--- Chris Fahey wrote: > This whole debate reminds me of the kind of> "so-and-so's a poseur" debates> my friends had in high school when alternative rock> started to make the pop> charts. It was stupid then and it's stupid now.First of all, I don't really care if something I like gets huge or underground. I'm not concerned about that in the slightest. My point was that if something is "SO MAINSTREAM" you would be seeing ALOT (and I stress ALOT) of drum n bassin crappy corporate record store (in shopping malls) all over America. I know most record stores should have Breakbeat Era and Roni Size Reprazent, or an occasional Metalheadz comp. I mean alot more than just a few titles.> > Are there huge drum n bass sections at> > Musicland now? I don't think so. Does the average> Joe> > even know what drum n bass is...not likely.> > The Virgin Records Megastore in NYC has at least two> rows of drum and bass,> and that's in addition to two rows of "Electronica"> and two more rows of "Dance Music". Yeah in NY. But if it's so mainstream it should be all over MTV and in the shops all over the US. > Maybe I spoke too soon about the rest> of America, but the> fact of the matter is that you can't say that the> *sound* of drum and bass> would surprise anyone in America anymore, even if> almost nobody can name any artists.Why not? You don't hear nasty bass or hard ass basslines on tv. And there is a huge different from hearing something on tv speakers versus a good sound system.Plus the commercials play light safe sounding stuff for less than 30 seconds. That's a big difference from hearing it pumping all night. > It's a mainstream sound, something everyone> is familiar with. I don't agree. So do you think you could just go in an ordinary club and play drum n bass to a crowd and everyone's going to dance because it's mainstream. Most people aren't ready for drum n bass, it's going to take quite a bit longer for it to get more popular.Hell I had to explain what drum n bass was to my station manager at my radio station. He's in his mid 20s, and has been at an underground station for many years. And he didn't even understand exactly what jungle was. And I'm sure he watched tv and has seen commercials too. > Yes, the scene may be smaller now after the big> bubble a few years ago, but> the *sound* itself is infiltrating other musical> forms, like a drop of red> ink in a glass of water: soon, all pop music will be> tinted with drum and> bass influences regardless of whether or not there's> a drum and bass section at the mall.I'm sure that drum n bass will be influential on many styles of music. You can already hear some of IDM and dnb's influences in hip hop. Most genres borrow ideas from others. I don't think you can call something mainstream if it isn't shifting massive units, and widely accepted by the masses. I don't think dnb is close to doing either.> House music may not be mainstream either, but Cher > and Madonna use the sound as if they knew full well > that the kids wouldn't be threatened by it.House is WAY WAY more mainstream than DNB is or has been. No comparison
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