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1994-09-09 13:56Brian HostetlerAll the positive reviews of the new Orbital prodded me into lifting my temporary ban on el

From:: Brian Hostetler <bhostetl@silver.ucs.indiana.edu>
To:: Or be tall <orbital@xmission.com>, Intelligent? Dance Music <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 08:56:47 -0500 (EST)
Subject:: Orbital "Snivilization"

All the positive reviews of the new Orbital prodded me into lifting my temporary ban on electronic music. Well, after a couple of listens, I would have to say that I don't think it's so hot. Don't expect a swirling dance fest like the Impact/Lush/Remind track. All the tracks are pretty slow. Those of us with pitch control CD players or vinyl (perish the thought) will be able to speed it up enough to get *something* out of it, though. Also, I never liked Attached, but the version on the CD is a bit better than the normal mix. 5/10. -- Brian Hostetler http://sparrow.bio.indiana.edu/brian/me '...most of it is radical hip drug culture overload. Obviously, the first thing to do is set up some simple methodology and see if you can't study the experiences under control laboratory conditions.'

1994-09-09 16:00Ken StuartOn Fri, 9 Sep 1994 08:56:47 -0500 (EST), Brian Hostetler <bhostetl@silver.ucs.indiana.edu>

From:: Ken Stuart <ken@snowcrest.net>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Fri, 9 Sep 94 09:00:52 PDT
Subject:: Re: Orbital "Snivilization"

On Fri, 9 Sep 1994 08:56:47 -0500 (EST), Brian Hostetler <bhostetl@silver.ucs.indiana.edu> wrote:

quoted 1 line Don't expect a swirling dance fest like the Impact/Lush/Remind track.

>Don't expect a swirling dance fest like the Impact/Lush/Remind track.

Agreed! The picture from the cover of AI One applies. While there are plenty of beats, this is nevertheless listening music.

quoted 3 lines All the tracks are pretty slow. Those of us with pitch control

>All the tracks are pretty slow. Those of us with pitch control >CD players or vinyl (perish the thought) will be able to speed it up enough >to get *something* out of it, though.

Is this the IDM list or the breaks list? You need a really heavy pitch control with SAWII to get those 40 BPM tracks up to 160 BPM where you can get *something* out of it. :-) Beat matching is one thing, but I think you are messing with Orbital's artistic conception if you alter the speed too much. - respect to all, Ken ken@snowcrest.net (primary address) (if no answer, try ken.stuart@tigerteam.org )

1994-09-09 21:27Brian HostetlerKen Stuart said: > Is this the IDM list or the breaks list? Uh, I always thought it was th

From:: Brian Hostetler <bhostetl@silver.ucs.indiana.edu>
To:: Intelligent? Dance Music <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 16:27:54 -0500 (EST)
Subject:: Re: Orbital "Snivilization"

Ken Stuart said: > Is this the IDM list or the breaks list? Uh, I always thought it was the Intelligent DANCE Music List. > You need a really heavy pitch control with SAWII to get those 40 BPM tracks > up to 160 BPM where you can get *something* out of it. :-) Actually, I wanted to mention this before -- every Aphex Twin I've played sounds SO MUCH BETTER slowed down. And I'm talking like -12%, not some weasle -5%. Really, most of the IDM I have sounds so much better slowed down. Very rarely does it sound cool sped-up. The Orbital is just an exception. I don't like their slow stuff as a rule, so maybe that's why I don't like too much Snivilization, I guess. Just a little FYI! :p -- Brian Hostetler http://sparrow.bio.indiana.edu/brian/me '...most of it is radical hip drug culture overload. Obviously, the first thing to do is set up some simple methodology and see if you can't study the experiences under control laboratory conditions.'

Re: Orbital "Snivilization"