IDM Mailing Archive

On Mar 3, 3:12pm, you proclaimed: } Sounds like a great idea. Im not, however, familiar with Mosaic - can } someone explain it? I don't have a FAQ handy, but basically, it's a graphical tool to view multimedia hypertext documents distributed over the internet - imagine gopher on acid :) It seemlessly integrated inlined or external images, sound files, even movies. How do you access it? The best way is to have direct access to a machine running X windows, a Mac, or a PC running Windows directly connected to the net. From there you can either ask your sysadmin if Mosaic is installed, and if it's not, grab it yourself from ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu and install it. When you start it up it connects you to NCSA's home page, and there are hypertext links from there to other places around the net, too. I've put techno.stanford.edu's info files up on the "World Wide Web" as well, meaning you can access it via Mosaic using the "URL" "http://techno.stanford.edu". For more info, and probably the FAQ, read comp.infosystems.www. My job at Wired over the past few months has been to get them up to speed on WWW, so I'm a big booster of it :) If you have any other questions, read the FAQ first, then mail me if you still don't know the answer. This should be kept off IDM generally, until I post the URL for the Rephlex discog. :) } Maybe we could plug in some .avi files too. The standard sound format right now is the 8-bit 8-khtz .au format - it's what most people can play and record with on the net, and is acceptable in terms of kbytes/sec. MPEG compression promises to be a little better, but until it's a real standard we should stick with .au. (Again, all comments/flames on that subject should be sent privately) } Sounds } wouldnt be too hard as I own over half of the stuff anyway - sounds like } a fun project (he said with his new multimedia system) ;) Cool! If you could digitize the music (30-second samples, 250K each, there are sound converters on techno.stanford.edu) and you or someone else scan in the covers (small so that they can be inlined - like 150x150 or something, GIFs prefereed) then I'll work to combine them into an HTML doc. Also, I can provide hypertext links to reviews in other documents on the site, as well as to any other info someone wants to get me. } not Courtney } Fluid in drag. :) Brian

Fluid fluidly flowed--

quoted 2 lines } Sounds like a great idea. Im not, however, familiar with Mosaic - can

> } Sounds like a great idea. Im not, however, familiar with Mosaic - can > } someone explain it?

And Brian B blatantly belched--

quoted 8 lines I don't have a FAQ handy, but basically, it's a graphical tool to view

> I don't have a FAQ handy, but basically, it's a graphical tool to view > multimedia hypertext documents distributed over the internet - imagine > gopher on acid :) It seemlessly integrated inlined or external images, > sound files, even movies. > > How do you access it? The best way is to have direct access to a > machine running X windows, a Mac, or a PC running Windows directly > connected to the net.

Let's not confuse folks, here. WWW is the World Wide Web. Mosaic is one of several "browsers" or "WWW clients" you use to access information on the Web. Using the word Mosaic to describe all such browsers is akin to using Xerox to describe all photocopiers or Coke to describe all colas. (Heh, not more than 3 weeks ago I was asking Brian for help on this stuff, now I gotta teach it to him.. :-) Anyway, Mosaic is made by the good folks at NCSA. (you can read that any way you like). If you're using a PC and Windows, you'll need to be using Winsock (Trumpet WinSock is the free version) which provides a standard interface for Windows-based internet communication packages. Your computer has to be directly on the net *or* operating through a SLIP connection. I know of at least one IDM subscriber who has successfully run an emacs-based WWW client through a SLIP connection on an Amiga, but he didn't have enough memory to display all the graphics that are on the techno.stanford.edu home page. At 9600 baud it took a while to load, also. :( Anyway, on the PC a much better, but not as pretty, client is Cello, available from fatty.law.cornell.edu. I would describe WWW as a graphical version of Gopher. It integrates with Gopher, actually, so when you access techno.stanford.edu via WWW, you are effectively using Gopher as you go through the menus that we haven't made up home pages for.

quoted 1 line For more info, and probably the FAQ, read comp.infosystems.www.

> For more info, and probably the FAQ, read comp.infosystems.www.

I put the FAQ up in pub/raves at techno last week.

quoted 1 line If you have any other questions, read the FAQ first, then mail me

> If you have any other questions, read the FAQ first, then mail me

To reiterate, be redundant, and repeat what was said-- replies on this topic should be kept on private email. To redeem myself, I'm providing this ObIDMtidbit: I believe someone mentioned the Golden Palominoes new single. I got a promo of the CD-5 and was rather impressed that this was coming from the drummer on David Letterman. I have to totally agree, though, about the overuse of the "panting woman" in the Enigma/Madonna/ Chavez/LordsOfAcid style. The 16 minute Bill Laswell ambient dub mix is really gerat musically, alternating between heavy dub and spacey ambient several times, but the moans, sighs, and squeals are too much. The PWOG mix thankfully eliminates most of the noises, but for some reason they chose to use played out breakbeats as the basis of the song, far less innovative than the Warriors usually are. Summary: If you get off on sexist dance music, or you can fool yourself into believing that the sex noises are crucial to the artwork, it's for you. Otherwise, steer clear. Mike

On Thu, 3 Mar 1994, Mike J. Brown wrote:

quoted 3 lines this ObIDMtidbit: I believe someone mentioned the Golden Palominoes new

> this ObIDMtidbit: I believe someone mentioned the Golden Palominoes new > single. I got a promo of the CD-5 and was rather impressed that this > was coming from the drummer on David Letterman.

This is a common mixup, but Anton Fier has nothing to do with David Letterman or Paul Shaffer. Anton Fig is the drummer in Letterman's band. Anton Fier played drums for the Feelies early on and has been involved with the New York Zorn/Laswell/Frith/blahblahblah muso circuit since the early to mid eighties. Golden Palominos is his framework for collaboration with the aforementioned musos and other occasionally well-known guest stars (which explains the remix circus on the single you mentioned). | Dave Walker, Detroit Art Services (DAS) | | "I don't read, I just guess" | | marmoset@msen.com -Happy Mondays, "Wrote For Luck" |

quoted 11 lines This is a common mixup, but Anton Fier has nothing to do with David

> > > This is a common mixup, but Anton Fier has nothing to do with David > > Letterman or Paul Shaffer. Anton Fig is the drummer in Letterman's band. > > Whew. Thanks for the info. I have a feeling we'll be hearing more > about the single on alt.rave and rec.music.misc, so get ready to repeat > yourself. > > Mike > >

This thread has gone on too long already but I'd like to add that Anton Fier also played percussion on Herbie Hancock's _Rockit_ album and tour. I know, I have the video! So it kind of ties into idm after all...well maybe not. hee. Tony Ramos : inter/active 384 E.17th Ave : ramos.15@osu.edu, aramos@cgrg.ohio-state.edu Columbus, OH 43201 : ** computer-mediated environment design ** (614)299-9529 : ** indigo group ** A C E C ** vintage video **