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1994-05-24 04:37Barry Sanders Re: IDM Comp [was: New Thread!]
├─ 1994-05-24 05:24- Greg Earle Re: IDM Comp [was: New Thread!]
│ └─ 1994-05-24 06:28flu'id (floo'-) IDM Comp: www
└─ 1994-05-24 19:45LARRY S LEITNER Re: IDM Comp [was: New Thread!]
├─ 1994-05-25 15:46Michael King IDM Comp & How'd you get your pipe?
└─ 1994-05-26 03:54Dan Nicholson Re: IDM Comp [was: New Thread!]
1994-05-27 13:40Pete Ashdown Re: IDM Comp & How'd you get your pipe?
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1994-05-24 04:37Barry Sanders>> >have >> > you considered the idea of contacting Warp or maybe another label with >> >
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Mon, 23 May 94 23:37:23 CDT
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quoted 4 lines have>> >have >> > you considered the idea of contacting Warp or maybe another label with >> > this idea? They may be interested. Give it a shot! What have you got to >>lose?
quoted 1 line No $h!t !!!>No $h!t !!!
Exactly :-)
quoted 1 line CatCompilation, a compilation of Network [Internet?] bands>CatCompilation, a compilation of Network [Internet?] bands
quoted 2 lines it has signed AND UN-signed bands on it. And she's been contacted by SPIN...>it has signed AND UN-signed bands on it. And she's been contacted by SPIN... >they're interested in it.
Hell yes. Ever since it suddenly became cool to 'play in cyberspace' (ooooh), the music media is just ripe for something like this.
quoted 3 lines What I was thinking was, why not take net-compilations to a more serious>What I was thinking was, why not take net-compilations to a more serious >level by trying to offer it to a label. How could we sell ourselves? >"Sounds from Cyberspace?"
Ahh. Nice spin on that one. Here's some more: "Dream of the Cybernauts" "Virtual Music from Cyberspace" "Soundtrack for Cyberspace" You get the idea. Just pile a whole lot of media-hot-button buzz words together and they're likely to bite. There's a lot of hype potential here.
quoted 3 lines First we must see what Floo and B have to say...>First we must see what Floo and B have to say... >If you guys want to atleast try, we should all help out and make contacts >with labels about the idea.
I'll be happy to try, but if I had solid connections with a label, then I wouldn't be unsigned. Well, ideally, anyway... We need to multiply our influence by leveraging the hype factor with the collective influences of the few IDM'ers who *are* in tight with the labels, and with magazines like SPIN, WiRED, etc. I like this idea! Barry "Information wants to be free! (Or for a small charge, which will be conveniently added to your monthly phone bill.)" -B. Sanders
1994-05-24 05:24- Greg Earle>>>>Have you considered the idea of contacting Warp or maybe another label with >>>>this i
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Mon, 23 May 1994 22:24:11 -0700
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quoted 15 lines Have you considered the idea of contacting Warp or maybe another label with>>>>Have you considered the idea of contacting Warp or maybe another label with >>>>this idea? They may be interested. Give it a shot! What have you got to >>>>lose? >> >>No $h!t !!! > >Exactly :-) > >>CatCompilation, a compilation of Network [Internet?] bands >> >>It has signed AND UN-signed bands on it. And she's been contacted by SPIN - >>they're interested in it. > >Hell yes. Ever since it suddenly became cool to 'play in cyberspace' (ooooh), >the music media is just ripe for something like this.
Jeez. The irony, here this guy Barry is at NCSA and all ... C'mon folks. A net compilation *tape*? As in, "analog cassette"? As in, "yesterday's news", "primitive mechanisms" and all that? Why don't we press some 78's ... Surely we can do better than that. Put on your thinking caps. What's the obvious thing? Give up? Well, here's the answer: the Virtual Web Compilation. You click on a WWW page at "techno", it tells you all about the work, and then there are separate Hypertext links to each track, pointing you off to a Web server where the track lives. 8-bit ulaw AU format? 16-bit MPEG audio format? Whatever. I don't care. Just do something. For example, I could put one of my wife's tracks up on my Web server at work, and clicking on her entry would download it from here. You all, of course, DO realize that in the very near future, this mechanism will become the de-facto distribution mechanism for unsigned music, don't you? Big Ugly Rip-Off Money-Hungry Record Companies will cease to exist as we know it, if we can pull this off. They're already scared shitless. Don't believe me? My wife is an ASCAP member. She gets worthless brochures from the Harry Fox Agency - the people who are supposed to be out collecting her royalties from this miserable Belgian bastard who kept them all - and the last one we got showed a bunch of suits attending a conference to discuss how to keep control of copyright protection in Cyberspace. So why shouldn't WE be the first pioneers to show the way towards this kind of future? Who needs a bunch of tw*ts like Warp or whomever to wait a million years to get it out, then if it happens to sell they say "Sorry chaps, we've only sold enough to minimize our losses, argy bargy hah hah hah ...". Take the means of production and distribution into your own hands. Remember Punk Rock? As soon as I get off my lazy arse, I'm going to buy a cheap Radio Schlock mixer that does good stereo -> mono mixdowns, and then I'm going to bring it into work and start blasting Namlook, AFX, "Trance Europe Express" et al. all over the g*dd*mn*d Internet. If you're on the net at your desktop and you don't have MBONE access, get off the stick already. (-: There's already an MBONE radio show ("Radio Free VAT") and all I have to do is get a slot to play in. Not hard, since there're only a couple of people playing stuff on it ... - Greg P.S. "What's MBONE?" - http://www.research.att.com/mbone-faq.html
1994-05-24 06:28flu'id (floo'-)On Mon, 23 May 1994, - Greg Earle wrote: > C'mon folks. A net compilation *tape*? As in, "
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Tue, 24 May 1994 02:28:10 -0400 (EDT)
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On Mon, 23 May 1994, - Greg Earle wrote:
quoted 3 lines C'mon folks. A net compilation *tape*? As in, "analog cassette"? As in,> C'mon folks. A net compilation *tape*? As in, "analog cassette"? As in, > "yesterday's news", "primitive mechanisms" and all that? Why don't we press > some 78's ...
Well, the idea was actually for a CD...
quoted 1 line Give up? Well, here's the answer: the Virtual Web Compilation.> Give up? Well, here's the answer: the Virtual Web Compilation.
Id thought about this myself. The Rephlex www discography is close to finished and Brian started the "Web Music" list detailing his ideas for the future of music on the net. I dont think that this would exist on its own however, but would compliment the CD pressing. Perhaps it could contain artist biographies and other additional information not included in the CD cover. _______ (__,-, \ / /\ \ f l u i d <finger me for PGP key> /,_) \ \ flu'id (floo'-) (/ \\ brit@chopin.udel.edu :65 FD F9 9F F2 23 F8 CF: \) fluid@freezer.cns.udel.edu :80 9C 11 AA 9F 92 0D 27:
1994-05-24 19:45LARRY S LEITNEROn Mon, 23 May 1994, Barry Sanders wrote: > > Ahh. Nice spin on that one. Here's some more
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Tue, 24 May 1994 15:45:17 -0400 (EDT)
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On Mon, 23 May 1994, Barry Sanders wrote:
quoted 7 lines Ahh. Nice spin on that one. Here's some more:> > Ahh. Nice spin on that one. Here's some more: > > "Dream of the Cybernauts" > "Virtual Music from Cyberspace" > "Soundtrack for Cyberspace" >
I think you should call it 'Themes from Inteligent Dance Music' or is everybody going to get into that 'what is IDM' again. Later, Larry.
1994-05-25 15:46Michael KingFrom the cyberdesk of: LARRY S LEITNER > On Mon, 23 May 1994, Barry Sanders wrote: > > Ahh
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Wed, 25 May 1994 10:46:15 -0500 (CDT)
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IDM Comp & How'd you get your pipe?
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From the cyberdesk of: LARRY S LEITNER
quoted 7 lines On Mon, 23 May 1994, Barry Sanders wrote:> On Mon, 23 May 1994, Barry Sanders wrote: > > Ahh. Nice spin on that one. Here's some more: > > "Dream of the Cybernauts" > > "Virtual Music from Cyberspace" > > "Soundtrack for Cyberspace" > I think you should call it 'Themes from Inteligent Dance Music' or is > everybody going to get into that 'what is IDM' again.
How about: "Themes from IDM" (the acronym rolls better off the tongue, IMHO) "Whispers of the Mind" "Motifs: An electronic soundscape" "Murmurs from the Electronic Frontier" "Edge of the world: Cyberspace is not flat!" IMHO, I prefer the WWW approach, though. Self-publishing seems to me to be the best solution. (As long as there are no "orb-alikes" with 39+ minute pieces.) Here's some questions for fellow IDM-ers: Where and HOW did you get your fat pipe to the Internet to support the bandwidth WWW and multimedia access you seem to be enjoying? And I'm particularly interested in those of us that *don't* use the resources of the university they attend. Some of us cannot remain students all of our lives. Anybody got a "personal" (or close to it) T1 link? What all is involved in getting a fat pipe to your house? What sort of cost are we talkin? What are the actual services and boxes that I would need? (i.e. what products do I start shopping for and what do I ask the phone company or Sprint or AT&T or MCI or (others, anyone?) to give me? Anybody live where Ole Bill (Gates) is hookin' up yer TV to the Internet via two-way cable-TV? What's available now with 14.4k bps v.FAST technology (i.e. <$200 modems)? Is Mosaic just too slow at that speed, even? If I download Mosaic for Windoze, what else do I need to do to use it? Do I need to find a SLIP connection to the net at that point? I heard I need TCP/IP services for Mosaic (i.e. get a TCP/IP DLL). I guess I'm heading towards either becoming a provider myself or helping others get access to these services. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael King mike%delta1@rex.cs.tulane.edu Delta Systems New Orleans, LA 70002-4938 Voice: 504.837.9835 Fax: 504.837.9838 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- One in twelve people is mentally unstable. Think of your eleven closest friends; if they seem ok . . . . . ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1994-05-26 03:54Dan NicholsonLARRY S LEITNER <leitner@cs.odu.edu> writes: > > > On Mon, 23 May 1994, Barry Sanders wrot
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LARRY S LEITNER <leitner@cs.odu.edu> writes:
quoted 13 lines On Mon, 23 May 1994, Barry Sanders wrote:> > > On Mon, 23 May 1994, Barry Sanders wrote: > > > > Ahh. Nice spin on that one. Here's some more: > > > > "Dream of the Cybernauts" > > "Virtual Music from Cyberspace" > > "Soundtrack for Cyberspace" > > > > I think you should call it 'Themes from Inteligent Dance Music' or is > everybody going to get into that 'what is IDM' again.
hey... there's a good one: "what is IDM" :-) gets my vote! - DanN /~~~\ |~~~~\ |~~||~~~~~~| |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | o | | o || ||__ __| | DanN = moddan@vlad.bowker.com | \ / /~~~\ | / | | | | | t23@cyberspace.com | / \ | O || \ | | | | | Transmission 23 - FTZ - edrone | | O | \___/ | O || | | | |____________________________________| \___/ C O L L|____/E|__|C |__|T I V E \*\ \*\
1994-05-27 13:40Pete Ashdown> Michael King wrote: > > > >If I download Mosaic for Windoze, what else do I need to do t
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Fri, 27 May 1994 07:40:42 -0600 (MDT)
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quoted 9 lines Michael King wrote:> Michael King wrote: > > > >If I download Mosaic for Windoze, what else do I need to do to use it? Do > >I need to find a SLIP connection to the net at that point? I heard I need > >TCP/IP services for Mosaic (i.e. get a TCP/IP DLL). I guess I'm heading > >towards either becoming a provider myself or helping others get access to > >these services. > > I too would like to know these things!
You need either SLIP (which is free for Windows) or preferably PPP (which you can get for cheap in the book "The Windows Internet Tour Guide"). Then you need a service provider who gives you either service for cheap. At the danger of sounding like an advertisement, I'm going to stop here. If you need more info, mail me. ObIDM connection: FSOL and Richard James probably don't know how to program Mosaic.