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Re: >Ambient to Billboard

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1994-07-20 17:31Jon Drukman Re: >Ambient to Billboard
└─ 1994-07-20 21:35Dave Manning Re: >Ambient to Billboard
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1994-07-20 17:31Jon DrukmanRE>>Ambient to Billboard >>and Aphex Twin. (Ironic, given Eno's comments about James in th
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Wed, 20 Jul 1994 10:31:22 PDT
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Re: >Ambient to Billboard
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RE>>Ambient to Billboard
quoted 2 lines and Aphex Twin. (Ironic, given Eno's comments about James in the Eno>>and Aphex Twin. (Ironic, given Eno's comments about James in the Eno >>Instrumental Box Set ...)
quoted 1 line OK, I'll bite - what were Eno's comments?>OK, I'll bite - what were Eno's comments?
I can't quote it verbatim since I don't have the set handy, but the general gist was that Eno was complaining that most of the artists doing so-called "ambient" today didn't sound very ambient to him. More like what people who just bought a synth and fucked around with it for a few days could do. He specifically mentioned James. But this was pre-SAW2, which is much more ambient that SAW1... I'll try to remember to bring in the booklet one of these days and post the exact text.
quoted 3 lines As a fan of both, I fail to understand why some people claim "Oh, Richard>As a fan of both, I fail to understand why some people claim "Oh, Richard >just regurgitates what Eno and Tangerine Dream used to do". Hogwash. >Something like "Discreet Music" is *much* quieter than "Selected Ambient
Works
quoted 1 line Vol. II".>Vol. II".
is it? i dunno, i think they're both pretty dull, actually. i'm not big fan of Discreet Music - it's much more notable for the process of its construction rather than the actual result. but Eno's successful ambient releases just have so much depth to them - I think far more than James/Namlook/whoever else is trendy this week. whatever, different strokes...
quoted 1 line The Internet gets three mentions in the article as well, first as a source>>The Internet gets three mentions in the article as well, first as a source
of
quoted 1 line information about Ambient artists (gee, who are they talking about!),>>information about Ambient artists (gee, who are they talking about!),
second as
quoted 1 line reason for speed of Ambient info dissemination, and third as a possible>>reason for speed of Ambient info dissemination, and third as a possible
source
quoted 1 line of sound samples.>>of sound samples.
quoted 1 line This "third" sounds ominous ...>This "third" sounds ominous ...
well, all it actually said was that Mixmaster Morris was considering making samples of his work available for people to download, just like Seefeel have already done. (Huh? Have they? I didn't know that, but that's what it said in the article...)
quoted 2 lines There's another front page article headed "Time-Warner Companies Making>>There's another front page article headed "Time-Warner Companies Making >>Multimedia Moves" but it's not strictly IDM material (interesting,
though).
quoted 1 line See? See? If we don't get the "distribute your music in 44.1/44.8 KHz>See? See? If we don't get the "distribute your music in 44.1/44.8 KHz
form
quoted 2 lines via your Web Home Page" going soon, these bastards will catch on and try to>via your Web Home Page" going soon, these bastards will catch on and try to >stop it, or play the game themselves ... arrgh ...
Er, the article only mentioned that T/W was starting a few labels that would be doing interactive CD-ROMs and such... One of the labels is being helmed by the guy who produced "The Residents' Freak Show" for Voyager, so it has potential!
quoted 1 line (Actually, it just makes me sad/frustrated, since there's this certain>(Actually, it just makes me sad/frustrated, since there's this certain
other
quoted 2 lines recently-signed-to-American beat combo whom Jon and I are well familiar with,> recently-signed-to-American beat combo whom Jon and I are well familiar with, > whom I dearly wish would bravely reinvent themselves, but unlike
Love&Rockets
quoted 1 line the "let's reinvent ourselves" contingent doesn't have a quorum :-( :-> the "let's reinvent ourselves" contingent doesn't have a quorum :-( :-( )
I'm not surprised about this when they have a built-in audience for their stuff that will pay the bills. I AM surprised that the non-quorum faction of the band hasn't launched Yet Another side project to fulfill their more futuristic leanings. I can't imagine why, really. /jon
1994-07-20 21:35Dave ManningOn Wed, 20 Jul 1994, Jon Drukman wrote: > I'm not surprised about this when they have a bu
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Dave Manning
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Wed, 20 Jul 1994 16:35:49 -0500 (CDT)
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Re: >Ambient to Billboard
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On Wed, 20 Jul 1994, Jon Drukman wrote:
quoted 4 lines I'm not surprised about this when they have a built-in audience for their> I'm not surprised about this when they have a built-in audience for their > stuff that will pay the bills. I AM surprised that the non-quorum faction > of the band hasn't launched Yet Another side project to fulfill their more > futuristic leanings. I can't imagine why, really.
Neither can I. Bill Leeb and Rhys Fulber have covered nearly every imaginable subgenre - and most of the time it works really well - and have shown that you don't *always* have to be an aggro-post-angry combo. I'd love to hear some new Tear Garden stuff with a new sound, or maybe just a solo record from the member of the band who *has* been assimilated by the "techno borg" (as Greg Earle would say ;-). Personally, a totally muted version of "Punk in Park's Zoo" with whale noises or something would probably be kind of neat. Dave :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::dmanning@cwis.unomaha.edu:::::::: :: "Guaranteed like Yoo-Hoo..." :: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::--Beastie Boys:::::::::::::