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◇ merged from 2 subjects: hardcore/jungle/breakbeat · wire magazine
1994-09-06 18:06Mohsen Gamshad Wire Magazine
1994-09-06 21:58Ryan G. Pals Re: Wire Magazine
└─ 1994-09-15 19:21djkc hardcore/jungle/breakbeat
1994-09-07 07:19Christian Bartholdsson Re: Wire Magazine
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1994-09-06 18:06Mohsen GamshadThe Sept. issue of Wire has an interesting interview with Pete Namlook done by David Toop
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The Sept. issue of Wire has an interesting interview with Pete Namlook done by David Toop via, what else, a fax machine. PN's biggest thing was his new program on some chord progressions or something, which he presented this summer. There is also an article on "Ambient Jungle"? Has anyone seen the article or heard the music described? One artist I can remember is Metalheads? Strange! And finally, there is scribbles on Massive Attack's new LP, who I think make some of the most creative dub stuff ever. Mohsen
1994-09-06 21:58Ryan G. Palsgamshad@tcs.com (Mohsen Gamshad) writes: >presented this summer. There is also an article
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gamshad@tcs.com (Mohsen Gamshad) writes:
quoted 3 lines presented this summer. There is also an article on "Ambient Jungle"?>presented this summer. There is also an article on "Ambient Jungle"? >Has anyone seen the article or heard the music described? One artist >I can remember is Metalheads? Strange! And finally, there is scribbles
although i am not claiming to be an expert on the subject, the review is way off. 'ambient jungle' does not exist. jungle is hardcore/breakbeat with dance hall, reggae, patois, etc. influences. the sound could hardly be described as 'ambient.' i don't think it would appeal to the 'idm' crowd at all, as it not only has the despised 'chipmunk vocals' but adds 'cookie monster vocals' as well (i myself love it). jungle is used improperly as a blanket term. it would be as if i said everything discussed on this list was 'trance.' the 'ambient' stuff is a bit harder to describe. metalheads make slightly darkish hardcore tunes, not your typical speed overload old school happy hardcore stuff. i wouldn't call it 'ambient' but you might be able to stick the 'intelligent dance music' tag on it though. hardcore/breakbeat has really gone through a lot of progression, and i think it warrants a closer look if you haven't kept up with it. you might find something you like. stuff like deep blue, 4 hero, omni trio, etc. is definately pushing down boundaries. if you want an easy starting point, i'd suggest the latest lp by 4 hero, titled 'parallel universe.' it's mad combination of hardcore, jazz, and yes, ambience. blissed out music with sped up breakbeats. it is available on cd as well on reinforced records. -- :::ryan pals . \ ` ' / . :::fk453@cleveland.Freenet.Edu ._` __^__ '_. :::the universe flows toward the [()=()] :::ultimate conclusion /_____\
1994-09-15 19:21djkcRyan G. Pals writes: > > > although i am not claiming to be an expert on the subject, > th
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Ryan G. Pals writes:
quoted 12 lines although i am not claiming to be an expert on the subject,> > > although i am not claiming to be an expert on the subject, > the review is way off. 'ambient jungle' does not exist. > jungle is hardcore/breakbeat with dance hall, reggae, patois, > etc. influences. the sound could hardly be described as > 'ambient.' i don't think it would appeal to the 'idm' crowd > at all, as it not only has the despised 'chipmunk vocals' but > adds 'cookie monster vocals' as well (i myself love it). > jungle is used improperly as a blanket term. it would be as if > i said everything discussed on this list was 'trance.' >
I tend to call JUNGLE the stuff with dancehall, raggae, etc influences and with the 'cookie monster vocals,' and the beats are usually fewer, like 1 or 2 in each measure... more laid back... And I call HARDCORE (breakbeat) the stuff with 'chipmunk vocals' and more of a techno edge, and beats are several within a measure, so the speed (155-165 bpm) is emphasized...it's harder...intense...thus hardcore. But, what's in a name? Anyhow, breakbeat is indeed very intelligent in the percussion programming department. -djkc
1994-09-07 07:19Christian BartholdssonRyan G. Pals writes: >although i am not claiming to be an expert on the subject, >the revi
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Ryan G. Pals writes:
quoted 6 lines although i am not claiming to be an expert on the subject,>although i am not claiming to be an expert on the subject, >the review is way off. 'ambient jungle' does not exist. >jungle is hardcore/breakbeat with dance hall, reggae, patois, >etc. influences. the sound could hardly be described as >'ambient.' i don't think it would appeal to the 'idm' crowd >at all, as it not only has the despised 'chipmunk vocals' but
I very rarely hear chipmunk vocals in breakbeat tunes these days. Why dig up the few chipmunks that are left when there are loads of great innovative records? - chris@minsk.docs.uu.se <http://www.update.uu.se/~chris/>