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From:
Nick Worthington
To:
Aimee Merritt
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Date:
Tue, 14 Jan 1997 04:05:07 -0500 (EST)
Subject:
Re: (idm) more commands while wearing gloves -Reply
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On Mon, 13 Jan 1997, Aimee Merritt wrote: ]It's this kind of condescending bullshit that causes most of the females Um...I wasn't condescending. You seem awfully defensive here...sure you don't have something to prove? ]on the list to lurk rather than post. Guess what? We don't need the male ]members of the species to turn us on to "intense, convoluted" things. ]We are all quite capable of discovering music on our own. In fact, I I didn't say that women couldn't understand the music, I was attempting to explain the (alleged) lack of women on the list by saying that the nature of the music generally appeals more to men -- the way it sounds has traditionally drawn a male-dominated audience. Think of the concept this way: How many men do you know that are Barry Manilow fans? Michael Bolton fans? ]would say that I have managed to convert quite a large number of males ]to this music that, according to some, is so convoluted that I can't quite ]understand it. Thank you for so kindly putting words in my mouth. I never said women couldn't understand idm. I pointed out a parallel in the fact that men are more likely to know the innards of a car, NOT because they are smarter, but because that is a norm in our society. Women are just as capable as men at fixing cars, they are just not as inclined to do so. ]It is also completely erroneous to assume that all we like is the "gentle" ]stuff like SAW 2 and, as is implied below, that we only like it because ]some guy turned us on to it. Why would anyone assume that? I was merely reporting back the statistics that I had observed during the course of my interest in idm. I made no statement implying that the girls I know who like idm listen exclusively to "gentle" idm. You've conjured up this crap, making it out like I'm on some kind of crusade to prove the superiority of the male gender, when in fact the minds of both genders are equally evolved amd equally potentious. ]said, "Wow! Your boyfriend sure has a lot of records/cds." Perhaps ]what we should be examining is what exactly makes men think that ]females are incapable of having their own tastes and interests? Perhaps you should examine why you're ready to lynch me and my entire extended family when I make no statements defamatory of the female gender. About: ]Still, I've turned a couple ex-girlfriends of mine on to Aphex, Autechre ]and such...and I do not exaggerate when I say that almost *every* girl ]I've ever played one of Aphex's "Selected Ambient Works" discs for has ]loved it. - this has just been my experience so far. I haven't ever met a girl who's turned me on to new music. Probably at some point in my life it'll happen. Right now, I'm merely one human being telling it like it is. .------------------------------------------------------------------------. | nm: nickworthington | ml: nworth1@umbc.edu | "Gott wuerfelt nicht!" ae | |------------------------------------------------------------------------| | http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~nworth1 | [.sig_gn] @ 17:00:00 EST on 12.21.96 | `------------------------------------------------------------------------'