i think most people would be in favor of helping the artist out.
i don't think it has as much to do with being 'underground' as most people
think.
to me, it's the fact that after hearing music associated with things that
i hate, like hearing the second track off squarepusher's selection sixteen
used for some mtv ad or stereolab being used by volkswagon, that
i can't escape the imagery of those commercial establishments and
it really ruins any spirituality the music might have had beforehand
when you are picturing little cars driving around in circles.
-sean
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Pitrman" <jeff@spof.net>
To: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: (idm) Dude. Microsoft.
quoted 5 lines At 06:16 PM 1/18/00 -0600, Guai Lo wrote:
> At 06:16 PM 1/18/00 -0600, Guai Lo wrote:
>
> >As to whether artists should be held accountable for letting fans down by
> >selling out, I say Hell Yes. I realize that IDM isn't exactly
> >anti-establishment protest music in nature, but I find it hard to
stomache
quoted 1 line that all these years I've just been listening to "The Future of
> >that all these years I've just been listening to "The Future of
Commercial
quoted 1 line Jingles". I kind of had other things in mind when I was seeking this
> >Jingles". I kind of had other things in mind when I was seeking this
stuff
quoted 4 lines out.
> >out.
>
> A large body of IDM that I hear is so head-in-ass in the culture of
> hipness and irony, that I can think of few more fitting fates for the
music
quoted 5 lines than an artist like v/vm being used in a commercial on TV. I think many
> than an artist like v/vm being used in a commercial on TV. I think many
> musicians would probably appreciate the irony of that.
> I fail to see how anything that causes interest in an artist is that bad.
> I mean, yes, I'm sure many of us have a lot of time and energy invested in
> being hip and underground thanks to electronic music, but I'll bet the
Orb,
quoted 21 lines etc. are enjoying having new fans who discovered them via some commercial.
> etc. are enjoying having new fans who discovered them via some commercial.
> They have more fans, more people appreciating their music, and they get a
> few more cents income from selling extra cds. How is this bad, other than
> robbing people of Punk Rock Points because their music is in a commercial
> now? If a musician works a day job, how is that any less of a selling-out
> to 'the Man' than liscensing a track?
>
> And yes, I know I shouldn't be contributing to this dumb thread. But it
> keeps coming up, so I have to throw in my ha'penny.
>
> ----
> "There is no gang of 'intelligent techno' freaks here who break
> showroom windows to steal pocket calculators." - Jouni Alkio
> Jeff Pitrman [cCM] jeff@spof.net http://bling.spof.net
>
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