quotes are from Q-Bot Eye's initial post....
quoted 2 lines Maybe the lack of live music (IDM) also has to do with this. Many>Maybe the lack of live music (IDM) also has to do with this. Many
>people are not content to just sit and listen to the music...
i don't want to complain about the mainstream's reluctance to embrace
instrumental music. instrumental music reduces the human element and
abstracts beauty, and therefore requires a greater feat of listening to be
appreciated. for this reason is the idea of the greater chill space a good
idea. i don't quarrel about commercial radio anymore, because i've come to
accept that what i love is music, and what radio is is pop stars and
anthems (although manifested through music, it is not their prime raison
d'être)...
quoted 4 lines I would have no problem going to a show of electronic music, where>I would have no problem going to a show of electronic music, where
>everyone >just sits in chairs (or couches maybe?) and appreciates the
>sounds, and that's
>it.
yes, yes, this sort of relaxed environment for discussion and careful
listening to music that is just a bit unfulfilling on ones home stereo. an
experience that is greater than the music alone. i always imagine, as
jorkens also mentioned quite appropriately, the scene of the jazz nightclub
: a large hazy room of small tables where people shift their attention from
a low stage to their tablemates, drinking/smoking/etc. in a modern
context, other drugs may be involved. it is my understanding that idm
began with the electronic chill music of patterson and like musicians in
the sitting rooms of raves, which are roughly like the above, but much less
elegant, and more of an escape than an event unto themselves. i wouldn't
know, i wasn't really there.
it goes without saying that the live music would have to involve more
'virtuosic skill' (although electronic music in its emphasis on timbre and
devaluation of melody is harder to concoct dynamically, as the composing
process tends to involve lengthy choices between tones, etc.), as chris
fahey said, than it currently does. more use of handmade electronic
instruments and non-algorithmic composition techniques would be in order.
any other ideas ? more record-rubbing ?
quoted 3 lines The PA [...] was in no way satisfactory as the sole sound source for sonicly>The PA [...] was in no way satisfactory as the sole sound source for sonicly
>complex music. I think they would have needed a relatively high end sound
>system to pull off their sounds.
--kurt
it is true. with all the technology available to us, it's ridiculous that
complex music such as idm is available only in stereo. if we look back to
early electronic music such as musique concrete or electro-accoustic (of
which idm is certainly a descendant), it was customary to have twelve or
more speakers, to ensure that each member of the audience (sitting
comfortably) received a different performance. a variety of speakers of
high quality are important to the music. rock still makes sense on a cheap
ghetto blaster. idm, snobby as it may sound, depends on fancy equipment.
quoted 1 line No light show, etc.>No light show, etc.
no, i think there should be some kind of visuals ! sorry if i'm a bit
obsessed with this stuff but i have recently been convinced that science's
primary use is psychedelics and sensory diversions. perhaps nothing like
what is seen at raves (crazy green lasers, fog machines), but some kind of
quiet and attractive displays, perhaps the classic projection screen
(FILM!) or digital lava lamps. okay, those don't exist yet. it would be
expensive, but it could be done. my glamorized notion of this environment
involves large amounts of technology to create a truly beautiful and--i am
pretentious, perhaps--modern environment.
.af.
ps; to people in sf who are interested in electro-accoustic, or in the idea
of sitting still and concentrating on sound, i recommend a very cool
experience called the 'audium'. i don't know how known or unknown it is.
in short, it involves sitting in a pitch-dark dome-shaped room and
concentrating on sounds swirling around the 140+ speakers set up inside the
walls. very cool.
email me for details.
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