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2025-08-24 10:56Rjyan Kidwellanybody present ever get into Phthalocyanine? His cd-r label Phthalo preceding the Planet

From:: Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com>
To:: idm list <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Sun, 24 Aug 2025 06:56:20 -0400
Subject:: Phthalo

anybody present ever get into Phthalocyanine? His cd-r label Phthalo preceding the Planet Mu releases had a massive impact on me in 1998/99. Felt like as big a deal as Schematic and Chocolate Industries (as far as USA IDM) around that time, most of the artists he put out early on in their careers are titans now-- James Kirby/Caretaker, Dntel, Vladislav Delay just for starters-- check out that discogs <https://www.discogs.com/artist/500-Phthalocyanine?srsltid=AfmBOoqMi2Eb_7l7Y0YNQBnYCAXITqGwH6D7p-mKf7ONy3QUxmlaG282> page. Follow-up question: anybody follow his instagram page now? -rk

2025-08-24 18:39Thorsten Sideboardah yeah! I knew them through Chris Douglas/OST/Dalglish/Rook Valard releases. Looking at t

From:: Thorsten Sideboard <thorsten.sideb0ard@gmail.com>
To:: Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com>
Cc:: idm list <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Sun, 24 Aug 2025 11:39:05 -0700
Subject:: Re: Phthalo
Reply to:: Phthalo

ah yeah! I knew them through Chris Douglas/OST/Dalglish/Rook Valard releases. Looking at the discogs page, i remember a bunch of other good ones too - the Sistol release, Wobbly, and Tu M'. Boomkat has a bunch of the Phthalocyanine releases - this one sounds ace: https://boomkat.com/products/viridian-ep-ed-2 On Sun, Aug 24, 2025 at 3:56 AM Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 15 lines anybody present ever get into Phthalocyanine?

> anybody present ever get into Phthalocyanine? > > His cd-r label Phthalo preceding the Planet Mu releases had a massive > impact on me in 1998/99. Felt like as big a deal as Schematic and Chocolate > Industries (as far as USA IDM) around that time, most of the artists he put > out early on in their careers are titans now-- James Kirby/Caretaker, > Dntel, Vladislav Delay just for starters-- check out that discogs > <https://www.discogs.com/artist/500-Phthalocyanine?srsltid=AfmBOoqMi2Eb_7l7Y0YNQBnYCAXITqGwH6D7p-mKf7ONy3QUxmlaG282> > page. > > Follow-up question: anybody follow his instagram page now? > > > -rk >

2025-08-25 09:36Alexandra* Phthalocyanine – absolutely killer stuff, disorienting blast of distorted overdrummed ma

From:: Alexandra <tsashaowl@gmail.com>
To:: Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com>
Cc:: idm list <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Mon, 25 Aug 2025 12:36:16 +0300
Subject:: Re: Phthalo
Reply to:: Phthalo

* Phthalocyanine – absolutely killer stuff, disorienting blast of distorted overdrummed mayhem. Re-listen to it from time to time, i went through his discography a three years ago, and was planning to dive into the Phthalo catalog, but got distracted. Thanks for the reminder!Pretty sure I once used one of his tracks in a story or a post with some industrial visuals, but had no idea he was actually on Instagram 👀 (@sashaowl if you're curious)* On Sun, 24 Aug 2025 at 13:56, Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 15 lines anybody present ever get into Phthalocyanine?

2025-08-25 16:11Chris TaylorI remember him doing a show - maybe with DAT Politics? - at the Rickshaw stop in SF, proba

From:: Chris Taylor <christaylor415@gmail.com>
To:: Alexandra <tsashaowl@gmail.com>
Cc:: Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com>, idm list <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Mon, 25 Aug 2025 09:11:54 -0700
Subject:: Re: Phthalo
Reply to:: Re: Phthalo

I remember him doing a show - maybe with DAT Politics? - at the Rickshaw stop in SF, probably 2006 or 07. Storming, mega intense maximalism. The last Planet Mu release was banging - still sounded pretty good when I relistened yesterday. I sent him a message probably right before COVID to see if I could book him for a live set and never heard back. I've been in LA for 7 years now and haven't heard about him playing - he lived here at least when he was doing the label. I remember his more dancefloor focused Halo Cyan label popping up on my radar around 2012. His IG is pretty impenetrable; philosophy-grad-damage shit posting? On Mon, Aug 25, 2025 at 4:23 AM Alexandra <tsashaowl@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 29 lines * Phthalocyanine – absolutely killer stuff, disorienting blast of

> > * Phthalocyanine – absolutely killer stuff, disorienting blast of > distorted overdrummed mayhem. Re-listen to it from time to time, i went > through his discography a three years ago, and was planning to dive into > the Phthalo catalog, but got distracted. Thanks for the reminder!Pretty > sure I once used one of his tracks in a story or a post with some > industrial visuals, but had no idea he was actually on Instagram > 👀 (@sashaowl if you're curious)* > > > > On Sun, 24 Aug 2025 at 13:56, Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> wrote: > >> anybody present ever get into Phthalocyanine? >> >> His cd-r label Phthalo preceding the Planet Mu releases had a massive >> impact on me in 1998/99. Felt like as big a deal as Schematic and Chocolate >> Industries (as far as USA IDM) around that time, most of the artists he put >> out early on in their careers are titans now-- James Kirby/Caretaker, >> Dntel, Vladislav Delay just for starters-- check out that discogs >> <https://www.discogs.com/artist/500-Phthalocyanine?srsltid=AfmBOoqMi2Eb_7l7Y0YNQBnYCAXITqGwH6D7p-mKf7ONy3QUxmlaG282> >> page. >> >> Follow-up question: anybody follow his instagram page now? >> >> >> -rk >> >

2025-08-25 19:38Rjyan Kidwell> > His IG is pretty impenetrable; philosophy-grad-damage shit posting? Yeah, not to fart

From:: Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com>
To:: Chris Taylor <christaylor415@gmail.com>
Cc:: idm list <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Mon, 25 Aug 2025 15:38:27 -0400
Subject:: Re: Phthalo
Reply to:: Re: Phthalo

quoted 2 lines His IG is pretty impenetrable; philosophy-grad-damage shit posting?

> > His IG is pretty impenetrable; philosophy-grad-damage shit posting?

Yeah, not to fart in the hot tub here but that's kinda what I was hoping to get some background on. Is it sketch for me to smash the like on these posts? He definitely has always had <https://i.discogs.com/WkBh2YBAJygJPZNKuLGSpQic6KXZi1f9BSDLZ28t7Lk/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:260/w:260/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9BLTUwMC0x/MTE5ODY5NjgwLmpw/Zw.jpeg> this kind of dense, academic-adjacent-content+transgressive-punk-form style of writing (I'm a dropout so this is probably a goofy/inappropriate comparison but kinda "IDM George Bataille, minus the perversion"?) and I've always really appreciated it as a unique form of artist communication far more artful and inspiring than the average electronic musician's verbal communications. In the context of an avant garde music producer, it's unique and exciting, but I hope this isn't too rude to say out loud but in the context of instagram, the sheer volume of these posts make me wonder if there isn't a pinch of schizophrenia in the mix?

2025-08-25 21:04Kiya BabzaniCurious, what Instagram accounts are you all referring to here? Or are you speaking of Ins

From:: Kiya Babzani <denial@ix.netcom.com>
To:: Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com>, Chris Taylor <christaylor415@gmail.com>
Cc:: idm list <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Mon, 25 Aug 2025 21:04:32 +0000
Subject:: Re: Phthalo

Curious, what Instagram accounts are you all referring to here? Or are you speaking of Instagram as a whole? -kiya www.selfedge.com -----Original Message----- From: Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> Sent: Aug 25, 2025 10:38 PM To: Chris Taylor <christaylor415@gmail.com> Cc: idm list <idm@hyperreal.org> Subject: Re: Phthalo His IG is pretty impenetrable; philosophy-grad-damage shit posting? Yeah, not to fart in the hot tub here but that's kinda what I was hoping to get some background on. Is it sketch for me to smash the like on these posts? He definitely has always had (https://i.discogs.com/WkBh2YBAJygJPZNKuLGSpQic6KXZi1f9BSDLZ28t7Lk/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:260/w:260/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9BLTUwMC0x/MTE5ODY5NjgwLmpw/Zw.jpeg) this kind of dense, academic-adjacent-content+transgressive-punk-form style of writing (I'm a dropout so this is probably a goofy/inappropriate comparison but kinda "IDM George Bataille, minus the perversion"?) and I've always really appreciated it as a unique form of artist communication far more artful and inspiring than the average electronic musician's verbal communications. In the context of an avant garde music producer, it's unique and exciting, but I hope this isn't too rude to say out loud but in the context of instagram, the sheer volume of these posts make me wonder if there isn't a pinch of schizophrenia in the mix?

2025-08-26 13:42Rjyan KidwellPhthalocyanine's acct: https://www.instagram.com/originary_technicity/ Fingers crossed som

From:: Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com>
To:: Kiya Babzani <denial@ix.netcom.com>, idm list <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 26 Aug 2025 09:42:45 -0400
Subject:: Re: Phthalo
Reply to:: Re: Phthalo

Phthalocyanine's acct: https://www.instagram.com/originary_technicity/ Fingers crossed some of this energy finds its way into a new album. -rk On Mon, Aug 25, 2025 at 5:04 PM Kiya Babzani <denial@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

quoted 43 lines Curious, what Instagram accounts are you all referring to here? Or are

> Curious, what Instagram accounts are you all referring to here? Or are > you speaking of Instagram as a whole? > > > > -kiya > > www.selfedge.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> > Sent: Aug 25, 2025 10:38 PM > To: Chris Taylor <christaylor415@gmail.com> > Cc: idm list <idm@hyperreal.org> > Subject: Re: Phthalo > > > >> His IG is pretty impenetrable; philosophy-grad-damage shit posting? > > > Yeah, not to fart in the hot tub here but that's kinda what I was hoping > to get some background on. Is it sketch for me to smash the like on these > posts? He definitely has always had > <https://i.discogs.com/WkBh2YBAJygJPZNKuLGSpQic6KXZi1f9BSDLZ28t7Lk/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:260/w:260/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9BLTUwMC0x/MTE5ODY5NjgwLmpw/Zw.jpeg> > this kind of dense, academic-adjacent-content+transgressive-punk-form style > of writing (I'm a dropout so this is probably a goofy/inappropriate > comparison but kinda "IDM George Bataille, minus the perversion"?) and I've > always really appreciated it as a unique form of artist communication far > more artful and inspiring than the average electronic musician's verbal > communications. > > In the context of an avant garde music producer, it's unique and exciting, > but I hope this isn't too rude to say out loud but in the context of > instagram, the sheer volume of these posts make me wonder if there isn't a > pinch of schizophrenia in the mix? > > > > >