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2008-01-03 05:30mantrakid [idm] Sample Based Techno
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│ └─ 2008-01-03 06:39Cyrill Bloch [idm] RE : Re: [idm] Sample Based Techno
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│ │ └─ 2008-01-15 07:55John D. Re: [idm] Sample Based Techno
│ └─ 2008-01-04 04:30nat hawks [idm] digital distro recommendations?!
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└─ 2008-01-03 18:06Jan Moesen Re: [idm] Sample Based Techno
2008-01-04 02:10Robert Curlee RE: [idm] Sample Based Techno
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2008-01-04 05:10mantrakid RE: [idm] Sample Based Techno
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2008-01-04 05:14mantrakid RE: [idm] Sample Based Techno
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2008-01-03 05:30mantrakidCan anyone click me into some *good* sample based techno? Im talking 100% sample & drum ma
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Can anyone click me into some *good* sample based techno? Im talking 100% sample & drum machine based or i guess more forgivingly - NO SYNTHS ALLOWED. Does a thing exist? Im looking for shit along the lines of 90's hip hop production ala DJ Muggs & Beastie Boys but more electronic-ey than hip hop, with that gritty sample based 'mood' to it. Almost like Akufen if his decay knob broke off in the (Zero Decay) position.... What do you think? Mantra
2008-01-03 06:31Ed Hoctroll On Jan 3, 2008 12:30 AM, mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote: > Can anyone click
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troll On Jan 3, 2008 12:30 AM, mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote:
quoted 16 lines Can anyone click me into some *good* sample based techno? Im talking 100%> Can anyone click me into some *good* sample based techno? Im talking 100% > sample & drum machine based or i guess more forgivingly - NO SYNTHS ALLOWED. > Does a thing exist? Im looking for shit along the lines of 90's hip hop > production ala DJ Muggs & Beastie Boys but more electronic-ey than hip hop, > with that gritty sample based 'mood' to it. Almost like Akufen if his decay > knob broke off in the (Zero Decay) position.... > > > > What do you think? > > > > Mantra > >
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2008-01-03 06:39Cyrill Blochwhich album from "troll" would you advise to listen to? Ed Hoc <meatsock@gmail.com> a écri
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which album from "troll" would you advise to listen to? Ed Hoc <meatsock@gmail.com> a écrit : troll On Jan 3, 2008 12:30 AM, mantrakid wrote:
quoted 16 lines Can anyone click me into some *good* sample based techno? Im talking 100%> Can anyone click me into some *good* sample based techno? Im talking 100% > sample & drum machine based or i guess more forgivingly - NO SYNTHS ALLOWED. > Does a thing exist? Im looking for shit along the lines of 90's hip hop > production ala DJ Muggs & Beastie Boys but more electronic-ey than hip hop, > with that gritty sample based 'mood' to it. Almost like Akufen if his decay > knob broke off in the (Zero Decay) position.... > > > > What do you think? > > > > Mantra > >
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2008-01-03 07:23Douglas TeikeIsolee? The Field? mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote: Can anyone click me into some
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Isolee? The Field? mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote: Can anyone click me into some *good* sample based techno? Im talking 100% sample & drum machine based or i guess more forgivingly - NO SYNTHS ALLOWED. Does a thing exist? Im looking for shit along the lines of 90's hip hop production ala DJ Muggs & Beastie Boys but more electronic-ey than hip hop, with that gritty sample based 'mood' to it. Almost like Akufen if his decay knob broke off in the (Zero Decay) position.... What do you think? Mantra
2008-01-03 23:01folk devilwhat about soft synths...? Element Abuse Smear Maggot Farmer DJ Producer Hellfish ........
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what about soft synths...? Element Abuse Smear Maggot Farmer DJ Producer Hellfish ..............................................> Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 23:23:31 -0800> From: r3tic@yahoo.com> To: mantrakid@neferiu.com; idm@hyperreal.org> Subject: Re: [idm] Sample Based Techno> > Isolee?> The Field?> > mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote: Can anyone click me into some *good* sample based techno? Im talking 100%> sample & drum machine based or i guess more forgivingly - NO SYNTHS ALLOWED.> Does a thing exist? Im looking for shit along the lines of 90's hip hop> production ala DJ Muggs & Beastie Boys but more electronic-ey than hip hop,> with that gritty sample based 'mood' to it. Almost like Akufen if his decay> knob broke off in the (Zero Decay) position....> > > > What do you think?> > > > Mantra> > _________________________________________________________________ i’m is proud to present Cause Effect, a series about real people making a difference. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/MTV/?source=text_Cause_Effect
2008-01-03 23:06mantrakidYeah i know i was a bit unclear in my explanation of what I'm looking for... Basically I'm
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Yeah i know i was a bit unclear in my explanation of what I'm looking for... Basically I'm not interested in synthy or electronic sounding music... there are an abundant of awesome techno artists (Landstrumm, Daft Punk, LCD Soundsystem, Mike Ink, Headroom, etc) that I absolutely love, but Im wondering if there is any music or artists specializing in "sampled music" techno.... Like you know how Cypress hill beats are very loopy and essentially repeat the same 4 bar sample ripped out of an old jazz song or whatever... and you hear the grittiness of the record crackle, the simplicity of the repeated loops... i want that same lofi grittiness but in techno format.... pretty much a hip hop beat with a different drum sequencing and faster tempo.... Apologies for my ignorance, but yeah ive been out of the loop. ;) M -----Original Message----- From: folk devil [mailto:folkdevil_23@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 4:01 PM To: idm@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [idm] Sample Based Techno what about soft synths...? Element Abuse Smear Maggot Farmer DJ Producer Hellfish ..............................................> Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 23:23:31 -0800> From: r3tic@yahoo.com> To: mantrakid@neferiu.com; idm@hyperreal.org> Subject: Re: [idm] Sample Based Techno> > Isolee?> The Field?> > mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote: Can anyone click me into some *good* sample based techno? Im talking 100%> sample & drum machine based or i guess more forgivingly - NO SYNTHS ALLOWED.> Does a thing exist? Im looking for shit along the lines of 90's hip hop> production ala DJ Muggs & Beastie Boys but more electronic-ey than hip hop,> with that gritty sample based 'mood' to it. Almost like Akufen if his decay> knob broke off in the (Zero Decay) position....> > > > What do you think?> > > > Mantra> > _________________________________________________________________ i'm is proud to present Cause Effect, a series about real people making a difference. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/MTV/?source=text_Cause_Effect --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2008-01-03 23:30Jeff DavisMantra - not EXACTLY the alleyway you are searching for, but make sure you don't sleep on
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Mantra - not EXACTLY the alleyway you are searching for, but make sure you don't sleep on anything from Theo Parrish with the words "UGLY EDITS" in the title. not fully but nearly 100% sample, no filler or funk byproducts used. cue up "Got a Match" from UGLY EDITS 3 to get a flavor DISCOLICIOUS . On Jan 3, 2008 6:06 PM, mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote:
quoted 53 lines Yeah i know i was a bit unclear in my explanation of what I'm looking for...> Yeah i know i was a bit unclear in my explanation of what I'm looking for... > Basically I'm not interested in synthy or electronic sounding music... there > are an abundant of awesome techno artists (Landstrumm, Daft Punk, LCD > Soundsystem, Mike Ink, Headroom, etc) that I absolutely love, but Im > wondering if there is any music or artists specializing in "sampled music" > techno.... > > Like you know how Cypress hill beats are very loopy and essentially repeat > the same 4 bar sample ripped out of an old jazz song or whatever... and you > hear the grittiness of the record crackle, the simplicity of the repeated > loops... i want that same lofi grittiness but in techno format.... pretty > much a hip hop beat with a different drum sequencing and faster tempo.... > > Apologies for my ignorance, but yeah ive been out of the loop. ;) > > M > > > -----Original Message----- > From: folk devil [mailto:folkdevil_23@hotmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 4:01 PM > To: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: [idm] Sample Based Techno > > > what about soft synths...? > > Element Abuse > Smear > Maggot Farmer > DJ Producer > Hellfish ..............................................> Date: Wed, 2 Jan > 2008 23:23:31 -0800> From: r3tic@yahoo.com> To: mantrakid@neferiu.com; > idm@hyperreal.org> Subject: Re: [idm] Sample Based Techno> > Isolee?> The > Field?> > mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote: Can anyone click me into > some *good* sample based techno? Im talking 100%> sample & drum machine > based or i guess more forgivingly - NO SYNTHS ALLOWED.> Does a thing exist? > Im looking for shit along the lines of 90's hip hop> production ala DJ Muggs > & Beastie Boys but more electronic-ey than hip hop,> with that gritty sample > based 'mood' to it. Almost like Akufen if his decay> knob broke off in the > (Zero Decay) position....> > > > What do you think?> > > > Mantra> > > _________________________________________________________________ > i'm is proud to present Cause Effect, a series about real people making a > difference. > http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/MTV/?source=text_Cause_Effect > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2008-01-04 00:39Robert CurleeTry acts like Freddie Fresh and Depth Charge. http://www.discogs.com/artist/Freddy+Fresh?a
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Try acts like Freddie Fresh and Depth Charge. http://www.discogs.com/artist/Freddy+Fresh?anv=Freddie+Fresh Fresh Is The Word on Sockett is very sample laiden with little or no washy synths. Schmid is a man of many faces though, so listen before you buy. http://www.discogs.com/artist/Depth+Charge One of my personal favorite releases is Depth Charge's Nine Deadly Venoms.
quoted 13 lines On Jan 3, 2008 6:06 PM, mantrakid> On Jan 3, 2008 6:06 PM, mantrakid > <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote: > > Yeah i know i was a bit unclear in my explanation > of what I'm looking for... > > Basically I'm not interested in synthy or > electronic sounding music... there > > are an abundant of awesome techno artists > (Landstrumm, Daft Punk, LCD > > Soundsystem, Mike Ink, Headroom, etc) that I > absolutely love, but Im > > wondering if there is any music or artists > specializing in "sampled music" > > techno....
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2008-01-04 01:18folk devilDepth charge, excellent. You can't beat a bit of Mr J Saul Kane :) Aren't we broadening th
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Depth charge, excellent. You can't beat a bit of Mr J Saul Kane :) Aren't we broadening the definition of techno a wee bit here? Not that I mind...> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 16:39:31 -0800> From: rcurlee@yahoo.com> To: idm@hyperreal.org> Subject: Re: [idm] Sample Based Techno> > Try acts like Freddie Fresh and Depth Charge.> > http://www.discogs.com/artist/Freddy+Fresh?anv=Freddie+Fresh> > Fresh Is The Word on Sockett is very sample laiden> with little or no washy synths. Schmid is a man of> many faces though, so listen before you buy.> > http://www.discogs.com/artist/Depth+Charge> > One of my personal favorite releases is Depth Charge's> Nine Deadly Venoms.> > > On Jan 3, 2008 6:06 PM, mantrakid> > <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote:> > > Yeah i know i was a bit unclear in my explanation> > of what I'm looking for...> > > Basically I'm not interested in synthy or> > electronic sounding music... there> > > are an abundant of awesome techno artists> > (Landstrumm, Daft Punk, LCD> > > Soundsystem, Mike Ink, Headroom, etc) that I> > absolutely love, but Im> > > wondering if there is any music or artists> > specializing in "sampled music"> > > techno....> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org> _________________________________________________________________ Get the power of Windows + Web with the new Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_powerofwindows_122007
2008-01-04 01:31Ed Hoci'm just curious to know how many of the producers you mentioned only avoided using synths
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i'm just curious to know how many of the producers you mentioned only avoided using synths because they couldn't afford one; i.e. my point is that it seems more likely that 'not using a common tool', at that stage of the game, wasn't due to aesthetics. On Jan 3, 2008 6:06 PM, mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote:
quoted 53 lines Yeah i know i was a bit unclear in my explanation of what I'm looking for...> Yeah i know i was a bit unclear in my explanation of what I'm looking for... > Basically I'm not interested in synthy or electronic sounding music... there > are an abundant of awesome techno artists (Landstrumm, Daft Punk, LCD > Soundsystem, Mike Ink, Headroom, etc) that I absolutely love, but Im > wondering if there is any music or artists specializing in "sampled music" > techno.... > > Like you know how Cypress hill beats are very loopy and essentially repeat > the same 4 bar sample ripped out of an old jazz song or whatever... and you > hear the grittiness of the record crackle, the simplicity of the repeated > loops... i want that same lofi grittiness but in techno format.... pretty > much a hip hop beat with a different drum sequencing and faster tempo.... > > Apologies for my ignorance, but yeah ive been out of the loop. ;) > > M > > > -----Original Message----- > From: folk devil [mailto:folkdevil_23@hotmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 4:01 PM > To: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: [idm] Sample Based Techno > > > what about soft synths...? > > Element Abuse > Smear > Maggot Farmer > DJ Producer > Hellfish ..............................................> Date: Wed, 2 Jan > 2008 23:23:31 -0800> From: r3tic@yahoo.com> To: mantrakid@neferiu.com; > idm@hyperreal.org> Subject: Re: [idm] Sample Based Techno> > Isolee?> The > Field?> > mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote: Can anyone click me into > some *good* sample based techno? Im talking 100%> sample & drum machine > based or i guess more forgivingly - NO SYNTHS ALLOWED.> Does a thing exist? > Im looking for shit along the lines of 90's hip hop> production ala DJ Muggs > & Beastie Boys but more electronic-ey than hip hop,> with that gritty sample > based 'mood' to it. Almost like Akufen if his decay> knob broke off in the > (Zero Decay) position....> > > > What do you think?> > > > Mantra> > > _________________________________________________________________ > i'm is proud to present Cause Effect, a series about real people making a > difference. > http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/MTV/?source=text_Cause_Effect > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2008-01-04 04:44mantrakidExactly why im asking if anyone does it for aesthetics at this stage in the game. -----Ori
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Exactly why im asking if anyone does it for aesthetics at this stage in the game. -----Original Message----- From: Ed Hoc [mailto:meatsock@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 6:32 PM To: mantrakid Cc: idm@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [idm] Sample Based Techno i'm just curious to know how many of the producers you mentioned only avoided using synths because they couldn't afford one; i.e. my point is that it seems more likely that 'not using a common tool', at that stage of the game, wasn't due to aesthetics. On Jan 3, 2008 6:06 PM, mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote:
quoted 1 line Yeah i know i was a bit unclear in my explanation of what I'm looking> Yeah i know i was a bit unclear in my explanation of what I'm looking
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quoted 1 line Basically I'm not interested in synthy or electronic sounding music...> Basically I'm not interested in synthy or electronic sounding music...
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quoted 7 lines are an abundant of awesome techno artists (Landstrumm, Daft Punk, LCD> are an abundant of awesome techno artists (Landstrumm, Daft Punk, LCD > Soundsystem, Mike Ink, Headroom, etc) that I absolutely love, but Im > wondering if there is any music or artists specializing in "sampled music" > techno.... > > Like you know how Cypress hill beats are very loopy and essentially repeat > the same 4 bar sample ripped out of an old jazz song or whatever... and
you
quoted 26 lines hear the grittiness of the record crackle, the simplicity of the repeated> hear the grittiness of the record crackle, the simplicity of the repeated > loops... i want that same lofi grittiness but in techno format.... pretty > much a hip hop beat with a different drum sequencing and faster tempo.... > > Apologies for my ignorance, but yeah ive been out of the loop. ;) > > M > > > -----Original Message----- > From: folk devil [mailto:folkdevil_23@hotmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 4:01 PM > To: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: [idm] Sample Based Techno > > > what about soft synths...? > > Element Abuse > Smear > Maggot Farmer > DJ Producer > Hellfish ..............................................> Date: Wed, 2 Jan > 2008 23:23:31 -0800> From: r3tic@yahoo.com> To: mantrakid@neferiu.com; > idm@hyperreal.org> Subject: Re: [idm] Sample Based Techno> > Isolee?> The > Field?> > mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote: Can anyone click me
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quoted 2 lines some *good* sample based techno? Im talking 100%> sample & drum machine> some *good* sample based techno? Im talking 100%> sample & drum machine > based or i guess more forgivingly - NO SYNTHS ALLOWED.> Does a thing
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quoted 1 line Im looking for shit along the lines of 90's hip hop> production ala DJ> Im looking for shit along the lines of 90's hip hop> production ala DJ
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quoted 1 line & Beastie Boys but more electronic-ey than hip hop,> with that gritty> & Beastie Boys but more electronic-ey than hip hop,> with that gritty
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quoted 14 lines based 'mood' to it. Almost like Akufen if his decay> knob broke off in the> based 'mood' to it. Almost like Akufen if his decay> knob broke off in the > (Zero Decay) position....> > > > What do you think?> > > > Mantra> > > _________________________________________________________________ > i'm is proud to present Cause Effect, a series about real people making a > difference. > http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/MTV/?source=text_Cause_Effect > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2008-01-15 07:55John D.you might like the the t brinkmann "soul center" releases. something of that esthetic > Ye
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you might like the the t brinkmann "soul center" releases. something of that esthetic
quoted 52 lines Yeah i know i was a bit unclear in my explanation of what I'm looking for...> Yeah i know i was a bit unclear in my explanation of what I'm looking for... > Basically I'm not interested in synthy or electronic sounding music... there > are an abundant of awesome techno artists (Landstrumm, Daft Punk, LCD > Soundsystem, Mike Ink, Headroom, etc) that I absolutely love, but Im > wondering if there is any music or artists specializing in "sampled music" > techno.... > > Like you know how Cypress hill beats are very loopy and essentially repeat > the same 4 bar sample ripped out of an old jazz song or whatever... and you > hear the grittiness of the record crackle, the simplicity of the repeated > loops... i want that same lofi grittiness but in techno format.... pretty > much a hip hop beat with a different drum sequencing and faster tempo.... > > Apologies for my ignorance, but yeah ive been out of the loop. ;) > > M > > -----Original Message----- > From: folk devil [mailto:folkdevil_23@hotmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 4:01 PM > To: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: [idm] Sample Based Techno > > > what about soft synths...? > > Element Abuse > Smear > Maggot Farmer > DJ Producer > Hellfish ..............................................> Date: Wed, 2 Jan > 2008 23:23:31 -0800> From: r3tic@yahoo.com> To: mantrakid@neferiu.com; > idm@hyperreal.org> Subject: Re: [idm] Sample Based Techno> > Isolee?> The > Field?> > mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote: Can anyone click me into > some *good* sample based techno? Im talking 100%> sample & drum machine > based or i guess more forgivingly - NO SYNTHS ALLOWED.> Does a thing exist? > Im looking for shit along the lines of 90's hip hop> production ala DJ Muggs > & Beastie Boys but more electronic-ey than hip hop,> with that gritty sample > based 'mood' to it. Almost like Akufen if his decay> knob broke off in the > (Zero Decay) position....> > > > What do you think?> > > > Mantra> > > _________________________________________________________________ > i'm is proud to present Cause Effect, a series about real people making a > difference. > http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/MTV/?source=text_Cause_Effect > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > >
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2008-01-04 04:30nat hawksapologies if this discussion has already occurred... i've got a lil' label whose music i'd
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apologies if this discussion has already occurred... i've got a lil' label whose music i'd like to start offering as cheap digital purchases and need help raking through the muck. can anyone recommend or warn me against any of these?... http://www.snocap.com http://www.tunecore.com http://www.amiestreet.com http://www.imeem.com i'm not that worried about making money, i just want someone to host the songs and allow me to set low prices. for some reason snocap seems the most trustworthy though all of them seem a bit sly in the fine print. HELP!!! nat http://www.littlefurythings.net http://www.myspace.com/littlefurythingsrecords _________________________________________________________________ Don't get caught with egg on your face. Play Chicktionary! http://club.live.com/chicktionary.aspx?icid=chick_wlhmtextlink1_dec --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2008-01-06 11:32n3wjack2008/1/4, nat hawks <natbot@hotmail.com>: > > > apologies if this discussion has already o
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2008/1/4, nat hawks <natbot@hotmail.com>:
quoted 21 lines apologies if this discussion has already occurred...> > > apologies if this discussion has already occurred... > > i've got a lil' label whose music i'd like to start offering as cheap > digital purchases and need help raking through the muck. > > can anyone recommend or warn me against any of these?... > > http://www.snocap.com > http://www.tunecore.com > http://www.amiestreet.com > http://www.imeem.com > > i'm not that worried about making money, i just want someone to host the > songs and allow me to set low prices. for some reason snocap seems the most > trustworthy though all of them seem a bit sly in the fine print. > > HELP!!! > >
Frankly, I haven't heard of any of these before, so I can't really help there. I do know yet another digital tune provider which I think is trustworthy. I haven't dealt with them myself again, but they do offer a bunch of tunes from respected drum'n'bass labels, so I guess they know what they are doing right? Maybe check that one out as well: http://www.digital-tunes.net/ How about beatport? I bet you know that one. -- "progress doesn't come from early risers progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things" http://n3wjack.net http://www.jungletrain.net - 24/7 dnb radio station
2008-01-06 12:10underscani can recommend www.finetunes.net great digital distro in hamburg. nice people! cheerz mar
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i can recommend www.finetunes.net great digital distro in hamburg. nice people! cheerz mark Am 06.01.2008 um 12:32 schrieb n3wjack:
quoted 45 lines 2008/1/4, nat hawks <natbot@hotmail.com>:> 2008/1/4, nat hawks <natbot@hotmail.com>: >> >> >> apologies if this discussion has already occurred... >> >> i've got a lil' label whose music i'd like to start offering as cheap >> digital purchases and need help raking through the muck. >> >> can anyone recommend or warn me against any of these?... >> >> http://www.snocap.com >> http://www.tunecore.com >> http://www.amiestreet.com >> http://www.imeem.com >> >> i'm not that worried about making money, i just want someone to >> host the >> songs and allow me to set low prices. for some reason snocap >> seems the most >> trustworthy though all of them seem a bit sly in the fine print. >> >> HELP!!! >> >> > Frankly, I haven't heard of any of these before, so I can't really > help > there. > I do know yet another digital tune provider which I think is > trustworthy. I > haven't dealt with them myself again, but they do offer a bunch of > tunes > from respected drum'n'bass labels, so I guess they know what they > are doing > right? > Maybe check that one out as well: > http://www.digital-tunes.net/ > > How about beatport? I bet you know that one. > > -- > "progress doesn't come from early risers > progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things" > > http://n3wjack.net > http://www.jungletrain.net - 24/7 dnb radio station
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2008-01-09 14:33Max & MarkIRIS ?? i recently signed with them for the pertin_nce digi dist. -----Message d'origine--
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IRIS ?? i recently signed with them for the pertin_nce digi dist. -----Message d'origine----- De : nat hawks [mailto:natbot@hotmail.com] Envoyé : 3 janvier 2008 23:31 À : idm@hyperreal.org Objet : [idm] digital distro recommendations?! apologies if this discussion has already occurred... i've got a lil' label whose music i'd like to start offering as cheap digital purchases and need help raking through the muck. can anyone recommend or warn me against any of these?... http://www.snocap.com http://www.tunecore.com http://www.amiestreet.com http://www.imeem.com i'm not that worried about making money, i just want someone to host the songs and allow me to set low prices. for some reason snocap seems the most trustworthy though all of them seem a bit sly in the fine print. HELP!!! nat http://www.littlefurythings.net http://www.myspace.com/littlefurythingsrecords _________________________________________________________________ Don't get caught with egg on your face. Play Chicktionary! http://club.live.com/chicktionary.aspx?icid=chick_wlhmtextlink1_dec --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2008-01-03 18:06Jan Moesen> Can anyone click me into some *good* sample based techno? Im talking 100% > sample & dru
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quoted 2 lines Can anyone click me into some *good* sample based techno? Im talking 100%> Can anyone click me into some *good* sample based techno? Im talking 100% > sample & drum machine based
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2008-01-04 02:10Robert CurleeIs there a definition of techno? If you want to be a purist real techno only comes from pr
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Is there a definition of techno? If you want to be a purist real techno only comes from producers in Detriot. But once you get broader than that, Vinyl Solution is as much a techno label as any others outside of Detroit. Back in the day it was as big as R&S, Warp, you name it. --- folk devil <folkdevil_23@hotmail.com> wrote:
quoted 11 lines Depth charge, excellent. You can't beat a bit of Mr> > Depth charge, excellent. You can't beat a bit of Mr > J Saul Kane :) > Aren't we broadening the definition of techno a wee > bit here? > Not that I mind...> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 16:39:31 > -0800> From: rcurlee@yahoo.com> To: > idm@hyperreal.org> Subject: Re: [idm] Sample Based > Techno> > Try acts like Freddie Fresh and Depth > Charge.> > >
http://www.discogs.com/artist/Freddy+Fresh?anv=Freddie+Fresh>
quoted 6 lines Fresh Is The Word on Sockett is very sample> > Fresh Is The Word on Sockett is very sample > laiden> with little or no washy synths. Schmid is a > man of> many faces though, so listen before you > buy.> > http://www.discogs.com/artist/Depth+Charge> > > One of my personal favorite releases is Depth > Charge's> Nine Deadly Venoms
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2008-01-04 04:48mantrakidWell, by techno Im more referring to traditional 'techno' in the 4/4 b h b h sense.. Now..
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Well, by techno Im more referring to traditional 'techno' in the 4/4 b h b h sense.. Now.. new question: why are so many people trying to overcomplicate and water down the question with side questions and culture flexing? Gah nevermind. :) Thanks for the suggestions for those who gave them!! Much appreciated!! -----Original Message----- From: Robert Curlee [mailto:rcurlee@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 7:10 PM To: Armchair Techno Subject: RE: [idm] Sample Based Techno Is there a definition of techno? If you want to be a purist real techno only comes from producers in Detriot. But once you get broader than that, Vinyl Solution is as much a techno label as any others outside of Detroit. Back in the day it was as big as R&S, Warp, you name it. --- folk devil <folkdevil_23@hotmail.com> wrote:
quoted 11 lines Depth charge, excellent. You can't beat a bit of Mr> > Depth charge, excellent. You can't beat a bit of Mr > J Saul Kane :) > Aren't we broadening the definition of techno a wee > bit here? > Not that I mind...> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 16:39:31 > -0800> From: rcurlee@yahoo.com> To: > idm@hyperreal.org> Subject: Re: [idm] Sample Based > Techno> > Try acts like Freddie Fresh and Depth > Charge.> > >
http://www.discogs.com/artist/Freddy+Fresh?anv=Freddie+Fresh>
quoted 6 lines Fresh Is The Word on Sockett is very sample> > Fresh Is The Word on Sockett is very sample > laiden> with little or no washy synths. Schmid is a > man of> many faces though, so listen before you > buy.> > http://www.discogs.com/artist/Depth+Charge> > > One of my personal favorite releases is Depth > Charge's> Nine Deadly Venoms
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2008-01-04 18:00folk devilI said, 'not that I mind' ;) I think genres are [were] the achilles heal of electronic...
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I said, 'not that I mind' ;) I think genres are [were] the achilles heal of electronic... btw..i don't think kraftwerk were from detroit ;)
quoted 1 line Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 18:10:02 -0800> From: rcurlee@yahoo.com> To: idm@hyperreal.org> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 18:10:02 -0800> From: rcurlee@yahoo.com> To: idm@hyperreal.org> Subject: RE: [idm] Sample Based Techno> > Is there a definition of techno?> > If you want to be a purist real techno only comes from> producers in Detriot. But once you get broader than> that, Vinyl Solution is as much a techno label as any> others outside of Detroit. Back in the day it was as> big as R&S, Warp, you name it.> > --- folk devil <folkdevil_23@hotmail.com> wrote:> > > > > Depth charge, excellent. You can't beat a bit of Mr> > J Saul Kane :)> > Aren't we broadening the definition of techno a wee> > bit here?> > Not that I mind...> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 16:39:31> > -0800> From: rcurlee@yahoo.com> To:> > idm@hyperreal.org> Subject: Re: [idm] Sample Based> > Techno> > Try acts like Freddie Fresh and Depth> > Charge.> >> >> http://www.discogs.com/artist/Freddy+Fresh?anv=Freddie+Fresh>> > > Fresh Is The Word on Sockett is very sample> > laiden> with little or no washy synths. Schmid is a> > man of> many faces though, so listen before you> > buy.> > http://www.discogs.com/artist/Depth+Charge>> > > One of my personal favorite releases is Depth> > Charge's> Nine Deadly Venoms> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org>
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2008-01-08 15:31Basma Ooh what about >>>Spawn OST, its not all synth probably but until now an old time favourit!
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oh what about >>>Spawn OST, its not all synth probably but until now an old time favourit! On 1/4/08, folk devil <folkdevil_23@hotmail.com> wrote:
quoted 9 lines I said, 'not that I mind' ;)> > I said, 'not that I mind' ;) > I think genres are [were] the achilles heal of electronic... > btw..i don't think kraftwerk were from detroit ;) > > > Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 18:10:02 -0800> From: rcurlee@yahoo.com> To: idm@hyperreal.org> Subject: RE: [idm] Sample Based Techno> > Is there a definition of techno?> > If you want to be a purist real techno only comes from> producers in Detriot. But once you get broader than> that, Vinyl Solution is as much a techno label as any> others outside of Detroit. Back in the day it was as> big as R&S, Warp, you name it.> > --- folk devil <folkdevil_23@hotmail.com> wrote:> > > > > Depth charge, excellent. You can't beat a bit of Mr> > J Saul Kane :)> > Aren't we broadening the definition of techno a wee> > bit here?> > Not that I mind...> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 16:39:31> > -0800> From: rcurlee@yahoo.com> To:> > idm@hyperreal.org> Subject: Re: [idm] Sample Based> > Techno> > Try acts like Freddie Fresh and Depth> > Charge.> >> >> http://www.discogs.com/artist/Freddy+Fresh?anv=Freddie+Fresh>> > > Fresh Is The Word on Sockett is very sample> > laiden> with little or no washy synths. Schmid is a> > man of> many faces though, so listen before you> > buy.> > http://www.discogs.com/artist/Depth+Charge>> > > One of my personal favorite releases is Depth> > Charge's> Nine Deadly Venoms> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org> > _________________________________________________________________ > Make distant family not so distant with Windows Vista(R) + Windows Live™. > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/digitallife/keepintouch.mspx?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_CPC_VideoChat_distantfamily_012008
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2008-01-04 05:10mantrakidBut im not at all talking about production technology. It doesn't matter to me if the synt
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But im not at all talking about production technology. It doesn't matter to me if the synth sound is coming out of a moog, mpc, reason, fruity loops or cool edit, a synth sound is a synth sound. I'm talking about sampling in the tradition of hip hop as i've said a few times now. So taking a clip of an old 70's funk song and making techno out of it. I can honestly say i have no consciously heard any music or artists doing that, so that's why im asking. I know techno is close to house/disco house/etc so i want to express that looping a 70's disco track with some 909 on top and some chick moaning & singing overtop it all is not what im talking about... I mean gritty dirty DJ Muggs, DJ Format, Mark B, Old Beastie Boys, etc. Here's an example *kinda* what im talking about but even this is a bit too glitchy & crisp. Im looking for more 'low fi' type shit. http://www.zshare.net/audio/6127257c3d16a2/ Don't mean to be a fucker but im getting frustrated cuz it seems like im either not expressing myself clearly or else im not being understood properly. In either situation, i apologize. :D Isnt this fun? .M -----Original Message----- From: Ed Hoc [mailto:meatsock@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 9:59 PM To: mantrakid Subject: Re: [idm] Sample Based Techno those aesthetics would include just using a computer 'at this stage in the game', i.e. 2007, so what's the difference between a soft synth and a soft sampler? On Jan 3, 2008 11:44 PM, mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote:
quoted 1 line Exactly why im asking if anyone does it for aesthetics at this stage in> Exactly why im asking if anyone does it for aesthetics at this stage in
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quoted 23 lines game.> game. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ed Hoc [mailto:meatsock@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 6:32 PM > To: mantrakid > Cc: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [idm] Sample Based Techno > > i'm just curious to know how many of the producers you mentioned only > avoided using synths because they couldn't afford one; i.e. my point > is that it seems more likely that 'not using a common tool', at that > stage of the game, wasn't due to aesthetics. > > On Jan 3, 2008 6:06 PM, mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote: > > Yeah i know i was a bit unclear in my explanation of what I'm looking > for... > > Basically I'm not interested in synthy or electronic sounding music... > there > > are an abundant of awesome techno artists (Landstrumm, Daft Punk, LCD > > Soundsystem, Mike Ink, Headroom, etc) that I absolutely love, but Im > > wondering if there is any music or artists specializing in "sampled
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quoted 3 lines techno....> > techno.... > > > > Like you know how Cypress hill beats are very loopy and essentially
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quoted 3 lines the same 4 bar sample ripped out of an old jazz song or whatever... and> > the same 4 bar sample ripped out of an old jazz song or whatever... and > you > > hear the grittiness of the record crackle, the simplicity of the
repeated
quoted 1 line loops... i want that same lofi grittiness but in techno format....> > loops... i want that same lofi grittiness but in techno format....
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quoted 1 line much a hip hop beat with a different drum sequencing and faster> > much a hip hop beat with a different drum sequencing and faster
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quoted 20 lines Apologies for my ignorance, but yeah ive been out of the loop. ;)> > > > Apologies for my ignorance, but yeah ive been out of the loop. ;) > > > > M > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: folk devil [mailto:folkdevil_23@hotmail.com] > > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 4:01 PM > > To: idm@hyperreal.org > > Subject: RE: [idm] Sample Based Techno > > > > > > what about soft synths...? > > > > Element Abuse > > Smear > > Maggot Farmer > > DJ Producer > > Hellfish ..............................................> Date: Wed, 2
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quoted 2 lines 2008 23:23:31 -0800> From: r3tic@yahoo.com> To: mantrakid@neferiu.com;> > 2008 23:23:31 -0800> From: r3tic@yahoo.com> To: mantrakid@neferiu.com; > > idm@hyperreal.org> Subject: Re: [idm] Sample Based Techno> > Isolee?>
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quoted 10 lines Field?> > mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote: Can anyone click me> > Field?> > mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote: Can anyone click me > into > > some *good* sample based techno? Im talking 100%> sample & drum machine > > based or i guess more forgivingly - NO SYNTHS ALLOWED.> Does a thing > exist? > > Im looking for shit along the lines of 90's hip hop> production ala DJ > Muggs > > & Beastie Boys but more electronic-ey than hip hop,> with that gritty > sample > > based 'mood' to it. Almost like Akufen if his decay> knob broke off in
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quoted 3 lines (Zero Decay) position....> > > > What do you think?> > > > Mantra&> > (Zero Decay) position....> > > > What do you think?> > > > Mantra> > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > i'm is proud to present Cause Effect, a series about real people making
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2008-01-04 08:03dr. butcher m.d.http://www.discogs.com/release/522344 maybe too glitch & synths oriented compared to what
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http://www.discogs.com/release/522344 maybe too glitch & synths oriented compared to what you're looking for, but PLENTY of lo-fi, grittiness & record crackle type action going on. -drbmd -- On Fri, January 4, 2008 12:10 am, mantrakid wrote: --> But im not at all talking about production technology. It doesn't matter to --> me if the synth sound is coming out of a moog, mpc, reason, fruity loops or --> cool edit, a synth sound is a synth sound. --> --> I'm talking about sampling in the tradition of hip hop as i've said a few --> times now. So taking a clip of an old 70's funk song and making techno out --> of it. I can honestly say i have no consciously heard any music or artists --> doing that, so that's why im asking. --> --> I know techno is close to house/disco house/etc so i want to express that --> looping a 70's disco track with some 909 on top and some chick moaning & --> singing overtop it all is not what im talking about... --> --> I mean gritty dirty DJ Muggs, DJ Format, Mark B, Old Beastie Boys, etc. --> --> Here's an example *kinda* what im talking about but even this is a bit too --> glitchy & crisp. Im looking for more 'low fi' type shit. --> --> http://www.zshare.net/audio/6127257c3d16a2/ --> --> Don't mean to be a fucker but im getting frustrated cuz it seems like im --> either not expressing myself clearly or else im not being understood --> properly. In either situation, i apologize. :D --> --> Isnt this fun? --> --> .M --> --> -----Original Message----- --> From: Ed Hoc [mailto:meatsock@gmail.com] --> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 9:59 PM --> To: mantrakid --> Subject: Re: [idm] Sample Based Techno --> --> those aesthetics would include just using a computer 'at this stage in --> the game', i.e. 2007, so what's the difference between a soft synth --> and a soft sampler? --> --> On Jan 3, 2008 11:44 PM, mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote: -->> Exactly why im asking if anyone does it for aesthetics at this stage in --> the -->> game. -->> -->> -->> -----Original Message----- -->> From: Ed Hoc [mailto:meatsock@gmail.com] -->> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 6:32 PM -->> To: mantrakid -->> Cc: idm@hyperreal.org -->> Subject: Re: [idm] Sample Based Techno -->> -->> i'm just curious to know how many of the producers you mentioned only -->> avoided using synths because they couldn't afford one; i.e. my point -->> is that it seems more likely that 'not using a common tool', at that -->> stage of the game, wasn't due to aesthetics. -->> -->> On Jan 3, 2008 6:06 PM, mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote: -->> > Yeah i know i was a bit unclear in my explanation of what I'm looking -->> for... -->> > Basically I'm not interested in synthy or electronic sounding music... -->> there -->> > are an abundant of awesome techno artists (Landstrumm, Daft Punk, LCD -->> > Soundsystem, Mike Ink, Headroom, etc) that I absolutely love, but Im -->> > wondering if there is any music or artists specializing in "sampled --> music" -->> > techno.... -->> > -->> > Like you know how Cypress hill beats are very loopy and essentially --> repeat -->> > the same 4 bar sample ripped out of an old jazz song or whatever... and -->> you -->> > hear the grittiness of the record crackle, the simplicity of the --> repeated -->> > loops... i want that same lofi grittiness but in techno format.... --> pretty -->> > much a hip hop beat with a different drum sequencing and faster --> tempo.... -->> > -->> > Apologies for my ignorance, but yeah ive been out of the loop. ;) -->> > -->> > M -->> > -->> > -->> > -----Original Message----- -->> > From: folk devil [mailto:folkdevil_23@hotmail.com] -->> > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 4:01 PM -->> > To: idm@hyperreal.org -->> > Subject: RE: [idm] Sample Based Techno -->> > -->> > -->> > what about soft synths...? -->> > -->> > Element Abuse -->> > Smear -->> > Maggot Farmer -->> > DJ Producer -->> > Hellfish ..............................................> Date: Wed, 2 --> Jan -->> > 2008 23:23:31 -0800> From: r3tic@yahoo.com> To: mantrakid@neferiu.com; -->> > idm@hyperreal.org> Subject: Re: [idm] Sample Based Techno> > Isolee?> --> The -->> > Field?> > mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote: Can anyone click me -->> into -->> > some *good* sample based techno? Im talking 100%> sample & drum machine -->> > based or i guess more forgivingly - NO SYNTHS ALLOWED.> Does a thing -->> exist? -->> > Im looking for shit along the lines of 90's hip hop> production ala DJ -->> Muggs -->> > & Beastie Boys but more electronic-ey than hip hop,> with that gritty -->> sample -->> > based 'mood' to it. Almost like Akufen if his decay> knob broke off in --> the -->> > (Zero Decay) position....> > > > What do you think?> > > > Mantra> > -->> > _________________________________________________________________ -->> > i'm is proud to present Cause Effect, a series about real people making --> a -->> > difference. -->> > http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/MTV/?source=text_Cause_Effect -->> > -->> > -->> > -->> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- -->> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org -->> > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org -->> > -->> > -->> -->> -->> -->> -- -->> Please note: This e-mail was sent from a notification-only address -->> that cannot accept incoming e-mail. 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2008-01-04 08:26Patrick Matte | BLITZNot sure if thats what you meant by mentioning "Daft Punk" in you original post but check
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Not sure if thats what you meant by mentioning "Daft Punk" in you original post but check this : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJPdVVOmbz4 ________________________________________ De : mantrakid [mantrakid@neferiu.com] Date d'envoi : 3 janvier 2008 21:10 À : 'Armchair Techno' Objet : RE: [idm] Sample Based Techno But im not at all talking about production technology. It doesn't matter to me if the synth sound is coming out of a moog, mpc, reason, fruity loops or cool edit, a synth sound is a synth sound. I'm talking about sampling in the tradition of hip hop as i've said a few times now. So taking a clip of an old 70's funk song and making techno out of it. I can honestly say i have no consciously heard any music or artists doing that, so that's why im asking. I know techno is close to house/disco house/etc so i want to express that looping a 70's disco track with some 909 on top and some chick moaning & singing overtop it all is not what im talking about... I mean gritty dirty DJ Muggs, DJ Format, Mark B, Old Beastie Boys, etc. Here's an example *kinda* what im talking about but even this is a bit too glitchy & crisp. Im looking for more 'low fi' type shit. http://www.zshare.net/audio/6127257c3d16a2/ Don't mean to be a fucker but im getting frustrated cuz it seems like im either not expressing myself clearly or else im not being understood properly. In either situation, i apologize. :D Isnt this fun? .M -----Original Message----- From: Ed Hoc [mailto:meatsock@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 9:59 PM To: mantrakid Subject: Re: [idm] Sample Based Techno those aesthetics would include just using a computer 'at this stage in the game', i.e. 2007, so what's the difference between a soft synth and a soft sampler? On Jan 3, 2008 11:44 PM, mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote:
quoted 1 line Exactly why im asking if anyone does it for aesthetics at this stage in> Exactly why im asking if anyone does it for aesthetics at this stage in
the
quoted 23 lines game.> game. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ed Hoc [mailto:meatsock@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 6:32 PM > To: mantrakid > Cc: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [idm] Sample Based Techno > > i'm just curious to know how many of the producers you mentioned only > avoided using synths because they couldn't afford one; i.e. my point > is that it seems more likely that 'not using a common tool', at that > stage of the game, wasn't due to aesthetics. > > On Jan 3, 2008 6:06 PM, mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote: > > Yeah i know i was a bit unclear in my explanation of what I'm looking > for... > > Basically I'm not interested in synthy or electronic sounding music... > there > > are an abundant of awesome techno artists (Landstrumm, Daft Punk, LCD > > Soundsystem, Mike Ink, Headroom, etc) that I absolutely love, but Im > > wondering if there is any music or artists specializing in "sampled
music"
quoted 3 lines techno....> > techno.... > > > > Like you know how Cypress hill beats are very loopy and essentially
repeat
quoted 3 lines the same 4 bar sample ripped out of an old jazz song or whatever... and> > the same 4 bar sample ripped out of an old jazz song or whatever... and > you > > hear the grittiness of the record crackle, the simplicity of the
repeated
quoted 1 line loops... i want that same lofi grittiness but in techno format....> > loops... i want that same lofi grittiness but in techno format....
pretty
quoted 1 line much a hip hop beat with a different drum sequencing and faster> > much a hip hop beat with a different drum sequencing and faster
tempo....
quoted 20 lines Apologies for my ignorance, but yeah ive been out of the loop. ;)> > > > Apologies for my ignorance, but yeah ive been out of the loop. ;) > > > > M > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: folk devil [mailto:folkdevil_23@hotmail.com] > > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 4:01 PM > > To: idm@hyperreal.org > > Subject: RE: [idm] Sample Based Techno > > > > > > what about soft synths...? > > > > Element Abuse > > Smear > > Maggot Farmer > > DJ Producer > > Hellfish ..............................................> Date: Wed, 2
Jan
quoted 2 lines 2008 23:23:31 -0800> From: r3tic@yahoo.com> To: mantrakid@neferiu.com;> > 2008 23:23:31 -0800> From: r3tic@yahoo.com> To: mantrakid@neferiu.com; > > idm@hyperreal.org> Subject: Re: [idm] Sample Based Techno> > Isolee?>
The
quoted 10 lines Field?> > mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote: Can anyone click me> > Field?> > mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote: Can anyone click me > into > > some *good* sample based techno? Im talking 100%> sample & drum machine > > based or i guess more forgivingly - NO SYNTHS ALLOWED.> Does a thing > exist? > > Im looking for shit along the lines of 90's hip hop> production ala DJ > Muggs > > & Beastie Boys but more electronic-ey than hip hop,> with that gritty > sample > > based 'mood' to it. Almost like Akufen if his decay> knob broke off in
the
quoted 3 lines (Zero Decay) position....> > > > What do you think?> > > > Mantra&> > (Zero Decay) position....> > > > What do you think?> > > > Mantra> > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > i'm is proud to present Cause Effect, a series about real people making
a
quoted 34 lines difference.> > difference. > > http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/MTV/?source=text_Cause_Effect > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > > -- > Please note: This e-mail was sent from a notification-only address > that cannot accept incoming e-mail. Please do not reply to this > message. > > ---- > > pete lastname > meatsock@gmail.com > www.grep-fu.net > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2008-01-06 12:39simon leahyA double file Gæoudjiparl van den Dobbelsteen FREE computer music educational program Inst
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[idm] From the Goodiepal...
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A double file Gæoudjiparl van den Dobbelsteen FREE computer music educational program Instructions: Please load the two following files into your browser: Then press play on this one: http://brainwashed.com/vvm/downloads/gpal/various/goodiepal_maved_soundtrack.mp3 And as the countdown ends, please press play at this one: http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=5794365993783839326 Please link to this files and spread the word - 2008 reply here: http://vvmtest.freeforums.org/viewtopic.php?t=18&sid=a6888c0bbfaa4d3caa7fcc1cd198e4df _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail on your mobile, text MSN to 63463! http://mobile.uk.msn.com/pc/mail.aspx
2008-01-04 05:14mantrakidNow you're just fuckin with me. -----Original Message----- From: Ed Hoc [mailto:meatsock@g
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mantrakid
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'Ed Hoc'
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Date:
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RE: [idm] Sample Based Techno
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Now you're just fuckin with me. -----Original Message----- From: Ed Hoc [mailto:meatsock@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 10:13 PM To: mantrakid Subject: Re: [idm] Sample Based Techno so what about a sample of a record that has synth sounds? On Jan 4, 2008 12:10 AM, mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote:
quoted 1 line But im not at all talking about production technology. It doesn't matter> But im not at all talking about production technology. It doesn't matter
to
quoted 1 line me if the synth sound is coming out of a moog, mpc, reason, fruity loops> me if the synth sound is coming out of a moog, mpc, reason, fruity loops
or
quoted 69 lines cool edit, a synth sound is a synth sound.> cool edit, a synth sound is a synth sound. > > I'm talking about sampling in the tradition of hip hop as i've said a few > times now. So taking a clip of an old 70's funk song and making techno out > of it. I can honestly say i have no consciously heard any music or artists > doing that, so that's why im asking. > > I know techno is close to house/disco house/etc so i want to express that > looping a 70's disco track with some 909 on top and some chick moaning & > singing overtop it all is not what im talking about... > > I mean gritty dirty DJ Muggs, DJ Format, Mark B, Old Beastie Boys, etc. > > Here's an example *kinda* what im talking about but even this is a bit too > glitchy & crisp. Im looking for more 'low fi' type shit. > > http://www.zshare.net/audio/6127257c3d16a2/ > > Don't mean to be a fucker but im getting frustrated cuz it seems like im > either not expressing myself clearly or else im not being understood > properly. In either situation, i apologize. :D > > Isnt this fun? > > .M > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ed Hoc [mailto:meatsock@gmail.com] > > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 9:59 PM > To: mantrakid > Subject: Re: [idm] Sample Based Techno > > those aesthetics would include just using a computer 'at this stage in > the game', i.e. 2007, so what's the difference between a soft synth > and a soft sampler? > > On Jan 3, 2008 11:44 PM, mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote: > > Exactly why im asking if anyone does it for aesthetics at this stage in > the > > game. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ed Hoc [mailto:meatsock@gmail.com] > > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 6:32 PM > > To: mantrakid > > Cc: idm@hyperreal.org > > Subject: Re: [idm] Sample Based Techno > > > > i'm just curious to know how many of the producers you mentioned only > > avoided using synths because they couldn't afford one; i.e. my point > > is that it seems more likely that 'not using a common tool', at that > > stage of the game, wasn't due to aesthetics. > > > > On Jan 3, 2008 6:06 PM, mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote: > > > Yeah i know i was a bit unclear in my explanation of what I'm looking > > for... > > > Basically I'm not interested in synthy or electronic sounding music... > > there > > > are an abundant of awesome techno artists (Landstrumm, Daft Punk, LCD > > > Soundsystem, Mike Ink, Headroom, etc) that I absolutely love, but Im > > > wondering if there is any music or artists specializing in "sampled > music" > > > techno.... > > > > > > Like you know how Cypress hill beats are very loopy and essentially > repeat > > > the same 4 bar sample ripped out of an old jazz song or whatever...
and
quoted 34 lines you> > you > > > hear the grittiness of the record crackle, the simplicity of the > repeated > > > loops... i want that same lofi grittiness but in techno format.... > pretty > > > much a hip hop beat with a different drum sequencing and faster > tempo.... > > > > > > Apologies for my ignorance, but yeah ive been out of the loop. ;) > > > > > > M > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: folk devil [mailto:folkdevil_23@hotmail.com] > > > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 4:01 PM > > > To: idm@hyperreal.org > > > Subject: RE: [idm] Sample Based Techno > > > > > > > > > what about soft synths...? > > > > > > Element Abuse > > > Smear > > > Maggot Farmer > > > DJ Producer > > > Hellfish ..............................................> Date: Wed, 2 > Jan > > > 2008 23:23:31 -0800> From: r3tic@yahoo.com> To: mantrakid@neferiu.com; > > > idm@hyperreal.org> Subject: Re: [idm] Sample Based Techno> > Isolee?> > The > > > Field?> > mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote: Can anyone click me > > into > > > some *good* sample based techno? Im talking 100%> sample & drum
machine
quoted 11 lines based or i guess more forgivingly - NO SYNTHS ALLOWED.> Does a thing> > > based or i guess more forgivingly - NO SYNTHS ALLOWED.> Does a thing > > exist? > > > Im looking for shit along the lines of 90's hip hop> production ala DJ > > Muggs > > > & Beastie Boys but more electronic-ey than hip hop,> with that gritty > > sample > > > based 'mood' to it. Almost like Akufen if his decay> knob broke off in > the > > > (Zero Decay) position....> > > > What do you think?> > > > Mantra> > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > i'm is proud to present Cause Effect, a series about real people
making
quoted 55 lines a> a > > > difference. > > > http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/MTV/?source=text_Cause_Effect > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Please note: This e-mail was sent from a notification-only address > > that cannot accept incoming e-mail. Please do not reply to this > > message. > > > > ---- > > > > pete lastname > > meatsock@gmail.com > > www.grep-fu.net > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > > -- > Please note: This e-mail was sent from a notification-only address > that cannot accept incoming e-mail. Please do not reply to this > message. > > ---- > > pete lastname > meatsock@gmail.com > www.grep-fu.net > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2008-01-09 15:59mantrakidThis is EXACTLY what I was looking for. EXACTLY. Thank you so much. :D Nate -----Original
From:
mantrakid
To:
'Max & Mark'
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'idm list'
Date:
Wed, 09 Jan 2008 08:59:05 -0700
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RE: [idm] Sample Based Techno
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This is EXACTLY what I was looking for. EXACTLY. Thank you so much. :D Nate -----Original Message----- From: Max & Mark [mailto:expe@madicoinc.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 7:37 AM To: 'mantrakid' Subject: RE: [idm] Sample Based Techno I think this release is sampled only, and its pretty good , and its free http://www.vagueterrain.net/content/archives/journal07/des%20cailloux/vague% 20terrain%2007_%20sample%20culture_%20des%20cailloux%20et%20du%20carbone.zip peace -----Message d'origine----- De : mantrakid [mailto:mantrakid@neferiu.com] Envoyé : 4 janvier 2008 00:10 À : 'Armchair Techno' Objet : RE: [idm] Sample Based Techno But im not at all talking about production technology. It doesn't matter to me if the synth sound is coming out of a moog, mpc, reason, fruity loops or cool edit, a synth sound is a synth sound. I'm talking about sampling in the tradition of hip hop as i've said a few times now. So taking a clip of an old 70's funk song and making techno out of it. I can honestly say i have no consciously heard any music or artists doing that, so that's why im asking. I know techno is close to house/disco house/etc so i want to express that looping a 70's disco track with some 909 on top and some chick moaning & singing overtop it all is not what im talking about... I mean gritty dirty DJ Muggs, DJ Format, Mark B, Old Beastie Boys, etc. Here's an example *kinda* what im talking about but even this is a bit too glitchy & crisp. Im looking for more 'low fi' type shit. http://www.zshare.net/audio/6127257c3d16a2/ Don't mean to be a fucker but im getting frustrated cuz it seems like im either not expressing myself clearly or else im not being understood properly. In either situation, i apologize. :D Isnt this fun? .M -----Original Message----- From: Ed Hoc [mailto:meatsock@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 9:59 PM To: mantrakid Subject: Re: [idm] Sample Based Techno those aesthetics would include just using a computer 'at this stage in the game', i.e. 2007, so what's the difference between a soft synth and a soft sampler? On Jan 3, 2008 11:44 PM, mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote:
quoted 1 line Exactly why im asking if anyone does it for aesthetics at this stage in> Exactly why im asking if anyone does it for aesthetics at this stage in
the
quoted 23 lines game.> game. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ed Hoc [mailto:meatsock@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 6:32 PM > To: mantrakid > Cc: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [idm] Sample Based Techno > > i'm just curious to know how many of the producers you mentioned only > avoided using synths because they couldn't afford one; i.e. my point > is that it seems more likely that 'not using a common tool', at that > stage of the game, wasn't due to aesthetics. > > On Jan 3, 2008 6:06 PM, mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote: > > Yeah i know i was a bit unclear in my explanation of what I'm looking > for... > > Basically I'm not interested in synthy or electronic sounding music... > there > > are an abundant of awesome techno artists (Landstrumm, Daft Punk, LCD > > Soundsystem, Mike Ink, Headroom, etc) that I absolutely love, but Im > > wondering if there is any music or artists specializing in "sampled
music"
quoted 3 lines techno....> > techno.... > > > > Like you know how Cypress hill beats are very loopy and essentially
repeat
quoted 3 lines the same 4 bar sample ripped out of an old jazz song or whatever... and> > the same 4 bar sample ripped out of an old jazz song or whatever... and > you > > hear the grittiness of the record crackle, the simplicity of the
repeated
quoted 1 line loops... i want that same lofi grittiness but in techno format....> > loops... i want that same lofi grittiness but in techno format....
pretty
quoted 1 line much a hip hop beat with a different drum sequencing and faster> > much a hip hop beat with a different drum sequencing and faster
tempo....
quoted 20 lines Apologies for my ignorance, but yeah ive been out of the loop. ;)> > > > Apologies for my ignorance, but yeah ive been out of the loop. ;) > > > > M > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: folk devil [mailto:folkdevil_23@hotmail.com] > > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 4:01 PM > > To: idm@hyperreal.org > > Subject: RE: [idm] Sample Based Techno > > > > > > what about soft synths...? > > > > Element Abuse > > Smear > > Maggot Farmer > > DJ Producer > > Hellfish ..............................................> Date: Wed, 2
Jan
quoted 2 lines 2008 23:23:31 -0800> From: r3tic@yahoo.com> To: mantrakid@neferiu.com;> > 2008 23:23:31 -0800> From: r3tic@yahoo.com> To: mantrakid@neferiu.com; > > idm@hyperreal.org> Subject: Re: [idm] Sample Based Techno> > Isolee?>
The
quoted 10 lines Field?> > mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote: Can anyone click me> > Field?> > mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote: Can anyone click me > into > > some *good* sample based techno? Im talking 100%> sample & drum machine > > based or i guess more forgivingly - NO SYNTHS ALLOWED.> Does a thing > exist? > > Im looking for shit along the lines of 90's hip hop> production ala DJ > Muggs > > & Beastie Boys but more electronic-ey than hip hop,> with that gritty > sample > > based 'mood' to it. Almost like Akufen if his decay> knob broke off in
the
quoted 3 lines (Zero Decay) position....> > > > What do you think?> > > > Mantra&> > (Zero Decay) position....> > > > What do you think?> > > > Mantra> > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > i'm is proud to present Cause Effect, a series about real people making
a
quoted 34 lines difference.> > difference. > > http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/MTV/?source=text_Cause_Effect > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > > -- > Please note: This e-mail was sent from a notification-only address > that cannot accept incoming e-mail. Please do not reply to this > message. > > ---- > > pete lastname > meatsock@gmail.com > www.grep-fu.net > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2008-01-09 16:26mantrakidAnd yes, though may synths *may* have be used - this doesn’t sound 'synthy' at ALL. (Meats
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And yes, though may synths *may* have be used - this doesn’t sound 'synthy' at ALL. (Meatsock) -----Original Message----- From: Max & Mark [mailto:expe@madicoinc.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 7:37 AM To: 'mantrakid' Subject: RE: [idm] Sample Based Techno I think this release is sampled only, and its pretty good , and its free http://www.vagueterrain.net/content/archives/journal07/des%20cailloux/vague% 20terrain%2007_%20sample%20culture_%20des%20cailloux%20et%20du%20carbone.zip peace -----Message d'origine----- De : mantrakid [mailto:mantrakid@neferiu.com] Envoyé : 4 janvier 2008 00:10 À : 'Armchair Techno' Objet : RE: [idm] Sample Based Techno But im not at all talking about production technology. It doesn't matter to me if the synth sound is coming out of a moog, mpc, reason, fruity loops or cool edit, a synth sound is a synth sound. I'm talking about sampling in the tradition of hip hop as i've said a few times now. So taking a clip of an old 70's funk song and making techno out of it. I can honestly say i have no consciously heard any music or artists doing that, so that's why im asking. I know techno is close to house/disco house/etc so i want to express that looping a 70's disco track with some 909 on top and some chick moaning & singing overtop it all is not what im talking about... I mean gritty dirty DJ Muggs, DJ Format, Mark B, Old Beastie Boys, etc. Here's an example *kinda* what im talking about but even this is a bit too glitchy & crisp. Im looking for more 'low fi' type shit. http://www.zshare.net/audio/6127257c3d16a2/ Don't mean to be a fucker but im getting frustrated cuz it seems like im either not expressing myself clearly or else im not being understood properly. In either situation, i apologize. :D Isnt this fun? .M -----Original Message----- From: Ed Hoc [mailto:meatsock@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 9:59 PM To: mantrakid Subject: Re: [idm] Sample Based Techno those aesthetics would include just using a computer 'at this stage in the game', i.e. 2007, so what's the difference between a soft synth and a soft sampler? On Jan 3, 2008 11:44 PM, mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote:
quoted 1 line Exactly why im asking if anyone does it for aesthetics at this stage in> Exactly why im asking if anyone does it for aesthetics at this stage in
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quoted 23 lines game.> game. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ed Hoc [mailto:meatsock@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 6:32 PM > To: mantrakid > Cc: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [idm] Sample Based Techno > > i'm just curious to know how many of the producers you mentioned only > avoided using synths because they couldn't afford one; i.e. my point > is that it seems more likely that 'not using a common tool', at that > stage of the game, wasn't due to aesthetics. > > On Jan 3, 2008 6:06 PM, mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote: > > Yeah i know i was a bit unclear in my explanation of what I'm looking > for... > > Basically I'm not interested in synthy or electronic sounding music... > there > > are an abundant of awesome techno artists (Landstrumm, Daft Punk, LCD > > Soundsystem, Mike Ink, Headroom, etc) that I absolutely love, but Im > > wondering if there is any music or artists specializing in "sampled
music"
quoted 3 lines techno....> > techno.... > > > > Like you know how Cypress hill beats are very loopy and essentially
repeat
quoted 3 lines the same 4 bar sample ripped out of an old jazz song or whatever... and> > the same 4 bar sample ripped out of an old jazz song or whatever... and > you > > hear the grittiness of the record crackle, the simplicity of the
repeated
quoted 1 line loops... i want that same lofi grittiness but in techno format....> > loops... i want that same lofi grittiness but in techno format....
pretty
quoted 1 line much a hip hop beat with a different drum sequencing and faster> > much a hip hop beat with a different drum sequencing and faster
tempo....
quoted 20 lines Apologies for my ignorance, but yeah ive been out of the loop. ;)> > > > Apologies for my ignorance, but yeah ive been out of the loop. ;) > > > > M > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: folk devil [mailto:folkdevil_23@hotmail.com] > > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 4:01 PM > > To: idm@hyperreal.org > > Subject: RE: [idm] Sample Based Techno > > > > > > what about soft synths...? > > > > Element Abuse > > Smear > > Maggot Farmer > > DJ Producer > > Hellfish ..............................................> Date: Wed, 2
Jan
quoted 2 lines 2008 23:23:31 -0800> From: r3tic@yahoo.com> To: mantrakid@neferiu.com;> > 2008 23:23:31 -0800> From: r3tic@yahoo.com> To: mantrakid@neferiu.com; > > idm@hyperreal.org> Subject: Re: [idm] Sample Based Techno> > Isolee?>
The
quoted 10 lines Field?> > mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote: Can anyone click me> > Field?> > mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote: Can anyone click me > into > > some *good* sample based techno? Im talking 100%> sample & drum machine > > based or i guess more forgivingly - NO SYNTHS ALLOWED.> Does a thing > exist? > > Im looking for shit along the lines of 90's hip hop> production ala DJ > Muggs > > & Beastie Boys but more electronic-ey than hip hop,> with that gritty > sample > > based 'mood' to it. Almost like Akufen if his decay> knob broke off in
the
quoted 3 lines (Zero Decay) position....> > > > What do you think?> > > > Mantra&> > (Zero Decay) position....> > > > What do you think?> > > > Mantra> > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > i'm is proud to present Cause Effect, a series about real people making
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quoted 34 lines difference.> > difference. > > http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/MTV/?source=text_Cause_Effect > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > > -- > Please note: This e-mail was sent from a notification-only address > that cannot accept incoming e-mail. Please do not reply to this > message. > > ---- > > pete lastname > meatsock@gmail.com > www.grep-fu.net > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2008-01-11 14:59Joe Carrollthanks for the link to the des cailloux et du carbone EP -- very nice indeed. if you like
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Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:59:51 +0200
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Re: [idm] Sample Based Techno
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thanks for the link to the des cailloux et du carbone EP -- very nice indeed. if you like this, you might want to check out "from here we go the sublime" by the field On 10 Jan 2008, at 23:28, idm-digest-help@hyperreal.org wrote:
quoted 59 lines -----Original Message-----> -----Original Message----- > From: Max & Mark [mailto:expe@madicoinc.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 7:37 AM > To: 'mantrakid' > Subject: RE: [idm] Sample Based Techno > > I think this release is sampled only, and its pretty good , and its > free > > http://www.vagueterrain.net/content/archives/journal07/des%20cailloux/vague > % > 20terrain%2007_%20sample%20culture_%20des%20cailloux%20et%20du > %20carbone.zip > > peace > > > -----Message d'origine----- > De : mantrakid [mailto:mantrakid@neferiu.com] > Envoyé : 4 janvier 2008 00:10 > À : 'Armchair Techno' > Objet : RE: [idm] Sample Based Techno > > But im not at all talking about production technology. It doesn't > matter to > me if the synth sound is coming out of a moog, mpc, reason, fruity > loops or > cool edit, a synth sound is a synth sound. > > I'm talking about sampling in the tradition of hip hop as i've said > a few > times now. So taking a clip of an old 70's funk song and making > techno out > of it. I can honestly say i have no consciously heard any music or > artists > doing that, so that's why im asking. > > I know techno is close to house/disco house/etc so i want to express > that > looping a 70's disco track with some 909 on top and some chick > moaning & > singing overtop it all is not what im talking about... > > I mean gritty dirty DJ Muggs, DJ Format, Mark B, Old Beastie Boys, > etc. > > Here's an example *kinda* what im talking about but even this is a > bit too > glitchy & crisp. Im looking for more 'low fi' type shit. > > http://www.zshare.net/audio/6127257c3d16a2/ > > Don't mean to be a fucker but im getting frustrated cuz it seems > like im > either not expressing myself clearly or else im not being understood > properly. In either situation, i apologize. :D > > Isnt this fun? >