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From:
William Samuels
To:
'IDM \(E-mail\)'
Date:
Tue, 18 Jan 2000 14:40:41 -0800 (PST)
Subject:
Re: (idm) Dude. Microsoft.
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--- John Thelin <teaflax@erols.com> wrote:
quoted 5 lines Luckabaugh, Steve wrote:> Luckabaugh, Steve wrote: > > >> * Has it occurred to you that drum and bass is a > totally > >> mainstream musical form right now
And why is that? Because you hear it in a commercial...I hear techno in commercials...The Orb in commercials...Wait isn't Orb ...IDM OH IDM must be mainstream...huh? Is that the rational? Are there huge drum n bass sections at Musicland now? I don't think so. Does the average Joe even know what drum n bass is...not likely. I don't believe drum n bass has shared mainstream success. Ez Rollers had a tune that hit high in the charts in the UK (due to a movie) and of course there is Roni Size. But that's about it.
quoted 7 lines In the UK, yes, maybe but in american NO! I don't> > In the UK, yes, maybe but in american NO! I don't > hear it ANYWHERE on the > > radio (meaning normal big commercial radio not > college radio) so it's not > > *mainstream*. I don't see a Plug CD or a Wagon > Christ CD next to Rickie > > Martin in stores.
Yeah, where's the Grooverider CD? Since he is a big name, each store must have just tons. Right? :)
quoted 1 line America is a musical wasteland.> America is a musical wasteland.
For the most part, but there are alot of underground pockets of good music all over.
quoted 10 lines * Has it occurred to you that many drum and bass> >> * Has it occurred to you that many drum and bass > musicians > >> make most of their living off of selling their > music to advertisers? > > > > Really? Most d'nb musicians? why are there so > few adds featuring it if > > it's so widely sold? This doesn't make sense. > Where do you get your > > information?
Yeah NAME some producers, a least one notable one. I think there are alot of people that just put together tracks for commercials. A friend of mine that makes commercials has someone make the music he needs for commercials. Apparently, all he needs is to give the guy an example of what he wants and the guy can mimic it. And let's say a dnb producer did make a tune, what then? Does that mean he is lesser in anyway? I don't think your facts are straight.
quoted 11 lines Again, I think that's a UK thing - but even here in> Again, I think that's a UK thing - but even here in > the US, I think I hear > four to five D'n'b or IDM-style background tunes per > hour. Not all of it > particularly good, but most of it better than just > reusing or redoing Top 40 > material and all of it far more interesting than > anything heard on the > radio. I'll try to keep score during prime time > tonight by keeping the TV on > while I work.
I would rather hear electronic stuff even if it's not good, then hear classic rock or top 40. Actually KROQ in LA uses IDM or danceable electronic for their commercials. They play nothing but crappy rock, but if they want to talk over something you can hear them use Aphex Twin and Meat Beat Manifesto. I guess they feel the music is good for something...talking over. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org