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From:
Hary J Walsh
To:
Alex Reynolds
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Date:
Thu, 09 Jan 1997 14:55:33 +0000
Subject:
Re: (idm) regarding orbital and idm in general
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I think that what people are saying to you is that they *respect* your opinion, but they beleive it to be wrong. It has also been pointed out that Orbital *do* deserve the awards we bestowed upon them for *the only* reason that needs consideration. Which is that these awards were bestowed upon them by a vote by the list.
quoted 4 lines 2) An opinion is an opinion. Thought I made this quite clear, but it seems> 2) An opinion is an opinion. Thought I made this quite clear, but it seems > that folks sometimes need reminding. Facts are facts, however, and that > 'In Sides' is different in its commercial aspects should be obvious to > anyone paying attention. Again, draw your own conclusions.
Surely music ( as with all art ) should stand on it's own merits. Why do you need to consider a piece of arts 'commercial aspects' at all? Are you afraid to feel to ordinary by admiring something that is popular? The general public is capable of getting things right from time to time. Take 'Pulp Fiction' as a case in point. I think this is an amazing movie. Far from the best I have seen, and far from the most expressive and philosophically explorive I have seen. I'm sure someone on the 'Intelligent Movie' List has been complaining about how pulp fiction is total drivel. Using arguments like 'look how popular it is, how can it have artistic credibility'. Fuck that shit. I enjoyed the film. And I love 'In Sides'. I would rate Sniv and the Brown album above it, but I still think it is an excellent album, and altough I personally didn't get to vote on the final phase ( being on holidays n stuff ) I probably would have voted for Dead Cities....
quoted 8 lines To start even more shit, and perhaps a more interesting thread:> > To start even more shit, and perhaps a more interesting thread: > > Notice that most of the IDM artists and their fans are white males with a > tonne of disposable income? Is this merely coincidence? Should this be > more than mere chance, why is this so? Why, in fact, did this list earn > the name '*intelligent* dance music,' as opposed to any other name? Does > this moniker have a racial basis?
I rarely find myself considering such matters. IDM fans like IDM. This already is too much over classification for my liking. I've always hated the label IDM. If you read the faq you'll see why it was chosen, but I am personally for changing the list name to 'Experimental Electronic Music' or 'Autechre are God'.... - Hary J Walsh It is not because things are difficult that we do not dare; it is because we do not dare that they are difficult. -Seneca