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From:
Mark Kolmar
To:
Moran
Cc:
Eylon Israeli , , ,
Date:
Fri, 24 Nov 1995 17:47:21 -0600 (CST)
Subject:
Re: (idm) IDM
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On Thu, 23 Nov 1995, Moran wrote:
quoted 4 lines A Tribe> > A Tribe > > Called Quest took a step backwards on their last release. > > Dead wrong my brother..
Please read on...
quoted 2 lines I think Tribe have done the Miles scene better> I think Tribe have done the Miles scene better > than anyone else.
I agree. Their first two albums are innovative and great. However, I thought that on _Midnight Marauders_ they traded in part of their sound for something more conventional and less distinctive.
quoted 2 lines I have not heard any> I have not heard any > body rip off tribe yet..
I guess you must have missed Digable Planets...
quoted 3 lines Dr. Dre and Snoop Doggy Dogg, sorry to say, are in business to sell> > Dr. Dre and Snoop Doggy Dogg, sorry to say, are in business to sell > > themselves to a wide (white) audience as some kind of gun-totin' > > bitch-slappin' n***as, which frankly insults my intelligence.
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quoted 5 lines As well, "gun totin niggas" is just what it is pegged within the context> As well, "gun totin niggas" is just what it is pegged within the context > of white discourse over music.. Words in one context are obviously > different in another.. Judging "gun tottin" must be judged in its own > context.. And unless I've been asleep for the last 15 yrs, rap has > definitely developed its own language..
To expand on what I said -- or was trying to say: What offends me about Dr. Dre, Snoop Doggy Dogg and post-Ice-Cube NWA, is that from what I can see they take the ignorant, pervasive stereotypes about African- Americans, turn them into a big cartoon and sell them back to white America. Face it--you don't get those kinds of sales figures unless you reach a market outside the hip-hop scene. _EFIL4ZAGGIN_, for example, is deeply offensive to me because it may -appear- that the sales reflect white America embracing black culture, but I think it actually reinforces prejudice and stereotypes. Dre may be making some money, and even making some decent music, but at what cost? On the other hand I see no such problem with Public Enemy, Cypress Hill and others who have reached a mass audience. --Mark Kolmar