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From:
Che
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robert anthony conder ,
Date:
Thu, 5 Dec 1996 14:51:27 +0000 ()
Subject:
Re: (idm) SURVEY ON RAVE CULTURE...PLEASE RESPOND!
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DELETE NOW IF YOU'RE A HUMORLESS BASTARD, THANK YOU.
quoted 6 lines SURVEY QUESTIONS:> SURVEY QUESTIONS: > > 1. The words "rave" and "raver" carry with them a pre-constructed > stigma, can you suggest a non-stigmatized term to describe what would > normally be labled a "raver" or "rave party"? Some examples include > "underground dance music community" or "electronic dance music culture."
raver -> fuckwit rave -> fuckwit gathering
quoted 1 line 2. Do you go to raves?> 2. Do you go to raves?
Only when dragged in chains tied to the bumper of a Honda.
quoted 1 line What are the most important aspects of a party to you?> What are the most important aspects of a party to you?
Seeing scantily clad teenage girls.
quoted 1 line 3. What motivated you be become involved with dance music/rave culture?> 3. What motivated you be become involved with dance music/rave culture?
Lack of guitars.
quoted 2 lines 4. What are your views of P.L.U.R. (peace, love, unity, respect)> 4. What are your views of P.L.U.R. (peace, love, unity, respect) > ideology?
They'd be great if only people weren't people.
quoted 1 line Does a unifying "rave ideology" exist?> Does a unifying "rave ideology" exist?
Get tossed, get sorted.
quoted 1 line Could such an ideology exist?>Could such an ideology exist?
You tell me.
quoted 1 line 5. What does a VIBE consist of?> 5. What does a VIBE consist of?
A collection of tuned metal keys on isolating rubber supports.
quoted 1 line Who creates the VIBE?> Who creates the VIBE?
The vibraphone manufacturer, of course.
quoted 2 lines Do you beleive> Do you beleive > there are metaphysical aspects involved in the existance of a VIBE?
Only when I'm stoned and listening to old jazz rekkids looking for trip hop samples.
quoted 3 lines 6. People within the rave community are often eager to critisize their> 6. People within the rave community are often eager to critisize their > own culture. What are some POSITIVE developments you see happening > within rave counterculture?
No guitars.
quoted 1 line How are these developments being promoted?> How are these developments being promoted?
Bludgeoning guitar players with turntables and drum machines.
quoted 1 line 7. What are some negative developments you see within the culture?> 7. What are some negative developments you see within the culture?
The Chemical Brothers.
quoted 2 lines What are> What are > the forces behind these developments?
Money and the ever-popular lure of extracting it from the lowest common denominator.
quoted 2 lines 8. Has there ever been a point where you considered no longer going to> 8. Has there ever been a point where you considered no longer going to > parties? What were the motivating factors behind this consideration?
Yes. Too much bad house music. Oops, sorry, guess I'm being redundant.
quoted 2 lines 9. Do you think that the rave community is portrayed fairly by the> 9. Do you think that the rave community is portrayed fairly by the > mainstream media?
Yes. Everyone knows that raves corrupt our gentle youth with drugs and loud dance music. They'd be so much better off drinking and listening to rock n roll like we used to do. :)
quoted 1 line What can be done to promote a more accurate portrayal?>What can be done to promote a more accurate portrayal?
Give John Tesh about an ounce of shrooms and convince him to do his next album with the Aphex Twin.
quoted 2 lines 10. What do you see in the future for the rave community and> 10. What do you see in the future for the rave community and > electronically produced dance music?
World domination.
quoted 3 lines 11. Do you feel that in the future we will be exposed to a popular> 11. Do you feel that in the future we will be exposed to a popular > explosion of e.p.d.m. (electronicly produced dance music) comprible to > what happened to "grunge"?
No - no guitars, no faces, no fashion - nothing to market.
quoted 1 line What reprocussions would something like this have?> What reprocussions would something like this have?
Kids' spelling would get worse.
quoted 2 lines 12. Do you think e.p.d.m. is undervalued by mainstream society? Within rave> 12. Do you think e.p.d.m. is undervalued by mainstream society? Within rave > culture?
Who cares what other people like? I know what I like.
quoted 3 lines 13. Did you have an intrest in or an appriciation for e.p.d.m. before> 13. Did you have an intrest in or an appriciation for e.p.d.m. before > you started going to parties, or did you aquire an intrest in the music > after you began attending raves?
Before, of course.
quoted 1 line 14. What type of music do you currently prefer?> 14. What type of music do you currently prefer?
Drum N Bass & FlipFlop.
quoted 1 line What types have you liked in the past?> What types have you liked in the past?
IDM, Ambient, Techno, Detroit Techno, HipHop, Acied, Electro, New Romantics, Jazz, Classical, New Wave, ProgRock, Rock, John Denver.
quoted 1 line What led you to change your tastes?> What led you to change your tastes?
I change every morning when I wake up. Why don't you try to figure out why some people's tastes don't change? That's the real mystery.
quoted 2 lines 15. What happens to you/ what goes through your mind when you are> 15. What happens to you/ what goes through your mind when you are > dancing at a rave?
Nothing.
quoted 2 lines What part of the music or your surroundings do you>What part of the music or your surroundings do you > concentrate on when you are dancing?
Concentrate?
quoted 2 lines What effects to the lights at raves have>What effects to the lights at raves have > on your interpritation of the music?
Lights?
quoted 1 line 16. What is the right way to dance?> 16. What is the right way to dance?
First you have to feel the music in your pelvis.
quoted 1 line 17. Do you listen to the radio?> 17. Do you listen to the radio?
Hell no.
quoted 3 lines What stations/shows? Do you ever> What stations/shows? Do you ever > listen to public radio? Do you listen to internet broadcasts? Do you > listen to DJ mix tapes or individual artists' albums more often?
I buy lots of records - somebody has to.
quoted 2 lines 18. Have you ever thrown a party? What were some of your goals for the> 18. Have you ever thrown a party? What were some of your goals for the > party?
Yeah. Get tossed, get sorted.
quoted 1 line What did you hope to accomplish by throwing it?>What did you hope to accomplish by throwing it?
I got tossed, got sorted.
quoted 1 line 19. Are you a DJ?> 19. Are you a DJ?
Hell no.
quoted 1 line 20. Do you feel DJing is an artform?> 20. Do you feel DJing is an artform?
In that like most art, 99.99% of the "artists" are talentless refugees from the real world, yes. That doesn't detract from the artfulness of the other .01% who are artists, though.
quoted 1 line Peace, Love, Unity, and Respect to all...from Zurn Aquaflush.> Peace, Love, Unity, and Respect to all...from Zurn Aquaflush.
War, Hate, Disunity and Disrespect to THE MAN...from Che