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From:
Miles Egan
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Date:
Sat, 29 Jun 1996 23:56:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject:
Re: (idm) the M is for Mills
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On Sat, 29 Jun 1996, James B Gill wrote:
quoted 2 lines I loved this last part; "anti-human music." Brilliant. A new genre -> I loved this last part; "anti-human music." Brilliant. A new genre - > something like mills (hard techno) and cylob's industrial folk songs.
It's hardly a new genre. Go directly to Merzbow and follow the thread back from there. You can hop over to grindcore if you'd like something a bit more rhythmic.
quoted 12 lines I'm sure I could come up> > I'm sure I could come up > > with a simple computer algorithm that could churn out disks at > > interesting as the Liquid room mix all day long. > > > You see, you didn't pay attention to my last response. It's impossible > for any dj (if there are any better than mills, I don't know) to produce > a mix better than this on cd. It's LIVE; no re-editing in the studio, no > mix and if you fuck up, you re-do it; it's fucking live! If you went to > the liquid room that night, that's what you'd see, along with punters > massive stompin' it out all night long. A single "computer algorithm" > can't churn out the heart/soul of this dj who spins the best in > "Anti-Human Music."(makes sense, eh)
I'm sure it would be extremely difficult to program a computer to mix records like this. It wouldn't be hard at all to teach one to beat an 808 like that and drop abstract analogue farts and squiggles. The product is the same. Buildups and tempo would just be entries in the parameter file. You could toss a few fractal kinks in the program too keep if from sounding too linear.
quoted 4 lines what? Aren't we discussing dance music right now? Even if you don't> what? Aren't we discussing dance music right now? Even if you don't > like Mills, his sets are definitely dance music; that you cannot > dispute. People dance to this "idiotic pounding", because it's moving, > hard, and lovely "anti human music".
Amazingly enough, Mills' stuff is considered dance music by those challenged enough to enjoy twitching spastically to a bored drum machine for hours. It doesn't surprise me to learn that Mills grew up making industrial music. Most of the people floating on that boat much past the early 80's should have sunk with it. It's pretty hard to imagine anyone dancing to Spanners or Tri Repetae.