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2000-01-06 14:07ISDS (idm) Alternative IDM definitions
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2000-01-06 14:07ISDSSince the definition 'Intelligent Dance Music' has provoked such, ahem, debate, (as if it
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Since the definition 'Intelligent Dance Music' has provoked such, ahem, debate, (as if it really matters) I suggest we change IDM's meaning to something more palatable. Possibilities: Impressively Difficult Music (a personal favourite) Impossible Dream Music Inconsistently Dark Music Impenetrably Disorganised Music Internal Drive Music Involving Design Music It's Dat Music! I Don't Mind In Deep Murk Incredibly Drunk Musicians Inedible Donner Meat Illinois Dunk Machine Interesting Dungarees, Mate I Despise Marshmallows etc. etc. James Roberts www.mp3.com/isds --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-01-06 20:09Cesium5Hz@aol.comYo, what about Incredible Discotronic Malevolence. Personally, I love the music but I thin
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Yo, what about Incredible Discotronic Malevolence. Personally, I love the music but I think the label for this form is too highly genre-rised. Why can't it simply be Electronic Listening Music - as the Artificial Intelligence Series sought out to be? By removing the term *intelligent* from it we can free it from the pangs of elitism and expand the boundaries of this musical form. Not to detract from the *intelligence* that embodies the sound, however allowing a more less rigid way of letting the music speak for itself. My rant for the week. A_Zed --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-01-06 20:27eric hill>By removing the term *intelligent* from it we can free it from the pangs >of elitism and
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quoted 2 lines By removing the term *intelligent* from it we can free it from the pangs>By removing the term *intelligent* from it we can free it from the pangs >of elitism and expand the boundaries of this musical form.
how do you figure? i'm not friends with *everybody* or anything, but i don't know of (or have read about) any people who _make_ the music that this list discusses who refer to their chosen style(s) as "IDM." eric onnow: melvins, "stag" (atlantic) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-01-06 20:24chad mossholderI Don't Mind what you call it . . . . >From: Cesium5Hz@aol.com >To: isds@robertsyork.frees
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I Don't Mind what you call it . . . .
quoted 25 lines From: Cesium5Hz@aol.com>From: Cesium5Hz@aol.com >To: isds@robertsyork.freeserve.co.uk, idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: (idm) Alternative IDM definitions >Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 15:09:49 EST > >Yo, what about Incredible Discotronic Malevolence. > >Personally, I love the music but I think the label for this form is too >highly genre-rised. Why can't it simply be Electronic Listening Music - as >the Artificial Intelligence Series sought out to be? By removing the term >*intelligent* from it we can free it from the pangs of elitism and expand >the >boundaries of this musical form. Not to detract from the *intelligence* >that >embodies the sound, however allowing a more less rigid way of letting the >music speak for itself. > >My rant for the week. > >A_Zed > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2000-01-06 21:00Joshua Brown> Yo, what about Incredible Discotronic Malevolence. > or how about Introvert Daft Mucus >
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quoted 2 lines Yo, what about Incredible Discotronic Malevolence.> Yo, what about Incredible Discotronic Malevolence. >
or how about Introvert Daft Mucus
quoted 3 lines Personally, I love the music but I think the label for this form is too> Personally, I love the music but I think the label for this form is too > highly genre-rised. Why can't it simply be Electronic Listening Music >
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2000-01-06 23:00Jeffrey BarszczI personally like "Indestructable Dwarf Music".....i've acutually titled a number of IDM m
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I personally like "Indestructable Dwarf Music".....i've acutually titled a number of IDM mixtapes i've made for people with that. Anyway, just some worthless crap i thought i'd throw in to a worthless thread. Worthlessly yours, Jeff Jeff Barszcz ________________________ glueslabs@earthlink.net ICQ: 59895018 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-01-06 23:27Guai Lo>Personally, I love the music but I think the label for this form is too >highly genre-ris
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quoted 4 lines Personally, I love the music but I think the label for this form is too>Personally, I love the music but I think the label for this form is too >highly genre-rised. Why can't it simply be Electronic Listening Music - as >the Artificial Intelligence Series sought out to be? By removing the term >*intelligent* from it we can free it from the pangs of elitism and expand
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quoted 1 line boundaries of this musical form. Not to detract from the *intelligence*>boundaries of this musical form. Not to detract from the *intelligence*
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quoted 2 lines embodies the sound, however allowing a more less rigid way of letting the>embodies the sound, however allowing a more less rigid way of letting the >music speak for itself.
I agree. The very term IDM causes hysterical laughter in my circle of friends, especially when they realize what kind of music it is supposed to describe. For someone to run around calling the type of music they listen to 'Intelligent' is annoying enough, but to call it 'Dance' when it sounds like MoM or autechre is proposterous. Cheers for bringing up the AI series, since that's always been, for me, the best thing that came out of this whole thing. It's something I'll compare other music to. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-01-07 17:00Roy G Biv-- On Thu, 6 Jan 2000 15:09:49 Cesium5Hz wrote: >Personally, I love the music but I think
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-- On Thu, 6 Jan 2000 15:09:49 Cesium5Hz wrote:
quoted 2 lines Personally, I love the music but I think the >label for this form is too>Personally, I love the music but I think the >label for this form is too >highly genre-rised. Why can't it simply be >Electronic Listening Music - as
isn't that redundant? all music is to be listened to, even if you dance to it. thus it's really just 'electronic music' I know most IDMers don't like the term 'electronica' personally I'm all for 'Indie Digital Music' (which I heard was coined by kid606) or maybe just 'Computer Music' as far as I'm concerned the factor that unifies the different types of music that fall under the term IDM is the use of the computer in making it. Either for digital audio/sound processing or MIDI or both. -roy Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-01-07 17:22wellsOn Fri, 7 Jan 2000, Roy G Biv wrote: > thus it's really just 'electronic music' > I know m
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quoted 7 lines thus it's really just 'electronic music'> thus it's really just 'electronic music' > I know most IDMers don't like the term 'electronica' > > personally I'm all for 'Indie Digital Music' > (which I heard was coined by kid606) > > or maybe just 'Computer Music'
I just use "Music I Listen To That Makes Me Better Than You." It's a bit wordy, but it gets the point across in everyday conversation. - wells oliver / s0ewoliv@titan.vcu.edu " The ball is round. The game lasts ninety minutes. This much is fact. Everything else is just theory. " --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-01-07 19:41Roy G BivThat works for me, if I was speaking to a rock&roll listener. However, I will postulate th
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That works for me, if I was speaking to a rock&roll listener. However, I will postulate that jazz, classical, & world music listeners are better than IDM listeners. ;) -- On Fri, 7 Jan 2000 12:22:20 wells wrote:
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quoted 1 line I just use "Music I Listen To That Makes Me Better Than You.">I just use "Music I Listen To That Makes Me Better Than You."
quoted 7 lines thus it's really just 'electronic music'>> thus it's really just 'electronic music' >> I know most IDMers don't like the term >> 'electronica' >> >> personally I'm all for 'Indie Digital Music' >> (which I heard was coined by kid606) >> >> or maybe just 'Computer Music'
quoted 12 lines It's a bit wordy, but it gets the point across in everyday conversation.>It's a bit wordy, but it gets the point across in everyday conversation. > >- wells oliver / s0ewoliv@titan.vcu.edu > " The ball is round. The game lasts ninety minutes. > This much is fact. Everything else is just theory. " > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2000-01-07 20:19ninjah@home.comwhy even bother to get hung up on who are better than who .. its getting to be that a lot
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why even bother to get hung up on who are better than who .. its getting to be that a lot of IDM listeners are becoming pretty elitist .. give it up, listen to music that you like .. whether it takes talent or not, as long as its good and gives your ears a nice massage .. unless its country/pop .. then you can just straight goto hell =p -pheks monkey
quoted 23 lines That works for me, if I was speaking to a rock&roll listener. However, I> That works for me, if I was speaking to a rock&roll listener. However, I > will postulate that jazz, classical, & world music listeners are better > than IDM listeners. ;) > > -- > > On Fri, 7 Jan 2000 12:22:20 wells wrote: > >On Fri, 7 Jan 2000, Roy G Biv wrote: > > >I just use "Music I Listen To That Makes Me Better Than You." > > >> thus it's really just 'electronic music' > >> I know most IDMers don't like the term >> 'electronica' > >> > >> personally I'm all for 'Indie Digital Music' > >> (which I heard was coined by kid606) > >> > >> or maybe just 'Computer Music' > > > >It's a bit wordy, but it gets the point across in everyday conversation. > > > >- wells oliver / s0ewoliv@titan.vcu.edu
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2000-01-07 21:03Galen BealsHow about: Instrumental Drum & Melody or Iintense digital mangeling. -=GB=- ISDS wrote: >
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How about: Instrumental Drum & Melody or Iintense digital mangeling. -=GB=- ISDS wrote:
quoted 26 lines Since the definition 'Intelligent Dance Music' has provoked such, ahem,> Since the definition 'Intelligent Dance Music' has provoked such, ahem, > debate, (as if it really matters) I suggest we change IDM's meaning to > something more palatable. Possibilities: > > Impressively Difficult Music (a personal favourite) > Impossible Dream Music > Inconsistently Dark Music > Impenetrably Disorganised Music > Internal Drive Music > Involving Design Music > It's Dat Music! > I Don't Mind > In Deep Murk > Incredibly Drunk Musicians > Inedible Donner Meat > Illinois Dunk Machine > Interesting Dungarees, Mate > I Despise Marshmallows > etc. etc. > > James Roberts > www.mp3.com/isds > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
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2000-01-07 21:37Quinn Hanrattyhow about "indie techno"? 3 words is too much. i like this better. Quinn -----------------
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how about "indie techno"? 3 words is too much. i like this better. Quinn --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-01-08 11:11Cesium5Hz@aol.comIn a message dated 8/01/00 1:00:44 roy-g-biv@eudoramail.com writes: Electronic Listening M
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In a message dated 8/01/00 1:00:44 roy-g-biv@eudoramail.com writes: Electronic Listening Music
quoted 1 line isn't that redundant? all music is to be listened to, even if you dance to> isn't that redundant? all music is to be listened to, even if you dance to
it. Not really, there is listening music; and there is listening music! This is not to necessarily suggest that it is not dance music, however it implies that the music is specifically produced for a more total *AURAL* experience. This is why if you look on the back of the Artificial Intelligence series and many other class 'idm' style music have on the back of the Cds as *File Under Electronic Listening Music*.
quoted 5 lines thus it's really just 'electronic music'> thus it's really just 'electronic music' > I know most IDMers don't like the term 'electronica' > > personally I'm all for 'Indie Digital Music' > (which I heard was coined by kid606)
Hey, maybe all the kids will get into it too - becomes a fad, like the term 'indie'. ;`) A_Zed --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-01-09 04:28Alex QuintanaOn Thu, 6 Jan 2000 15:09:49 Cesium5Hz wrote: >isn't that redundant? all music is to be lis
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On Thu, 6 Jan 2000 15:09:49 Cesium5Hz wrote:
quoted 2 lines isn't that redundant? all music is to be listened to, even if you dance>isn't that redundant? all music is to be listened to, even if you dance >to it.
quoted 2 lines thus it's really just 'electronic music'>thus it's really just 'electronic music' >I know most IDMers don't like the term 'electronica'
I think the thing behind Electronic Listening Music is that most people when they think of electronic music, they think of techno.. Which is meant to be danced to, and played at raves, clubs, etc... Where as, electronic listening music, IDM, or what have you, is just meant to be listened to. Not rocked to, or danced to .. but listened to, like you'd listen to classical music or whatever you listen to. This leads into the explanation of the AI compilation cover art with the guy sitting back in his chair, and the text that says to listen to it while being comfortable, etc. etc. The 'listening' is put in there to destroy the assumption that this music is techno, I believe. .auddpltes << "...in whatever you do, if you can't break new ground, what's the point?" - James Cameron Hillie (hillie@amigascne.org) http://www.atonal.org/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-01-09 12:02Cesium5Hz@aol.comIn a message dated 9/01/00 12:25:09 hillie@atonal.org writes: > On Thu, 6 Jan 2000 15:09:4
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In a message dated 9/01/00 12:25:09 hillie@atonal.org writes:
quoted 6 lines On Thu, 6 Jan 2000 15:09:49 Cesium5Hz wrote:> On Thu, 6 Jan 2000 15:09:49 Cesium5Hz wrote: > >isn't that redundant? all music is to be listened to, even if you dance > >to it. > > >thus it's really just 'electronic music' > >I know most IDMers don't like the term 'electronica'
Hillie, I didn't actually write this. It was actually Roy-g-biv@eudora. My actual reply is below, and thank you for proving my point exactly with your post. Anyway enough of this thread for now. We know what music we are listening to, and that's what matters - not the name given to it. The feeling I get is that most of this list don't actually give 2 ####s about the term idm, given the names elicited by the 3 letters - The best one being 'It Doesn't Matter' . Maybe we should all stick to idm as a mystery term, and when people ask you what it means, just say the music is labelled " "I Don't Mind", or "I Dig Music"... etc etc... and just to confuse the hell out of them even more, just say "and its an alternative title for Electronic Listening Music!" ;`)
quoted 2 lines isn't that redundant? all music is to be listened to, even if you dance>isn't that redundant? all music is to be listened to, even if you dance >to it.
quoted 2 lines thus it's really just 'electronic music'>thus it's really just 'electronic music' >I know most IDMers don't like the term 'electronica'
Not really, there is listening music; and there is listening music! This is not to necessarily suggest that it is not dance music, however it implies that the music is specifically produced for a more total *AURAL* experience. This is why if you look on the back of the Artificial Intelligence series and many other class 'idm' style music have on the back of the Cds as *File Under Electronic Listening Music*. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-01-09 12:10Cesium5Hz@aol.comIn a message dated 9/01/00 12:25:09 hillie@atonal.org writes: > On Thu, 6 Jan 2000 15:09:4
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In a message dated 9/01/00 12:25:09 hillie@atonal.org writes:
quoted 6 lines On Thu, 6 Jan 2000 15:09:49 Cesium5Hz wrote:> On Thu, 6 Jan 2000 15:09:49 Cesium5Hz wrote: > >isn't that redundant? all music is to be listened to, even if you dance > >to it. > > >thus it's really just 'electronic music' > >I know most IDMers don't like the term 'electronica'
Hillie, I didn't actually write this. It was actually Roy-g-biv@eudora. My actual reply is below, and thank you for proving my point exactly with your post. Anyway enough of this thread for now. We know what music we are listening to, and that's what matters - not the name given to it. The feeling I get is that most of this list don't actually give 2 ####s about the term idm, given the names elicited by the 3 letters - The best one being 'It Doesn't Matter' . Maybe we should all stick to idm as a mystery term, and when people ask you what it means, just say the music is labelled " "I Don't Mind", or "I Dig Music"... etc etc... and just to confuse the hell out of them even more, just say "and its an alternative title for Electronic Listening Music!" ;`)
quoted 2 lines isn't that redundant? all music is to be listened to, even if you dance>isn't that redundant? all music is to be listened to, even if you dance >to it.
quoted 2 lines thus it's really just 'electronic music'>thus it's really just 'electronic music' >I know most IDMers don't like the term 'electronica'
Not really, there is listening music; and there is listening music! This is not to necessarily suggest that it is not dance music, however it implies that the music is specifically produced for a more total *AURAL* experience. This is why if you look on the back of the Artificial Intelligence series and many other class 'idm' style music have on the back of the Cds as *File Under Electronic Listening Music*. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-01-09 16:17_>>>____Joelo NgthorneWritten by Cesium5Hz@aol.com Subject: Re: (idm) Re: idm Digest 7 Jan 2000 04:19:40 -0000 I
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Written by Cesium5Hz@aol.com Subject: Re: (idm) Re: idm Digest 7 Jan 2000 04:19:40 -0000 Issue 144 Message-ID: <a5.a5bef104.25a877b0@aol.com> In a message dated 8/01/00 12:21:18 pelletier@jprc.com writes:
quoted 7 lines Oh come on! We should instead *celebrate* our elitism and choose a term> Oh come on! We should instead *celebrate* our elitism and choose a term > which makes us look even more snobbish. How about "Intellectual's Dance > Music"!?! > More subtle might me "Idiosyncratic Dance Music". We could all give each > other > the 'nudge, nudge, wink, wink' when the plebes ask us what idiosyncratic > means.
How about "Idiots Discussing Music"? "Interminable Didactic Mucus"? "Indecorous Digital Masturbation"?, the possibilites are endless _>>>____Joelo Ngthorne ICQ #5984831 ____________________________ http://www.onoksid.freeserve.co.uk "The public is like a woman, it wants to be fucked" - Louis-Ferdinand Celine --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
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2000-01-27 07:02BEETLE1027@aol.comand what about // indescribable damaged melodies indestructable dangerous mechanism inacti
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