Written by (Greg Eden)
quoted 7 lines Subject: Re: (idm) underground v mainstream
>Subject: Re: (idm) underground v mainstream
>On Thu, 06 Feb 1997 12:49:53 -0800, 4th World wrote:
>>the chemical brothers , orbital - pop music, get a grip
>>so any artist who gets into the charts could be designated as
>>pop music because they are *popular*, irrespective of their generic
>>style of music, what about all the early warp acts like LFO that got
>>in the charts - are they 'pop music'quoted 2 lines eh? charts have nothing to do with it pop music isn't just popular
>eh? charts have nothing to do with it pop music isn't just popular
>music. and it isn't all bad.
well - what are they to do with then? , charts are just a statistical
representation of record sales , you said pop = popular music ,
therefore by the same maxim - if it's in the charts it must be pop music -
because it is popular, make yer mind up
quoted 5 lines warp have released a few records that
>warp have released a few records that
>could be termed pop(ish, anyway) in the past, LFO - LFO in it own way
>was quite pop, the vocal mix on N.O.W: Stars is quite pop, Jimi Tenor
>Outta Space, Kid Unknown nightmare walking, Sabres Wilmot, they are
>all moderately pop with vocal and melody hooks.
yer talking nads now, i didnt see lfo as a pop track when
it came out , steve wright on radio one proclaimed it as the
'worst record ever released' and what as he playing - yes pop,
its funny to see warp touting itself as releasing 'pop' product,
ken downie was right about you guys
quoted 1 line are you telling me that that chem bros setting sun thing wasn't pop?
>are you telling me that that chem bros setting sun thing wasn't pop?
nah - it was shit
quoted 6 lines orbital (see also the chem bros) are sacharin sweet and hence
>orbital (see also the chem bros) are sacharin sweet and hence
>palatable for most, relatively non-repetative, melodies etc etc. they
>are perfect pop 'techno' which is whey they are so successful,
>students who want to get into 'the underground' or be a bit different
>whatever - it's always orbital. different but not too different. it's
>nice' music.
so when the chemical brothers et al started off they were pop , or
when did they become pop? , when they statred selling records? and students
don't have the capacity to understand 'difficult' music?
quoted 4 lines R-Tyme despite the fact it is just about the best piece of music ever
>R-Tyme despite the fact it is just about the best piece of music ever
>made (not that derrick had much to do with it hehe or much of anything
>by the sounds of it) is not pop nor is ever likely to be, neither is
>No UFOS, strings of life, my machines, etc etc.
which r-tyme track? , as i have said before - *one* derrick may track
'strings of life' has changed and affected more people than the
entire warp back catalog ever will
quoted 4 lines heh I might as well go the whole hog and say that women (generally
>heh I might as well go the whole hog and say that women (generally
>Helen :) would buy orbital (and chem bros(?)) but wouldn't ever buy a
>red planet 12". which also accounts for their sales. the detroit crew
>cut out 50% of the population...
that is utter fucking drivel - your cracking us up here mate, the 'detroit crew' don't
make music for any particular 'market', that is the differance between them and you lot,
if red planet singles were marketed with chain with no name deals , glossy covers and
sold at 1.99 in our price i think you find it would be a different story.....
they don't need wacky personalities and marketing campaigns to sell their music, why
dont warp stick their neck out and sign someone like low res, kim rapatti, andres
remmer..... someone making a difference
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