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2006-06-05 23:29wownflutter [idm] Boxcutter and two-step dub
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└─ 2006-06-06 09:52Alan Lockett Re: [idm] Boxcutter and two-step dub
└─ 2006-06-06 10:02Emile Facey - Plant43 [idm] Split 2 on Ai
2006-06-08 14:49David Sim Re: [idm] Boxcutter and two-step dub
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2006-06-05 23:29wownflutterHi folks I first read a glowing review of Boxcutter in Wire Magazine. Then: http://www.bbc
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Hi folks I first read a glowing review of Boxcutter in Wire Magazine. Then: http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/collective/A11263376 Checked it out and they say he is doing very innovative stuff.... elaborating on two-step dub... Im not a dj, I do like Oneiric, but am trying to figure out what these reviewers are hearing as being so differentiated than other artists. Can someone explain why Boxcutter's "onereic" is considered ground-breaking? Thx in advance :-) wnf __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2006-06-05 23:54Ed Hocjournalists are retards. On 6/5/06, wownflutter <wownflutter@yahoo.com> wrote: > Hi folks
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journalists are retards. On 6/5/06, wownflutter <wownflutter@yahoo.com> wrote:
quoted 34 lines Hi folks> Hi folks > > I first read a glowing review of Boxcutter in Wire > Magazine. > > Then: > http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/collective/A11263376 > > Checked it out and they say he is doing very > innovative stuff.... elaborating on two-step dub... > > Im not a dj, I do like Oneiric, but am trying to > figure out what these reviewers are hearing as being > so differentiated than other artists. > > Can someone explain why Boxcutter's "onereic" is > considered ground-breaking? > > Thx in advance :-) > > wnf > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2006-06-06 09:52Alan LockettFirst of all, I haven't read The Wire review, but the one at the bbc link posted here is c
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First of all, I haven't read The Wire review, but the one at the bbc link posted here is certainly glowing. Having said that, I wouldn't read it as implying that Boxcutter's doing anything 'groundbreaking'. I think it relates rather to someone taking a (sub-)genre template and cross-breeding/hybridising it to make it sound somehow fresh. Hence the ref. to that ubiquitous 'cutting edge'. Basically, I think you can be 'cutting edge' without being especially *innovative*. The former has more to do with being on the cusp of the evolutionary moment (blah blah), but I guess we're into semantics here, and not music. Turning to which... 'Oneiric' is certainly energetic and vibrant music, premised on dubstep kinetics, but sneaking out magpie tentacles (ok, so magpies don't have tentacles... go with it... 'cutting edge' prose, innit) to pilfer shiny objects from elsewhere to festoon around its sound field. That said, it's not essentially 'radical' or a 'bold departure' or whatever other signifiers review discourse might allude to. It's just good sh1t, innit. The Burial album is another one that's had the scribes straining similarly to elevate, but, again, it's something that someone's seen as being somehow on the crest of the 'Zeitgeist' (scuse me), and if you hold it up to the light there's no massive paradigm-shifting going on. Good sh1t, again. But you don't get critical kudos from writing that. Most critics are most certainly not 'retards', as a previous correspondent uncharitably suggested, but they do sometimes tend to reach for something greater or 'beyond' in their appraisals, and in so doing, may overreach themselves. alan --On 05 June 2006 16:29 -0700 wownflutter <wownflutter@yahoo.com> wrote:
quoted 33 lines Hi folks> Hi folks > > I first read a glowing review of Boxcutter in Wire > Magazine. > > Then: > http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/collective/A11263376 > > Checked it out and they say he is doing very > innovative stuff.... elaborating on two-step dub... > > Im not a dj, I do like Oneiric, but am trying to > figure out what these reviewers are hearing as being > so differentiated than other artists. > > Can someone explain why Boxcutter's "onereic" is > considered ground-breaking? > > Thx in advance :-) > > wnf > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2006-06-06 10:02Emile Facey - Plant43Hi All, my first post on IDM! :) Anyone here got the new Split 2 on Ai (ERP and Mariel Ito
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Hi All, my first post on IDM! :) Anyone here got the new Split 2 on Ai (ERP and Mariel Ito)? If so what do people think? Emile --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2006-06-08 14:49David Sim> First of all, I haven't read The Wire review, but the one at the bbc link > posted here
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quoted 5 lines First of all, I haven't read The Wire review, but the one at the bbc link> First of all, I haven't read The Wire review, but the one at the bbc link > posted here is certainly glowing. Having said that, I wouldn't read it as > implying that Boxcutter's doing anything 'groundbreaking'. I think it > relates rather to someone taking a (sub-)genre template and > cross-breeding/hybridising it to make it sound somehow fresh.
The annoying thing is the way that a lot of journos then lionize this sort of hybridizing - which tends to back away from what's so new and exciting about the style (in this case the bass centric minimalism) while at best ignoring and often disparaging the people who are at the cutting edge of actually rewriting the subgenre template. Speaking of dubstep, I'm off to see Loefah in Nottingham tonight. I'm a little excited. Speaking of recent albums, the new Breakage is rather nice - it's not got the amen choppage styles (or quite the raw excellence) of the Planet Mu 12", but it is Pretty Good - minimal atmospheric drum and bass, intelligent but still razor sharp, a nice antidote to the current gurn-step dominating the clubs. CD2 consists of some interesting downtempo stuff, too. Dave This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses, which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org