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aw man, so it wasn't some hot new AFX shit? as far as i'm concerned his last album was 'drukqs'. only thing since then has been the analord stuff, a cute 12" series side project thing - SOME of which was then collected on a CD. when is RDJ going to drop some new, serious, death-defying, genre-refining shit? ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Brandon Tallent" <btallent@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 09:37:32 -0700

quoted 10 lines Hey I recognize the track on that youtube video...not sure who the

>Hey I recognize the track on that youtube video...not sure who the >artist is but it was an an old (98 maybe?) dieselboy mixtape called "A >solider story". > >On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 8:07 PM, chthonic streams ><chthonic@chthonicstreams.com> wrote: >> this bit on youtube sounds pretty mental and has some crazy dancing animals >> too. >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRsDuqSVS4A

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2008/4/29 chthonic <chthonic@chthonicstreams.com>:

quoted 1 line aw man, so it wasn't some hot new AFX shit?

> aw man, so it wasn't some hot new AFX shit?

Naah, this is strictly drum'n'bass he's playing in that Youtube video. The harder kind though. That first tune is called The Drained by Vertigo, released on Dropping Science, which is the shizzle when it comes to dnb labels btw. That last one in the vid is some of that typical "darkstep" hardcore beat banging style Evol Intent are so well known for. Maybe it's time to check out some of those DJ's playing on that radio station I have in my footer, if you dig that kind of material. :) -- "progress doesn't come from early risers progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things" http://n3wjack.net http://www.jungletrain.net - 24/7 dnb radio station

n3wjack wrote:

quoted 12 lines 2008/4/29 chthonic <chthonic@chthonicstreams.com>:

> 2008/4/29 chthonic <chthonic@chthonicstreams.com>: > > >> aw man, so it wasn't some hot new AFX shit? >> > > > Naah, this is strictly drum'n'bass he's playing in that Youtube video. The > harder kind though. > That first tune is called The Drained by Vertigo, released on Dropping > Science, which is the shizzle when it comes to dnb labels btw. >

cool, tnx for the id. great great tune. aparently half of vertigo is Danny Breaks, who is one of my favorites

quoted 7 lines That last one in the vid is some of that typical "darkstep" hardcore beat

> That last one in the vid is some of that typical "darkstep" hardcore beat > banging style Evol Intent are so well known for. > > Maybe it's time to check out some of those DJ's playing on that radio > station I have in my footer, if you dig that kind of material. :) > >

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heres the link to the mp3. got it off another mail list. http://garethmixes.com/droid/afx/ sound quality is good enough. not sound board but a good audience recording. go crazy people. On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 1:05 PM, Josh Steiner <josh@vitriolix.com> wrote:

quoted 47 lines n3wjack wrote:

> n3wjack wrote: > > > 2008/4/29 chthonic <chthonic@chthonicstreams.com>: > > > > > > > > > aw man, so it wasn't some hot new AFX shit? > > > > > > > > > > > > Naah, this is strictly drum'n'bass he's playing in that Youtube video. > > The > > harder kind though. > > That first tune is called The Drained by Vertigo, released on Dropping > > Science, which is the shizzle when it comes to dnb labels btw. > > > > > > cool, tnx for the id. great great tune. aparently half of vertigo is > Danny Breaks, who is one of my favorites > > That last one in the vid is some of that typical "darkstep" hardcore beat > > banging style Evol Intent are so well known for. > > > > Maybe it's time to check out some of those DJ's playing on that radio > > station I have in my footer, if you dig that kind of material. :) > > > > > > > > > -- > ________________________________________________________________ > tasty electronic music vittles -- bluevitriol.com > the only music blog you need -- playtherecords.com > you are the dj. interactive music -- improbableorchestra.com > random observations of the bizarre -- vitriolix.com > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

heres the link directly to the mp3 for those of you who might be confused about the last link. http://garethmixes.com/droid/afx/aphex%20twin%20-%20coachela%2008.mp3 if there are other mp3s out there let us know. On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 3:08 PM, <ytbmusic@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 59 lines heres the link to the mp3. got it off another mail list.

> heres the link to the mp3. got it off another mail list. > http://garethmixes.com/droid/afx/ > > sound quality is good enough. not sound board but a good audience > recording. go crazy people. > > > > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 1:05 PM, Josh Steiner <josh@vitriolix.com> wrote: > > > n3wjack wrote: > > > > > 2008/4/29 chthonic <chthonic@chthonicstreams.com>: > > > > > > > > > > > > > aw man, so it wasn't some hot new AFX shit? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Naah, this is strictly drum'n'bass he's playing in that Youtube video. > > > The > > > harder kind though. > > > That first tune is called The Drained by Vertigo, released on Dropping > > > Science, which is the shizzle when it comes to dnb labels btw. > > > > > > > > > > cool, tnx for the id. great great tune. aparently half of vertigo is > > Danny Breaks, who is one of my favorites > > > > That last one in the vid is some of that typical "darkstep" hardcore > > > beat > > > banging style Evol Intent are so well known for. > > > > > > Maybe it's time to check out some of those DJ's playing on that radio > > > station I have in my footer, if you dig that kind of material. :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ________________________________________________________________ > > tasty electronic music vittles -- bluevitriol.com > > the only music blog you need -- playtherecords.com > > you are the dj. interactive music -- improbableorchestra.com > > random observations of the bizarre -- vitriolix.com > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > >

I don't get it... sounds like a hip hop dj. On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 11:52 PM, <ytbmusic@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 68 lines heres the link directly to the mp3 for those of you who might be confused

> heres the link directly to the mp3 for those of you who might be confused > about the last link. > http://garethmixes.com/droid/afx/aphex%20twin%20-%20coachela%2008.mp3 > > if there are other mp3s out there let us know. > > On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 3:08 PM, <ytbmusic@gmail.com> wrote: > >> heres the link to the mp3. got it off another mail list. >> http://garethmixes.com/droid/afx/ >> >> sound quality is good enough. not sound board but a good audience >> recording. go crazy people. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 1:05 PM, Josh Steiner <josh@vitriolix.com> wrote: >> >> > n3wjack wrote: >> > >> > > 2008/4/29 chthonic <chthonic@chthonicstreams.com>: >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > aw man, so it wasn't some hot new AFX shit? >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Naah, this is strictly drum'n'bass he's playing in that Youtube video. >> > > The >> > > harder kind though. >> > > That first tune is called The Drained by Vertigo, released on Dropping >> > > Science, which is the shizzle when it comes to dnb labels btw. >> > > >> > > >> > >> > cool, tnx for the id. great great tune. aparently half of vertigo is >> > Danny Breaks, who is one of my favorites >> > >> > That last one in the vid is some of that typical "darkstep" hardcore >> > > beat >> > > banging style Evol Intent are so well known for. >> > > >> > > Maybe it's time to check out some of those DJ's playing on that radio >> > > station I have in my footer, if you dig that kind of material. :) >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > ________________________________________________________________ >> > tasty electronic music vittles -- bluevitriol.com >> > the only music blog you need -- playtherecords.com >> > you are the dj. interactive music -- improbableorchestra.com >> > random observations of the bizarre -- vitriolix.com >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> > >> > >> >

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then you didn't listen to the whole set // just my guess -- badtastesucks.com badtaste4life.com animalswithinanimals.com On Sat, May 3, 2008 11:53 pm, Michael Kuszynski wrote: --> I don't get it... sounds like a hip hop dj. --> --> On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 11:52 PM, <ytbmusic@gmail.com> wrote: -->> heres the link directly to the mp3 for those of you who might be confused -->> about the last link. -->> http://garethmixes.com/droid/afx/aphex%20twin%20-%20coachela%2008.mp3 -->> -->> if there are other mp3s out there let us know. -->> -->> On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 3:08 PM, <ytbmusic@gmail.com> wrote: -->> -->>> heres the link to the mp3. got it off another mail list. -->>> http://garethmixes.com/droid/afx/ -->>> -->>> sound quality is good enough. not sound board but a good audience -->>> recording. go crazy people. -->>> -->>> -->>> -->>> On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 1:05 PM, Josh Steiner <josh@vitriolix.com> wrote: -->>> -->>> > n3wjack wrote: -->>> > -->>> > > 2008/4/29 chthonic <chthonic@chthonicstreams.com>: -->>> > > -->>> > > -->>> > > -->>> > > > aw man, so it wasn't some hot new AFX shit? -->>> > > > -->>> > > > -->>> > > -->>> > > -->>> > > Naah, this is strictly drum'n'bass he's playing in that Youtube video. -->>> > > The -->>> > > harder kind though. -->>> > > That first tune is called The Drained by Vertigo, released on Dropping -->>> > > Science, which is the shizzle when it comes to dnb labels btw. -->>> > > -->>> > > -->>> > -->>> > cool, tnx for the id. great great tune. aparently half of vertigo is -->>> > Danny Breaks, who is one of my favorites -->>> > -->>> > That last one in the vid is some of that typical "darkstep" hardcore -->>> > > beat -->>> > > banging style Evol Intent are so well known for. -->>> > > -->>> > > Maybe it's time to check out some of those DJ's playing on that radio -->>> > > station I have in my footer, if you dig that kind of material. :) -->>> > > -->>> > > -->>> > > -->>> > -->>> > -->>> > -- -->>> > ________________________________________________________________ -->>> > tasty electronic music vittles -- bluevitriol.com -->>> > the only music blog you need -- playtherecords.com -->>> > you are the dj. interactive music -- improbableorchestra.com -->>> > random observations of the bizarre -- vitriolix.com -->>> > -->>> > -->>> > -->>> > -->>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- -->>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org -->>> > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org -->>> > -->>> > -->>> -->> --> --> --> --> -- --> --- --> Michael Kuszynski --> kuszynski@gmail.com --> info@planerecordings.com --> http://www.planerecordings.com --> New York, NY --> --> --------------------------------------------------------------------- --> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org --> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org --> --> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

true. he plays some hiphop in the beginning but it turns jungle starting somewhere in the middle. theres just alittle hiphop at the top. its easy to get past. i was surprised at first too but trust me its him. On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 9:28 PM, dr. butcher m.d. <drbmd@badtaste4life.com> wrote:

quoted 111 lines then you didn't listen to the whole set // just my guess

> then you didn't listen to the whole set // just my guess > > -- > badtastesucks.com > badtaste4life.com > animalswithinanimals.com > > On Sat, May 3, 2008 11:53 pm, Michael Kuszynski wrote: > --> I don't get it... sounds like a hip hop dj. > --> > --> On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 11:52 PM, <ytbmusic@gmail.com> wrote: > -->> heres the link directly to the mp3 for those of you who might be > confused > -->> about the last link. > -->> http://garethmixes.com/droid/afx/aphex%20twin%20-%20coachela%2008.mp3 > -->> > -->> if there are other mp3s out there let us know. > -->> > -->> On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 3:08 PM, <ytbmusic@gmail.com> wrote: > -->> > -->>> heres the link to the mp3. got it off another mail list. > -->>> http://garethmixes.com/droid/afx/ > -->>> > -->>> sound quality is good enough. not sound board but a good audience > -->>> recording. go crazy people. > -->>> > -->>> > -->>> > -->>> On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 1:05 PM, Josh Steiner <josh@vitriolix.com> > wrote: > -->>> > -->>> > n3wjack wrote: > -->>> > > -->>> > > 2008/4/29 chthonic <chthonic@chthonicstreams.com>: > -->>> > > > -->>> > > > -->>> > > > -->>> > > > aw man, so it wasn't some hot new AFX shit? > -->>> > > > > -->>> > > > > -->>> > > > -->>> > > > -->>> > > Naah, this is strictly drum'n'bass he's playing in that Youtube > video. > -->>> > > The > -->>> > > harder kind though. > -->>> > > That first tune is called The Drained by Vertigo, released on > Dropping > -->>> > > Science, which is the shizzle when it comes to dnb labels btw. > -->>> > > > -->>> > > > -->>> > > -->>> > cool, tnx for the id. great great tune. aparently half of > vertigo is > -->>> > Danny Breaks, who is one of my favorites > -->>> > > -->>> > That last one in the vid is some of that typical "darkstep" > hardcore > -->>> > > beat > -->>> > > banging style Evol Intent are so well known for. > -->>> > > > -->>> > > Maybe it's time to check out some of those DJ's playing on that > radio > -->>> > > station I have in my footer, if you dig that kind of material. > :) > -->>> > > > -->>> > > > -->>> > > > -->>> > > -->>> > > -->>> > -- > -->>> > ________________________________________________________________ > -->>> > tasty electronic music vittles -- bluevitriol.com > -->>> > the only music blog you need -- playtherecords.com > -->>> > you are the dj. interactive music -- improbableorchestra.com > -->>> > random observations of the bizarre -- vitriolix.com > -->>> > > -->>> > > -->>> > > -->>> > > -->>> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > -->>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > -->>> > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > -->>> > > -->>> > > -->>> > -->> > --> > --> > --> > --> -- > --> --- > --> Michael Kuszynski > --> kuszynski@gmail.com > --> info@planerecordings.com > --> http://www.planerecordings.com > --> New York, NY > --> > --> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > --> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > --> > --> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

I am halfway, and the first half was a combination of mediocre instrumental hip hop and flatlining tech-house that was poorly dj'ed. Not really sure what this has to do with Aphex Twin and if it's some nasty little richard james joke. On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 12:28 AM, dr. butcher m.d. <drbmd@badtaste4life.com> wrote:

quoted 102 lines then you didn't listen to the whole set // just my guess

> then you didn't listen to the whole set // just my guess > > -- > badtastesucks.com > badtaste4life.com > animalswithinanimals.com > > On Sat, May 3, 2008 11:53 pm, Michael Kuszynski wrote: > --> I don't get it... sounds like a hip hop dj. > --> > --> On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 11:52 PM, <ytbmusic@gmail.com> wrote: > -->> heres the link directly to the mp3 for those of you who might be confused > -->> about the last link. > -->> http://garethmixes.com/droid/afx/aphex%20twin%20-%20coachela%2008.mp3 > -->> > -->> if there are other mp3s out there let us know. > -->> > -->> On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 3:08 PM, <ytbmusic@gmail.com> wrote: > -->> > -->>> heres the link to the mp3. got it off another mail list. > -->>> http://garethmixes.com/droid/afx/ > -->>> > -->>> sound quality is good enough. not sound board but a good audience > -->>> recording. go crazy people. > -->>> > -->>> > -->>> > -->>> On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 1:05 PM, Josh Steiner <josh@vitriolix.com> wrote: > -->>> > -->>> > n3wjack wrote: > -->>> > > -->>> > > 2008/4/29 chthonic <chthonic@chthonicstreams.com>: > -->>> > > > -->>> > > > -->>> > > > -->>> > > > aw man, so it wasn't some hot new AFX shit? > -->>> > > > > -->>> > > > > -->>> > > > -->>> > > > -->>> > > Naah, this is strictly drum'n'bass he's playing in that Youtube video. > -->>> > > The > -->>> > > harder kind though. > -->>> > > That first tune is called The Drained by Vertigo, released on Dropping > -->>> > > Science, which is the shizzle when it comes to dnb labels btw. > -->>> > > > -->>> > > > -->>> > > -->>> > cool, tnx for the id. great great tune. aparently half of vertigo is > -->>> > Danny Breaks, who is one of my favorites > -->>> > > -->>> > That last one in the vid is some of that typical "darkstep" hardcore > -->>> > > beat > -->>> > > banging style Evol Intent are so well known for. > -->>> > > > -->>> > > Maybe it's time to check out some of those DJ's playing on that radio > -->>> > > station I have in my footer, if you dig that kind of material. :) > -->>> > > > -->>> > > > -->>> > > > -->>> > > -->>> > > -->>> > -- > -->>> > ________________________________________________________________ > -->>> > tasty electronic music vittles -- bluevitriol.com > -->>> > the only music blog you need -- playtherecords.com > -->>> > you are the dj. interactive music -- improbableorchestra.com > -->>> > random observations of the bizarre -- vitriolix.com > -->>> > > -->>> > > -->>> > > -->>> > > -->>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > -->>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > -->>> > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > -->>> > > -->>> > > -->>> > -->> > --> > --> > --> > --> -- > --> --- > --> Michael Kuszynski > --> kuszynski@gmail.com > --> info@planerecordings.com > --> http://www.planerecordings.com > --> New York, NY > --> > --> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > --> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > --> > --> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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Michael Kuszynski wrote:

quoted 3 lines Not really sure what this has to do with Aphex Twin and if it's some

> Not really sure what this has to do with Aphex Twin and if it's some > nasty little richard james joke. >

Dude.. it is a DJ set. Relax. If you are so concerned maybe you should circulate a petition or something... ,g -- greg j. smith http://serialconsign.com - design / research blog http://vagueterrain.net - digital arts quarterly http://twitter.com/serial_consign - twitter smith@serialconsign.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

he he On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 9:59 AM, Greg J. Smith <greg.smith@utoronto.ca> wrote:

quoted 27 lines Michael Kuszynski wrote:

> Michael Kuszynski wrote: > > > Not really sure what this has to do with Aphex Twin and if it's some > > nasty little richard james joke. > > > > > Dude.. it is a DJ set. Relax. > > If you are so concerned maybe you should circulate a petition or > something... > > > ,g > > -- > greg j. smith > http://serialconsign.com - design / research blog > http://vagueterrain.net - digital arts quarterly > http://twitter.com/serial_consign - twitter > smith@serialconsign.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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IDM-Lister listened to a DJ-set by AFX and was shocked to find hiphop and tech-house do not sound amazing, not even when spun by Richard D. James. petitions are being filled, cds and vinyls burnt, never will the AFX logo be worn by a single IDM-List-member. wheres the queue for burning afx on a stake? do we get our free bucket of napalm too? YFCSPOS!! 2008/5/4 neil wiernik <neil.wiernik@gmail.com>:

quoted 40 lines he he

> he he > > On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 9:59 AM, Greg J. Smith <greg.smith@utoronto.ca> > wrote: > > > Michael Kuszynski wrote: > > > > > Not really sure what this has to do with Aphex Twin and if it's some > > > nasty little richard james joke. > > > > > > > > Dude.. it is a DJ set. Relax. > > > > If you are so concerned maybe you should circulate a petition or > > something... > > > > > > ,g > > > > -- > > greg j. smith > > http://serialconsign.com - design / research blog > > http://vagueterrain.net - digital arts quarterly > > http://twitter.com/serial_consign - twitter > > smith@serialconsign.com > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > -- > ============================ > www.phoniq.net > www.vagueterrain.net > www.neilsnodes.blogspot.com >

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Esa Ruoho wrote:

quoted 1 line never will the AFX logo be worn by a single IDM-List-member.

> never will the AFX logo be worn by a single IDM-List-member.

So, errr... oops, I guess... -_-; Now where do I go to hand in my IDM membership card? -- Kurt Bernhard Pruenner --- Haendelstrasse 17 --- 4020 Linz --- Austria .......It might be written "Mindfuck", but it's spelt "L-A-I-N"....... np: Sage Francis - Underground For Dummies (Human The Death Dance) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

the desk to apply for the idm membership card or to return it is right inside the incinerator booth. its also where you get to sign the AFX-isnt-allowed-to-play-whatever-he-wants-to-play-cos-he-doesnt-owe-you-shit -petition. seriously tho, what do you people want him to play? unreleased autechre tracks? conduct a 3 hour djset comprising of his newest supercollider/maxmsp/reaktor ensembles? do a little live PD as his djset? "i am offended. he didnt play music that was IDM enough"... 2008/5/4 Kurt Pruenner <leak@gmx.at>:

quoted 4 lines never will the AFX logo be worn by a single IDM-List-member.

> > never will the AFX logo be worn by a single IDM-List-member. > So, errr... oops, I guess... -_-; > Now where do I go to hand in my IDM membership card? >

Did he actually play any of his own music though? We all know he has a hard-drive of unreleased material, plus a fair amount of material he has released.. I haven't listened to the recording yet, but I am hoping for something more than just hip-hop. Of course he's allowed to play whatever he wants to play. But he's also trying to please the baying fans... William 2008/5/4 Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com>:

quoted 19 lines the desk to apply for the idm membership card or to return it is right

> the desk to apply for the idm membership card or to return it is right > inside the incinerator booth. its also where you get to sign the > > AFX-isnt-allowed-to-play-whatever-he-wants-to-play-cos-he-doesnt-owe-you-shit > -petition. > > seriously tho, what do you people want him to play? unreleased autechre > tracks? conduct a 3 hour djset comprising of his newest > supercollider/maxmsp/reaktor ensembles? do a little live PD as his djset? > > "i am offended. he didnt play music that was IDM enough"... > > 2008/5/4 Kurt Pruenner <leak@gmx.at>: > > > > never will the AFX logo be worn by a single IDM-List-member. > > So, errr... oops, I guess... -_-; > > Now where do I go to hand in my IDM membership card? > > >

yeah that would basically be my point of contention. if i go see a live show of an artist i like, i'd at least like to hear THEIR music. On May 4, 2008, at 11:34 AM, William Lebreton wrote:

quoted 35 lines Did he actually play any of his own music though? We all know he has a

> Did he actually play any of his own music though? We all know he has a > hard-drive of unreleased material, plus a fair amount of material he > has > released.. I haven't listened to the recording yet, but I am hoping > for > something more than just hip-hop. Of course he's allowed to play > whatever he > wants to play. But he's also trying to please the baying fans... > William > > 2008/5/4 Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com>: > >> the desk to apply for the idm membership card or to return it is >> right >> inside the incinerator booth. its also where you get to sign the >> >> AFX-isnt-allowed-to-play-whatever-he-wants-to-play-cos-he-doesnt- >> owe-you-shit >> -petition. >> >> seriously tho, what do you people want him to play? unreleased >> autechre >> tracks? conduct a 3 hour djset comprising of his newest >> supercollider/maxmsp/reaktor ensembles? do a little live PD as his >> djset? >> >> "i am offended. he didnt play music that was IDM enough"... >> >> 2008/5/4 Kurt Pruenner <leak@gmx.at>: >> >>>> never will the AFX logo be worn by a single IDM-List-member. >>> So, errr... oops, I guess... -_-; >>> Now where do I go to hand in my IDM membership card? >>> >>

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2008/5/4 chthonic streams <chthonic@chthonicstreams.com>:

quoted 3 lines yeah that would basically be my point of contention. if i go see a live

> yeah that would basically be my point of contention. if i go see a live > show of an artist i like, i'd at least like to hear THEIR music. >

That's usually the case with DJ sets. People spin some records, not necessarily their own. In most DJ cultures this is common. In fact, when it comes to drum'n'bass for instance the ones that do play only their own music are sometimes regarded as lame. Dillinja is probably the only one who does this. Paradox has a tendency to do this as well, but he tends to do very a-typical DJ sets anyway, since he's not really a DJ in the first place. I see that in breakcore circles artists are more into playing their own stuff, but in this case it's more of a performance than a DJ set. Which is also what AFX is I guess. I doubt his best skill is DJing, hence he isn't good at it. It's typical for electronic music though that good producers are called in to play DJ sets because their name brings in a lot of folks, but sometimes you're better off checking out a tru DJ, who can really create a vibe on the floor and play a good set, instead of just a bunch of records. -- "progress doesn't come from early risers progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things" http://n3wjack.net http://www.jungletrain.net - 24/7 dnb radio station

yeah but breakcore is terrible though, it's just music to drink to. On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 5:19 AM, n3wjack <n3wjack@n3wjack.net> wrote:

quoted 2 lines I see that in breakcore circles artists are more into playing their own

> I see that in breakcore circles artists are more into playing their own > stuff, but in this case it's more of a performance than a DJ set.

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i never drink and breakcore at the same time, it could cause serious injury. it's headbanging music for electroheads instead of metalheads. i went to a breakcore show and there was kind of a "nerd pit", all these guys in short hair and glasses up front going mental. i fucking love duran duran duran, enduser, ladyscraper, noisia, and some others. oh and i have not one but two venetian snares CDs on their way as we speak. On May 5, 2008, at 5:24 AM, Ed Hoc wrote:

quoted 25 lines yeah but breakcore is terrible though, it's just music to drink to.

> yeah but breakcore is terrible though, it's just music to drink to. > > On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 5:19 AM, n3wjack <n3wjack@n3wjack.net> wrote: > >> I see that in breakcore circles artists are more into playing their >> own >> stuff, but in this case it's more of a performance than a DJ set. > > > -- > Please note: This e-mail was sent from a notification-only address > that cannot accept incoming e-mail. Please do not reply to this > message. > > ---- > > pete lastname > meatsock@gmail.com > www.grep-fu.net > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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quoted 6 lines i never drink and breakcore at the same time, it could cause serious

> i never drink and breakcore at the same time, it could cause serious > injury. > > it's headbanging music for electroheads instead of metalheads. i went to > a breakcore show and there was kind of a "nerd pit", all these guys in short > hair and glasses up front going mental.

Hmm, over here it brings out all sort of weirdos really. Including guys with big woolly beards wearing red lumberjack shirts nodding their head while drinking their beer. Breakcore parties are teh fun.

quoted 4 lines i fucking love duran duran duran, enduser, ladyscraper, noisia, and some

> > i fucking love duran duran duran, enduser, ladyscraper, noisia, and some > others. oh and i have not one but two venetian snares CDs on their way as > we speak.

Noisia? The dutch drum'n'bass lad? Not really breakcore innit. :) The rest rocks yeah, and 2 Venetian Snares albums? You are so breakcore! ;) I hope it's "Winnipeg is a fucking shithole" and "Rossz Csillag Allat Született", or "Cavalcade Of Glee And Dadaist Happy Hardcore Pom Poms" or "Find Candace" (for the pedo art) VS pwnz, but he also plays DJ sets btw, to get right back on topic. Can't imaging doing much live with his shit though. It's so fast it makes your eyes bleed watching the tracker woosh across the notes and patterns. Check it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGK-EzEa45U -- "progress doesn't come from early risers progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things" http://n3wjack.net http://www.jungletrain.net - 24/7 dnb radio station

it's a little known fact that those 'nerd pits' are actually 'secret sausage parties' and enjoying them could eliminate entirely any Real Cred you've gotten from standing around at IDM shows and yelling out the name of unreleased VSTs as they are mixed in with the sound of a frog pooing on a brittle winter leaf underwater. In addition, they lead to dangerous shouting matches about animated cartoons and d20s, much to the delight of the 0-2 ladies who were forced to attend. take heed young buck -- listen to something cool that has a fashion prerogative not derived entirely from ironic zubaz wear. -meatsock On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 9:28 AM, chthonic streams <chthonic@chthonicstreams.com> wrote:

quoted 56 lines i never drink and breakcore at the same time, it could cause serious injury.

> i never drink and breakcore at the same time, it could cause serious injury. > > it's headbanging music for electroheads instead of metalheads. i went to a > breakcore show and there was kind of a "nerd pit", all these guys in short > hair and glasses up front going mental. > > i fucking love duran duran duran, enduser, ladyscraper, noisia, and some > others. oh and i have not one but two venetian snares CDs on their way as > we speak. > > > > > > On May 5, 2008, at 5:24 AM, Ed Hoc wrote: > > > > > > > > > > yeah but breakcore is terrible though, it's just music to drink to. > > > > On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 5:19 AM, n3wjack <n3wjack@n3wjack.net> wrote: > > > > > > > I see that in breakcore circles artists are more into playing their own > > > stuff, but in this case it's more of a performance than a DJ set. > > > > > > > > > -- > > Please note: This e-mail was sent from a notification-only address > > that cannot accept incoming e-mail. Please do not reply to this > > message. > > > > ---- > > > > pete lastname > > meatsock@gmail.com > > www.grep-fu.net > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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yes, i know what a DJ set is. this is part of my point though, was it billed as a DJ set? if i went to an AFX show i'd expect it to be a "show" not a DJ set. as you say, he is not a DJ in the first place. this was my issue with seeing ellen allien play with t. raumschmiere and apparat a few years ago. they played sets off their laptops and keyboards, she crouched down and spun records. mind you, the set was excellent as allien is a great techno DJ, but i went expecting to have her playing and singing. same with mira calix. i don't really get DJ sets booked into performance venues. they are 2 different things. having the DJ up on a stage - there's no point really. nothing to look at (well except ellen allien, she is just cute and charming to watch). unless you have some master turntablist and you hang a camera over the decks and project that on a screen to watch his hands as he moves the records and mixer or something. On May 5, 2008, at 5:19 AM, n3wjack wrote:

quoted 42 lines 2008/5/4 chthonic streams <chthonic@chthonicstreams.com>:

> 2008/5/4 chthonic streams <chthonic@chthonicstreams.com>: > >> yeah that would basically be my point of contention. if i go see a >> live >> show of an artist i like, i'd at least like to hear THEIR music. >> > > > That's usually the case with DJ sets. People spin some records, not > necessarily their own. > > In most DJ cultures this is common. In fact, when it comes to > drum'n'bass > for instance the ones that do play only their own music are sometimes > regarded as lame. > Dillinja is probably the only one who does this. Paradox has a > tendency to > do this as well, but he tends to do very a-typical DJ sets anyway, > since > he's not really a DJ in the first place. > > I see that in breakcore circles artists are more into playing their > own > stuff, but in this case it's more of a performance than a DJ set. > > Which is also what AFX is I guess. I doubt his best skill is DJing, > hence he > isn't good at it. It's typical for electronic music though that good > producers are called in to play DJ sets because their name brings in > a lot > of folks, but sometimes you're better off checking out a tru DJ, who > can > really create a vibe on the floor and play a good set, instead of > just a > bunch of records. > > -- > "progress doesn't come from early risers > progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things" > > http://n3wjack.net > http://www.jungletrain.net - 24/7 dnb radio station

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lol! It's not that bad. But if I was there, I reckon half an hour of banging idm wouldn't have been enough. Michael Kuszynski wrote:

quoted 113 lines I am halfway, and the first half was a combination of mediocre

> I am halfway, and the first half was a combination of mediocre > instrumental hip hop and flatlining tech-house that was poorly dj'ed. > > Not really sure what this has to do with Aphex Twin and if it's some > nasty little richard james joke. > > On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 12:28 AM, dr. butcher m.d. > <drbmd@badtaste4life.com> wrote: >> then you didn't listen to the whole set // just my guess >> >> -- >> badtastesucks.com >> badtaste4life.com >> animalswithinanimals.com >> >> On Sat, May 3, 2008 11:53 pm, Michael Kuszynski wrote: >> --> I don't get it... sounds like a hip hop dj. >> --> >> --> On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 11:52 PM, <ytbmusic@gmail.com> wrote: >> -->> heres the link directly to the mp3 for those of you who might be confused >> -->> about the last link. >> -->> http://garethmixes.com/droid/afx/aphex%20twin%20-%20coachela%2008.mp3 >> -->> >> -->> if there are other mp3s out there let us know. >> -->> >> -->> On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 3:08 PM, <ytbmusic@gmail.com> wrote: >> -->> >> -->>> heres the link to the mp3. got it off another mail list. >> -->>> http://garethmixes.com/droid/afx/ >> -->>> >> -->>> sound quality is good enough. not sound board but a good audience >> -->>> recording. go crazy people. >> -->>> >> -->>> >> -->>> >> -->>> On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 1:05 PM, Josh Steiner <josh@vitriolix.com> wrote: >> -->>> >> -->>> > n3wjack wrote: >> -->>> > >> -->>> > > 2008/4/29 chthonic <chthonic@chthonicstreams.com>: >> -->>> > > >> -->>> > > >> -->>> > > >> -->>> > > > aw man, so it wasn't some hot new AFX shit? >> -->>> > > > >> -->>> > > > >> -->>> > > >> -->>> > > >> -->>> > > Naah, this is strictly drum'n'bass he's playing in that Youtube video. >> -->>> > > The >> -->>> > > harder kind though. >> -->>> > > That first tune is called The Drained by Vertigo, released on Dropping >> -->>> > > Science, which is the shizzle when it comes to dnb labels btw. >> -->>> > > >> -->>> > > >> -->>> > >> -->>> > cool, tnx for the id. great great tune. aparently half of vertigo is >> -->>> > Danny Breaks, who is one of my favorites >> -->>> > >> -->>> > That last one in the vid is some of that typical "darkstep" hardcore >> -->>> > > beat >> -->>> > > banging style Evol Intent are so well known for. >> -->>> > > >> -->>> > > Maybe it's time to check out some of those DJ's playing on that radio >> -->>> > > station I have in my footer, if you dig that kind of material. :) >> -->>> > > >> -->>> > > >> -->>> > > >> -->>> > >> -->>> > >> -->>> > -- >> -->>> > ________________________________________________________________ >> -->>> > tasty electronic music vittles -- bluevitriol.com >> -->>> > the only music blog you need -- playtherecords.com >> -->>> > you are the dj. interactive music -- improbableorchestra.com >> -->>> > random observations of the bizarre -- vitriolix.com >> -->>> > >> -->>> > >> -->>> > >> -->>> > >> -->>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -->>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> -->>> > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> -->>> > >> -->>> > >> -->>> >> -->> >> --> >> --> >> --> >> --> -- >> --> --- >> --> Michael Kuszynski >> --> kuszynski@gmail.com >> --> info@planerecordings.com >> --> http://www.planerecordings.com >> --> New York, NY >> --> >> --> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> --> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> --> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> --> >> --> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> >> > > >

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'banging idm'. That would be an oxymoron, no?

quoted 1 line Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 20:42:13 -0700> To: idm@hyperreal.org> From: shannonoram@gmail

> Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 20:42:13 -0700> To: idm@hyperreal.org> From: shannonoram@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [idm] AFX @ Coachella> > lol! It's not that bad. But if I was there, I reckon half an hour of > banging idm wouldn't have been enough.>

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I will say there were at least a few songs that had that RDJ signature sound. Definitely some melodic bits were so RDJ it couldn't have been someone else (unless it was the Tuss hehe), but there were at least as many if not more songs that sounded sampled or DJ'd for sure. I think there are about 3 songs that stick out in my head as totally RDJ tunes and they were simply brilliant. If they weren't AFX, then he found some good imitators and mixed them in his DJ set. Still would like to figure out who they were if it isn't AFX. chthonic wrote:

quoted 43 lines aw man, so it wasn't some hot new AFX shit?

> aw man, so it wasn't some hot new AFX shit? > > as far as i'm concerned his last album was 'drukqs'. only thing since then has been > the analord stuff, a cute 12" series side project thing - SOME of which was then > collected on a CD. > > when is RDJ going to drop some new, serious, death-defying, genre-refining shit? > > > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: "Brandon Tallent" <btallent@gmail.com> > Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 09:37:32 -0700 > > >> Hey I recognize the track on that youtube video...not sure who the >> artist is but it was an an old (98 maybe?) dieselboy mixtape called "A >> solider story". >> >> On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 8:07 PM, chthonic streams >> <chthonic@chthonicstreams.com> wrote: >> >>> this bit on youtube sounds pretty mental and has some crazy dancing animals >>> too. >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRsDuqSVS4A >>> > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > Sent via the WebMail system at chthonicstreams.com > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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quoted 5 lines seriously tho, what do you people want him to play? unreleased autechre

> seriously tho, what do you people want him to play? unreleased autechre > tracks? conduct a 3 hour djset comprising of his newest > supercollider/maxmsp/reaktor ensembles? do a little live PD as his djset? > > "i am offended. he didnt play music that was IDM enough"...

Seriously, I thought IDM was motivated by a spirit of open mindedness and eclecticism and a distaste for 'genre boundaries' and limitations. But when someone who gets a lot of respect from the IDM community as a pioneer with little respect for genre or convention plays a set incorporating techno and (gasp!) hip hop tunes that he likes (and lets ignore for the moment how much IDM there'd even be if it hadn't had hip hop and techno to nick ideas and techniques from) people are up in arms that he's not conforming to their conservative expectations of what an 'IDM artist' should be playing. ffs, you'd think people would show him the respect of trying to see what he's doing with it and why he's into it, rather than writing it off as 'oh he's playing hip hop, how awfully boring.' David This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses, which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation.

But it actually was boring. I heard college radio dj's spin better sets. It was not mixed very well. On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Sim David <pmxds@nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

quoted 19 lines seriously tho, what do you people want him to play? unreleased autechre

>> seriously tho, what do you people want him to play? unreleased autechre >> tracks? conduct a 3 hour djset comprising of his newest >> supercollider/maxmsp/reaktor ensembles? do a little live PD as his djset? >> >> "i am offended. he didnt play music that was IDM enough"... > > Seriously, I thought IDM was motivated by a spirit of open mindedness and eclecticism and a distaste for 'genre boundaries' and limitations. But when someone who gets a lot of respect from the IDM community as a pioneer with little respect for genre or convention plays a set incorporating techno and (gasp!) hip hop tunes that he likes (and lets ignore for the moment how much IDM there'd even be if it hadn't had hip hop and techno to nick ideas and techniques from) people are up in arms that he's not conforming to their conservative expectations of what an 'IDM artist' should be playing. > > ffs, you'd think people would show him the respect of trying to see what he's doing with it and why he's into it, rather than writing it off as 'oh he's playing hip hop, how awfully boring.' > > David > > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses, which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > >

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a bit nauseating... i like rdj... but to spend this much time on analyzing trends and trying to figure out whether afx is taking a piss or why we haven't heard 85.6% of what he played... or whether he's a good dj (WHO CARES? isn't DJ'ing dead yet? sarcasm etc...) it reminds me of seeing Mike P playing Hellfish in L.A. and the place going nuts... when a month earlier Hellfish actually played in L.A. and NONE of those people going mad to his tunes that night were there... (because mike p has more "cred"?) Go forth, dig up new music, don't wait for someone to tell you what the good stuff is... its much more satisfying than whinging about what AFX likes. k

quoted 1 line Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 17:52:29 +0100> From: pmxds@nottingham.ac.uk> To: idm@hyperrea

> Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 17:52:29 +0100> From: pmxds@nottingham.ac.uk> To: idm@hyperreal.org> Subject: RE: [idm] AFX @ Coachella> > > seriously tho, what do you people want him to play? unreleased autechre> > tracks? conduct a 3 hour djset comprising of his newest> > supercollider/maxmsp/reaktor ensembles? do a little live PD as his djset?> > > > "i am offended. he didnt play music that was IDM enough"...> > Seriously, I thought IDM was motivated by a spirit of open mindedness and eclecticism and a distaste for 'genre boundaries' and limitations. But when someone who gets a lot of respect from the IDM community as a pioneer with little respect for genre or convention plays a set incorporating techno and (gasp!) hip hop tunes that he likes (and lets ignore for the moment how much IDM there'd even be if it hadn't had hip hop and techno to nick ideas and techniques from) people are up in arms that he's not conforming to their conservative expectations of what an 'IDM artist' should be playing.> > ffs, you'd think people would show him the respect of trying to see what he's doing with it and why he's into it, rather than writing it off as 'oh he's playing hip hop, how awfully boring.'> > David> > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment> may still contain software viruses, which could damage your computer system:> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation.>

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whaat@!! u r totally misteakin the only thing to chat up teh interweb about is all the amazing and shokers this dude pulls out, like that poster of the notes and it's like 'honestly does he write this stuff or just mask the keybpad?' fukkin, afx is teh shit and i defy u to prove it incorrect he's grate. On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 11:12 PM, Concrete Cookie <concrete_cookie@hotmail.com> wrote:

quoted 16 lines a bit nauseating...

> > a bit nauseating... > > i like rdj... but to spend this much time on analyzing trends and trying to figure out whether afx is taking a piss or why we haven't heard 85.6% of what he played... or whether he's a good dj (WHO CARES? isn't DJ'ing dead yet? sarcasm etc...) > > it reminds me of seeing Mike P playing Hellfish in L.A. and the place going nuts... when a month earlier Hellfish actually played in L.A. and NONE of those people going mad to his tunes that night were there... (because mike p has more "cred"?) > > Go forth, dig up new music, don't wait for someone to tell you what the good stuff is... its much more satisfying than whinging about what AFX likes. > > > k > > > Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 17:52:29 +0100> From: pmxds@nottingham.ac.uk> To: idm@hyperreal.org> Subject: RE: [idm] AFX @ Coachella> > > seriously tho, what do you people want him to play? unreleased autechre> > tracks? conduct a 3 hour djset comprising of his newest> > supercollider/maxmsp/reaktor ensembles? do a little live PD as his djset?> > > > "i am offended. he didnt play music that was IDM enough"...> > Seriously, I thought IDM was motivated by a spirit of open mindedness and eclecticism and a distaste for 'genre boundaries' and limitations. But when someone who gets a lot of respect from the IDM community as a pioneer with little respect for genre or convention plays a set incorporating techno and (gasp!) hip hop tunes that he likes (and lets ignore for the moment how much IDM there'd even be if it hadn't had hip hop and techno to nick ideas and techniques from) people are up in arms that he's not conforming to their conservative expectations of what an 'IDM artist' should be playing.> > ffs, you'd think people would show him the respect of trying to see what he's doing with it and why he's into it, rather than writing it off as 'oh he's playing hip hop, how awfully boring.'> > David> > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment> may still contain software viruses, which could damage your computer system:> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation.> > _________________________________________________________________ > Get Free (PRODUCT) RED™ Emoticons, Winks and Display Pics. > http://joinred.spaces.live.com?ocid=TXT_HMTG_prodredemoticons_052008

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So when did people stop going to shows out of curiosity and through their own volition, instead of having to be 'sold' it. Maybe no one went to hellfish, but jumped to michael p, because they are fickle? The fudge has a much richer flavour.

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> From: chthonic@chthonicstreams.com> To: idm@hyperreal.org> Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 09:36:43 -0400> Subject: Re: [idm] mike p plays hellfish> > > On May 4, 2008, at 11:12 PM, Concrete Cookie wrote:> >> > it reminds me of seeing Mike P playing Hellfish in L.A. and the > > place going nuts... when a month earlier Hellfish actually played in > > L.A. and NONE of those people going mad to his tunes that night were > > there... (because mike p has more "cred"?)> > > not everyone knows all about music before going to a show. most of > the world doesn't spend tons of time on lists or boards about music. > mike p. probably had a bigger draw because his music probably has much > wider acceptance, it's not as harsh as hellfish's. i bet the people > going nuts to hellfish tracks had just never heard of him, which is > why they weren't at the show earlier. if hellfish had played the > following week that might have been a different story.> > i actually forgot hellfish's name for awhile even though i have a > deathchant CD of him and DJ producer. it's "no mistakes allowed". i > always thought of it as "the deathchant CD", since it's just a black > cover and CD with their logo on it. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org>

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