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1994-03-08 18:47u91clw@ecs.oxford.ac.uk---------- Has anyone seen the new Future Sound Of London offering? February they told me,

From:: <u91clw@ecs.oxford.ac.uk>
To:: <idm@techno.Stanford.EDU>
Date:: Tue, 8 Mar 94 18:47:13 GMT
Subject:: FSOL / Big Strife

---------- Has anyone seen the new Future Sound Of London offering? February they told me, but I have not seen hide nor hair of it. Having enjoyed their "Ambient Station Test Transmissions" (radio) so much, it seems unlikely that this album will go unnoticed. In case it is not old news the album will be called LIFEFORMS and the track list is: Cascade Ill Flower Flak Dead Skin Cells Spineless Jelly Among Myselves Elaborate Burn Lifeforms Bring me Home Eggshell Omnipresence Room 208 Vit A curious selection of almost clinical names, that in no way detract from the brilliance of what was heard on FSOL FM Any clues? -------- BIG LIFE are pissing me off BIG TIME by releasing The Orbs back catalogue. Having invested in 250 english quids of rarities I get jumpy when they (B.L.) break their promises. Has anyone else had this experience? Right now I am glad The Orb have moved to Island, but I am sad that they have not been able to release any of their three albums, and also sad that they have become so disillusioned with the industry. I guess that's the mainstream for you. Its safer in the underground... (p.s. replies from Big Life welcome) -------- Meanwhile SAWII just gets better and better the more I listen to it. Every sound and every melody becomes positively triptomatic. Instant bliss... Charles Wildig <u91clw@ecs.ox.ac.uk>

1994-03-08 20:06Roy Badami> BIG LIFE are pissing me off BIG TIME by releasing The Orbs back catalogue. > Having inve

From:: Roy Badami <roy@harlequin.co.uk>
To:: <u91clw@ecs.ox.ac.uk>
Cc:: <idm@techno.Stanford.EDU>
Date:: Tue, 08 Mar 1994 20:06:02 +0000
Subject:: Re: FSOL / Big Strife
Reply to:: FSOL / Big Strife

quoted 3 lines BIG LIFE are pissing me off BIG TIME by releasing The Orbs back catalogue.

> BIG LIFE are pissing me off BIG TIME by releasing The Orbs back catalogue. > Having invested in 250 english quids of rarities I get jumpy when they (B.L.) > break their promises. Has anyone else had this experience?

Personally I think it's sad when people are so pleased that they've got music no one else can get hold of, that they get upset when the status quo changes. I'm quite pleased that I've had the opportunity to buy some of the releases I missed first time round. I have no interest in buying rare records for investment value. I buy records for the music. That said, I quite sympathize with the Orb's position that they can't realistically release new stuff whilst the market is being flooded with old stuff. Cosmic

1994-03-09 10:36u91clw@ecs.oxford.ac.uk>> BIG LIFE are pissing me off BIG TIME by releasing The Orbs back catalogue. >> Having in

From:: <u91clw@ecs.oxford.ac.uk>
To:: <idm@techno.Stanford.EDU>
Date:: Wed, 9 Mar 94 10:36:09 GMT
Subject:: re: FSOL / Big Strife

quoted 11 lines BIG LIFE are pissing me off BIG TIME by releasing The Orbs back catalogue.

>> BIG LIFE are pissing me off BIG TIME by releasing The Orbs back catalogue. >> Having invested in 250 english quids of rarities I get jumpy when they (B.L.) >> break their promises. Has anyone else had this experience? > >Personally I think it's sad when people are so pleased that they've >got music no one else can get hold of, that they get upset when the >status quo changes. I'm quite pleased that I've had the opportunity >to buy some of the releases I missed first time round. > >I have no interest in buying rare records for investment value. I buy >records for the music.

Fair enough, until you realise that for anyone even vaguely interested in Orb there are a hundred outlets for their back catalogue. Until recently Orb was the toast of record fairs across UK (I have no idea about US). Releasing their best known tracks changed nothing for any interested DJ, rather it sold to teeny-boppers and popsters, serving to degrade the mystique of their other releases (I've seen the prices affected). If Roy Badami <roy@harlequin.co.uk> is interested I can easily get him in touch with a worthwhile dealer. --------

quoted 3 lines what three albums haven't the Orb released?

>what three albums haven't the Orb released? > >tino

The Orb have admitted to having three albums waiting to release. One of them was called Conspiracy and was to be released instead of Evil Bro, and the details of the other albums escape me. Other than it marks a departure from their spacier work, with earthy names like "mudmen on the brink". The third album was the result of a collaboration. Well this is what I heard anyway, further details pending. Is there not an Orb/KLF forum? (search me) --------

quoted 11 lines Has anyone seen the new Future Sound Of London offering? February they told

>>Has anyone seen the new Future Sound Of London offering? February they told >>me, but I have not seen hide nor hair of it. Having enjoyed their "Ambient >>Station Test Transmissions" (radio) so much, it seems unlikely that this >>album will go unnoticed. In case it is not old news the album will be called >> LIFEFORMS >>and the track list is: > >where did you get the tracklist from? > >according to astralwerks (who are distributing FSoL in the states), >the new album will be out in april.

April? Oh well. I got the track list from FSoL after quizzing them about their radio show. It was a standard publication. ------- Peace and Pie Charles Wildig <u91clw@ecs.ox.ac.uk>

1994-03-09 14:31Roy Badami> Fair enough, until you realise that for anyone even vaguely interested in > Orb there ar

From:: Roy Badami <roy@harlequin.co.uk>
To:: <u91clw@ecs.ox.ac.uk>
Cc:: <idm@techno.Stanford.EDU>
Date:: Wed, 09 Mar 1994 14:31:30 +0000
Subject:: Re: FSOL / Big Strife
Reply to:: re: FSOL / Big Strife

quoted 3 lines Fair enough, until you realise that for anyone even vaguely interested in

Ok, fair enough, but I wouldn't have a clue where to find a 2-year-old deleted 12". Please enlighten me. (Actually, that's a lie, I know Sister Ray is pretty good for Orb stuff....) But as for record fairs, I haven't a clue..... How do you find out about them, where do they take place, what kind of things do they sell....? Cosmic

1994-03-10 03:30the tiedyed side of the forceAt 10:36 AM 3/9/94 GMT, u91clw@ecs.ox.ac.uk wrote: >Fair enough, until you realise that fo

From:: the tiedyed side of the force <xepera@netcom.com>
To:: <u91clw@ecs.ox.ac.uk>, <idm@techno.Stanford.EDU>
Date:: Wed, 09 Mar 1994 19:30:12 -0800
Subject:: re: FSOL / Big Strife

At 10:36 AM 3/9/94 GMT, u91clw@ecs.ox.ac.uk wrote:

quoted 8 lines Fair enough, until you realise that for anyone even vaguely interested in

>Fair enough, until you realise that for anyone even vaguely interested in >Orb there are a hundred outlets for their back catalogue. Until recently >Orb was the toast of record fairs across UK (I have no idea about US). >Releasing their best known tracks changed nothing for any interested DJ, >rather it sold to teeny-boppers and popsters, serving to degrade the >mystique of their other releases (I've seen the prices affected). If >Roy Badami <roy@harlequin.co.uk> is interested I can easily get him in >touch with a worthwhile dealer.

I'm more than vaguely interested in the Orb, and have had no luck finding anything except the stuff that was recently released or re-released, and even some of that I haven't been able to get. I've looked all over San Francisco, and made calls all over the US. Perhaps it's easier in the UK. Do you (or anyone) know where I can get the Patterns & Textures video-CD set? (it would have to be NTSC) *Any* of their older stuff? &andy xepera@netcom.com ham radio: KC1IP/6 Andy Nourse

1994-03-10 19:18Lazlo Nibble>> I have no interest in buying rare records for investment value. I buy >> records for th

From:: Lazlo Nibble <lazlo@triton.unm.edu>
To:: Intelligent Dance Music <idm@techno.Stanford.EDU>
Date:: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 12:18:32 -0700 (MST)
Subject:: re: FSOL / Big Strife

quoted 7 lines I have no interest in buying rare records for investment value. I buy

>> I have no interest in buying rare records for investment value. I buy >> records for the music. > > Fair enough, until you realise that for anyone even vaguely interested > in Orb there are a hundred outlets for their back catalogue. Until > recently Orb was the toast of record fairs across UK (I have no idea > about US).

I'm lot more than "vaguely interested" in the Orb and I'd never even *seen* some of the recently-reissued material (LFC CD5, OrbInDub, etc.) until Big Life started reissuing it...and I've been looking for some of it for two or three years on the net, in the music rags, and in just about every record shop between New Mexico and Southern California. If old Orb material is cheap and plentiful in the UK that's wonderful for you but it does little good for those of us who are Stateside. The one time I've mail-ordered directly from the UK (Pulsating Remixes 12" from Sister Ray) the disc turned out to be a bootleg and the shipping costs very nearly doubled the price. I was happy to get the single in any case but it's not something I'd want to make a habit of.

quoted 3 lines Releasing their best known tracks changed nothing for any interested DJ,

> Releasing their best known tracks changed nothing for any interested DJ, > rather it sold to teeny-boppers and popsters, serving to degrade the > mystique of their other releases (I've seen the prices affected).

Awww, poor baby. If you want to invest your money, invest it in something that's meant to be used as an investment. Music is meant to be listened to, not hoarded. -- Lazlo (lazlo@unm.edu)

re: FSOL / Big Strife