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Re: [idm] Re: idm Digest 11 May 2006 15:19:06 -0000 Issue 2891

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2006-05-11 16:50Robert Stanton [idm] Re: idm Digest 11 May 2006 15:19:06 -0000 Issue 2891
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└─ 2006-05-11 18:45Erik Mallinson Re: [idm] Re: idm Digest 11 May 2006 15:19:06 -0000 Issue 2891
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2006-05-11 16:50Robert Stanton>>> - provide some context for the music, even for someone that doesn't follow the genre.
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- provide some context for the music, even for someone that doesn't follow the genre. Good examples are similar artists, other works in the same vein, that sort of thing - give some insight as to the palette of sounds used, and some idea as to the techniques of the composer(s) - tell where the music fits - is it good driving music? sea shanties to sing at the pub over a pint? psychedelia best suited for use while under the influence? a good CD to put on before bed? music for getting into a college girl's panties? - provide a little history of the artist, perhaps with some insight as to where the current work fits within their catalog - track by track breakdowns can be excessive, but pick out a song or two and talk about them specifically - if it's on an interesting label, that should be mentioned.
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This is about the most generic way to "review" anything and also the most depressing to read from my perspective. Unfortunately, it's also the easiest and most mainstream way, hence probably why the writer of this advice reviews "CD's for a paper with a 100,000+ weekly readership"... The end result is, roughly, an advertisement that conveys very little insight to the reader. The reviewer attempts to express her/his subjective experience with the music to someone else who most likely has no relation to the reviewer. This anonymity and alienation render the writing uninformitive and, perhaps, a subjective lie. Are artists really that similar where their ideas and work can be conflated in some rather arbitrary way? Has anyone not grown tired of the "if you enjoy X, then you definately want to check out Y" salesmanship effort that typically leads to heightened expectations and a bitter let-down? Making relational statements is not very meaningful from person to person, unless we know that person's tastes and influences, which the anonymous reader/reviewer relationship does not allow for. Can anyone adequately describe digitally generated sounds, things that have no bearing in reality? "The song opens with a stream of sounds that bring to mind the high-pitched screeches my old 56k modem used to make near the end of its life." This is not helpful, nor very meaningful for the reader. Would I like to hear that sound? It seems interesting, but it depends on how its used within the greater context of the song and album. Where the music fits? Why should we try to force music into any one arena or environment? Doesn't this change with the person? See the whole 'being' versus 'becoming' problem. Shouldn't we respect music and the artist's work more than using it as background filler for "getting into a college girl's panties"? Even the most "ambient" of ambient music has influences on the listener - why aren't we paying attention to this? I dislike reviews that attempt to describe an artistic work at the simplest levels. What it sounds like, who else it sounds like, etc. This is basically a book review that describes the plot: it's condensed, loses all of its nuances, derivative, and reduces the work to nothing more than a consumable object. Additionally, no review like this will ever be as good as listening to the tracks themselves and making up one's own mind, even if it's a low-quality MP3 off the artist or label's website. If you're going to write something about music, write a serious, well-thought and researched essay on what you believe it means, if anything. If you're going to talk about sounds, talk about how they influence the overall structure of the album, what they mean within the song/album. Situate the work and the creator in the appropriate social, economic, political, and historical climate: it's not a creation divorced from any of these. -r --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2006-05-11 17:18imonroe@gmail.comHey, I agree with you. In the best of all possible worlds, each album you review would be
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Hey, I agree with you. In the best of all possible worlds, each album you review would be thouroughly dissected, with sufficient background information to help anyone, regardless of their level of musical education, nuances discussed, techniques analyzed, etc. etc. Here's the problem - how do you do that in 250 words? Or 500? How do you present valuable information on good music to an audience that, by and large, relies on Clear Channel for their notions of new music? I recently reviewed the AFX - Chosen Lords album for our paper. I was allotted enough space for a 250 word review. When I finished my first draft, it was nearly a thousand words, and I thought I was being economical with the verbage. Needless to say, I had to re-think the whole thing. There were a lot of interesting points about that album, from it's inception, the Analord series of vinyl, the marketing aspect, and of course, the music itself, and the tracks chosen for the album as opposed to the rest of the 41 tracks. But I had to choose only a couple, and try to give folks an impression of the album, even if they've never heard of RDJ. While your thinking on the subject is noble, you forget that in the world of print, at any rate, you only can say as much as you can fit into the space available. You can only get as in-depth as your time and space constraints allow. And sure, you can talk about the obvious influence of Stockhausen, or the nuances between a live performance and a previously recorded version. But you know what? If your references are too arcane, or outside of the experience of your average reader, then the overall effect is to obfuscate rather than to clarify. There's practical considerations, that's all I'm saying. If the ad folks only sell enough ads for an 88 page book, then we only have 88 pages to work with, no matter how insightful your review of the new Andrew W.K. album is, no matter how valid your opinions on effects of mashups on pop culture, no matter how much research you put into finding out the personal stories of the new hip hop collective on the other side of town. A review doesn't need to make your readers feel like they've listened to the album. It just needs to let them know whether it's something that they might want to check out on their own. My .02 -Ian On 5/11/06, Robert Stanton <robert.l.stanton@gmail.com> wrote:
quoted 18 lines I dislike reviews that attempt to describe an artistic work at the> > > I dislike reviews that attempt to describe an artistic work at the > simplest levels. What it sounds like, who else it sounds like, etc. > This is basically a book review that describes the plot: it's > condensed, loses all of its nuances, derivative, and reduces the work > to nothing more than a consumable object. Additionally, no review > like this will ever be as good as listening to the tracks themselves > and making up one's own mind, even if it's a low-quality MP3 off the > artist or label's website. > If you're going to write something about music, write a serious, > well-thought and researched essay on what you believe it means, if > anything. If you're going to talk about sounds, talk about how they > influence the overall structure of the album, what they mean within > the song/album. Situate the work and the creator in the appropriate > social, economic, political, and historical climate: it's not a > creation divorced from any of these. >
2006-05-11 18:45Erik Mallinson> A review doesn't need to make your readers feel like they've listened to > the > album.
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quoted 4 lines A review doesn't need to make your readers feel like they've listened to> A review doesn't need to make your readers feel like they've listened to > the > album. It just needs to let them know whether it's something that they > might want to check out on their own.
I agree with that, though a website has no problem with a page count. There is a point where people stop reading though. It really depends on who your market is. If you are catering to music enthusiasts (general populace) electronic music listeners music geeks (eg - people who get cd and vinyl of everything) music makers (generally members of all three previous groups) They're all going to want different things from a review. Personally, I'm sick of those 'sassy' reviews things like Vice give. The "in your face" approach to writing gets tired. Fast. It's like *X-Treme Music Reviews* or something. It's a shtick. Erik Mallinson Sonic Heart Magazine http://sonicheart.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org