on a side note there was a program on Chanel4 (uk) two days ago all about
burglars, thieves and other nasties and they used pretty much the whole of
Dead Cities by FSOL as the soundtrack. One woman talked about swallowing
diamonds.....
nice
----- Original Message -----
From: Guai Lo <jotai@mindspring.com>
To: wells <s0ewoliv@vcu.edu>; <idm@hyperreal.org>; Jeff Pitrman
<jeff@spof.net>
Sent: 22 January 2000 00:16
Subject: Re: (idm) Dude. Microsoft.
quoted 3 lines At this point, I'm getting tired of this whole thread. It's obvious that> At this point, I'm getting tired of this whole thread. It's obvious that
> people who don't care if their favorite musicians do TV commercials are
> going to continue to think that way, and interpret what they want from
what
quoted 2 lines I say. I hate advertising. In the first response to the thread that I> I say. I hate advertising. In the first response to the thread that I
> sent, I stated that I was coming from an anti-advertising viewpoint.
People
quoted 1 line that like commercials/ads, and people that work in the advertising> that like commercials/ads, and people that work in the advertising
industry
quoted 3 lines are obviously going to disagree with my view because it's coming from the> are obviously going to disagree with my view because it's coming from the
> direction of someone that already hates advertising and considers it evil
> and manipulative shit. Obviously somebody coming from the same direction
I
quoted 5 lines am, is going to have issues with a band that they like contributing to> am, is going to have issues with a band that they like contributing to
> advertising in the form of their music.
>
> I don't understand what you find silly about what I said, so maybe I just
> worded it poorly, or maybe you are one of those people that have
absolutely
quoted 1 line no problem with advertising. What I was trying to say, is that in the> no problem with advertising. What I was trying to say, is that in the
case
quoted 2 lines of an IDM artist in particular; jumping at the opportunity to slap down 30> of an IDM artist in particular; jumping at the opportunity to slap down 30
> seconds of one of your songs to pitch a product in hopes that mainstream
TV
quoted 3 lines audiences will like the song in any way, seems to me like just skipping> audiences will like the song in any way, seems to me like just skipping
> right over your devoted fans in search of greener pastures. I never said
> shit about 'underground vs mainstream'. I'd love it if IDM managed to
gain
quoted 1 line mainstream acceptance without becoming watered down. It would not only be> mainstream acceptance without becoming watered down. It would not only be
a
quoted 1 line really good indication that mainstream tastes are improving, but it would> really good indication that mainstream tastes are improving, but it would
be
quoted 1 line a hell of a lot easier for me to find some of the cds I want in local> a hell of a lot easier for me to find some of the cds I want in local
record
quoted 2 lines stores. TV commercials, in my opinion, are not going to be how IDM finds> stores. TV commercials, in my opinion, are not going to be how IDM finds
> mainstream acceptance. They are 30 seconds long, and they aren't about
the
quoted 2 lines music, they are about the product. All the music does is convince Joe> music, they are about the product. All the music does is convince Joe
> Lunchbox that Microsoft is really cutting edge and futuristic. That
bothers
quoted 2 lines me, and if it doesn't bother you, then obviously anything I say will seem> me, and if it doesn't bother you, then obviously anything I say will seem
> silly to you because we aren't, and will never be on the same page. This
is
quoted 12 lines the last thing I'm going to say on this topic for a long time.> the last thing I'm going to say on this topic for a long time.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wells <s0ewoliv@vcu.edu>
> To: Guai Lo <jotai@mindspring.com>; idm@hyperreal.org <idm@hyperreal.org>;
> Jeff Pitrman <jeff@spof.net>
> Date: Friday, January 21, 2000 4:09 PM
> Subject: RE: (idm) Dude. Microsoft.
>
>
> >Your claim really doesn't make a bit of sense. You equate selling a song
to
quoted 1 line a commercail with selling out one's fans. Please explain, because it> >a commercail with selling out one's fans. Please explain, because it
seems
quoted 17 lines to be a really silly idea.> >to be a really silly idea.
> >
> >- wells oliver / s0ewoliv@vcu.edu
> > [ "you be the lighthouse in the storm
> > and i'll be the ship filled with a thousand dead souls" ]
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Guai Lo [mailto:jotai@mindspring.com]
> >> Sent: Friday, January 21, 2000 4:42 PM
> >> To: idm@hyperreal.org; Jeff Pitrman
> >> Subject: Re: (idm) Dude. Microsoft.
> >>
> >> I look at it like this: Artist works his ass off to get signed, earns
> >> credibility within a fairly small, but devoted scene, then for whatever
> >> reason, decides to just turn his/her back on his/her fans by
> >> selling song to
> >> TV commercial so that millions of idiots will perceive a company of
being
quoted 22 lines futuristic, and never looking at instrumental electronic music> >> futuristic, and never looking at instrumental electronic music
> >> any other way
> >> partially BECAUSE they've come to associate it with futuristic TV ads.
> >>
> >>
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