime from the rephlex page, and all the stolen british
> > expressions in your vocabulary? those are authorship issues too...
>
> I love it :) Taking what is a friendly discussion about music down to
> the level of personal attacks is always appreciated. Keep up the good
> work. Anyhow, you try talking to english geezers all day in email and
> see if you don't start talking like them, mate.
>
thats good
maybe you should stop networking, get out in the fresh air, build a circle
of human, local friends you can share you little 'idm experience' with, go
down to the record store and monopolise the listening booth for 6 hours ---
im serious. just cause youre famous on the internet doesnt theres anything
beyond that. when was the last time the idm list had any influence on the
government, the environmental problems, crime rates, the economy, nature?
im sure the internet is not the only place were you can be appreciated. get
out of your little idm/cyber-dimension please. now sorry about the personal
interlude... it was about your snobby attitude towards music. now lets go
back to our friendly discussion.
jif