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Kelli-Jeanne <kelli@netcom.com> said:

quoted 4 lines slowdive are touring the US in april...the only dates i know

> slowdive are touring the US in april...the only dates i know > for sure are LA on april 11th and SF on april 12th. if you're > curious about their sort of bliss-music, i _highly_ recommend > you see them live...

What is Shoegaze(y) music? (the term "bliss-music" really caught my attention) Are there any frequently discussed groups on IDM that fall into this catagory (other than slowdive, which I haven't heard)? Are there any samples on techno.stanford.edu of this stuff? Don donpierr@netcom.com

On Sun, 20 Mar 1994, Don Gray wrote:

quoted 4 lines What is Shoegaze(y) music? (the term "bliss-music" really caught my

> What is Shoegaze(y) music? (the term "bliss-music" really caught my > attention) Are there any frequently discussed groups on IDM that fall into > this catagory (other than slowdive, which I haven't heard)? >

"Shoegazer" or "dream pop" music is a primarily guitar-based hybrid that takes elements of traditional ambience and interweaves into an "indie-rock" background. The common reference points of much shoegazer music are early records from the Cocteau Twins and the Jesus and Mary Chain's _Psychocandy_, along with early material by A.R. Kane and My Bloody Valentine's recordings from around '87-'88. Melodies are generally carried by multilayered guitars, fed through stacks of effects and distortion until the begin to resemble a pure wash of sound. Indeed, on quite a few records it's almost impossible to tell whether the lead instrument is a guitar or an analogue synthesizer. Bands that have worked within this style include My Bloody Valentine, Ride, Lush, Chapterhouse, Seefeel, Slowdive, Moose, the Boo Radleys, Drop Nineteens, Verve, the Belltower, the Pale Saints, Swervedriver, Majesty Crush, and the Catherine Wheel. The term "shoegazer" comes from the general onstage persona of a lot of the bands, who quite often would avoid eye contact with their audiences.

quoted 1 line Are there any samples on techno.stanford.edu of this stuff?

> Are there any samples on techno.stanford.edu of this stuff?

I don't think so, but My Bloody Valentine's "Soon" appears on quite a few comps from around 1990 or so, and Seefeel's "Come Alive" appears on Volume (Seven, I think). (In my opinion) there's always been a slight aesthetic crossover between dream-pop and IDM, but it's only recently been made explicit on record -- Chapterhouse's _Blood Music_, Slowdive's _5ep_, and almost all of Seefeel's material freely incorporate techno-derived rhythms and trancy song-structures. | Dave Walker, Detroit Art Services (DAS) | | | | marmoset@msen.com "Clear." |

quoted 1 line Are there any samples on techno.stanford.edu of this stuff?

> > Are there any samples on techno.stanford.edu of this stuff?

what What WHAT. If you havent experienced this kind of music before... feel lucky. I can't see anyway in which parallels can be drawn between it and idm. ( unless they are remixed by idm artists, such as the slowdive thing etc.). I *try* to keep an open mind about different musical genres.. but this is where i have drawn my line. tends to be absolute depressing drivel (imho)

quoted 4 lines (In my opinion) there's always been a slight aesthetic crossover between

> (In my opinion) there's always been a slight aesthetic crossover between > dream-pop and IDM, but it's only recently been made explicit on record -- > Chapterhouse's _Blood Music_, Slowdive's _5ep_, and almost all of >

hmmm hmmm hmmm dunno mate.