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From:
Howard Berkey
To:
Michael King
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Date:
Thu, 29 Dec 1994 21:56:22 -0800 (PST)
Subject:
Re: your mail
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quoted 4 lines You need to go back and listen to "Always an Angel" (or whatever it is> > You need to go back and listen to "Always an Angel" (or whatever it is > actually called) again on _Twitch_. To not consider that a stellar example > of techno is to advertise ignorance.
I guess I'm ignorant; While "The Angel" is a great song, I don't know if I'd consider it a stellar example of "techno". It, "Crash and Burn", the 12" of "Over the Shoulder", and other songs off that album got a lot of play at underage dance clubs I went to in '84 (along with CV) but I guess I've always thought of them on the other side of the murky distinction between techno and industrial dance music.
quoted 2 lines I think you discount Ministry because> I think you discount Ministry because > of their later (mis)direction into noise/grunge.
When did I discount Ministry? I like ministry a hell of a lot more than, say, almost all ambient music. I merely said that the inclusion of Twitch or an album like Code would explain some of their other choices. It would be nearly impossible for me to pick out the "Best 50" techno albums, and I'm interested in the slant they took in looking at albums. Don't get me wrong, Twitch is one of my favorite albums of all time.
quoted 3 lines However, I don't find it all that unreasonable that _Twitch_ would show up> However, I don't find it all that unreasonable that _Twitch_ would show up > on a "techno" list, especially since Ministry is so much more well known > to the masses (washed and unwashed) than say Jam & Spoon or FSOL (looking
Definantly true.
quoted 3 lines at albums sold). Also, I don't find it all that unusual that Micro-Phonies> at albums sold). Also, I don't find it all that unusual that Micro-Phonies > appears on the list, either. What else from 1984 would you rank deserving of > a fairly high placement on an "all-time" list?
Interesting question. New Order's "Power, Corruption and Lies" came out around then... for a long time Blue Monday was the best selling 12" single in the world. It definantly changed dance music. (I believe Blue Monday came out on single in '83 though). Also, remember I was surprised that Micro-Phonies was #9. Of course the order was meaningless, so it isn't nearly as large a surprise.
quoted 5 lines BTW, how did Art Of Noise fare on the list? How does the list shake out in> > BTW, how did Art Of Noise fare on the list? How does the list shake out in > terms of "trendiness" vs. "mainstays". I wonder how much of the "all time" > list didn't exist before 3 years ago (1990). Separates the visionaries from > the "MTV buzz clip" artists, I think.
True. I would hope Art of Noise would be fairly high on the list. And if Kraftwerk isn't represented the list is imho bogus :-) (and... DEVO?) -H-