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Looks like Warp screwed up on the CD release... the last 2 tracks are labeled incorrectly. Come on, guys! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

it's an afx conspiracy! On 11/1/05, Matt Tasker <mtasker@optonline.net> wrote:

quoted 8 lines Looks like Warp screwed up on the CD release... the last 2 tracks are

> Looks like Warp screwed up on the CD release... the last 2 tracks are > labeled incorrectly. Come on, guys! > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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last two? 07 Every Day 08 Arched Maid well the last one but track seven seems to be the same. rb Looks like Warp screwed up on the CD release... the last 2 tracks are labeled incorrectly. Come on, guys! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

rb wrote:

quoted 7 lines last two?

> > last two? > > 07 Every Day > 08 Arched Maid > > well the last one but track seven seems to be the same.

On the disc itself, track 7 is actually Arched Maid Via RDJ (the 5+ minute track with metallic synth solo) and track 8 is Every Day (3+ minute track with vocal samples). --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 03:50:35PM -0500, Matt Tasker wrote:

quoted 3 lines On the disc itself, track 7 is actually Arched Maid Via RDJ (the 5+

> On the disc itself, track 7 is actually Arched Maid Via RDJ (the 5+ > minute track with metallic synth solo) and track 8 is Every Day (3+ > minute track with vocal samples).

Not on mine - they're the other (right) way round... -- http://www.lexical.org.uk/ | http://covertmusic.com/ | work: adw27@cam.ac.uk "nineteen sixty-nine in the sunshine" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Andrew Walkingshaw wrote:

quoted 8 lines On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 03:50:35PM -0500, Matt Tasker wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 03:50:35PM -0500, Matt Tasker wrote: > >>On the disc itself, track 7 is actually Arched Maid Via RDJ (the 5+ >>minute track with metallic synth solo) and track 8 is Every Day (3+ >>minute track with vocal samples). > > > Not on mine - they're the other (right) way round...

The mystery deepens... did they print the correct track times on the case? My copy looks like: ... 7 Every Day (5:21) 8 Arched Maid Via RDJ (3:48) Matt --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 04:22:51PM -0500, Matt Tasker wrote: [HAB1+2 EP mispressings]

quoted 9 lines Not on mine - they're the other (right) way round...

> > > >Not on mine - they're the other (right) way round... > > The mystery deepens... > did they print the correct track times on the case? My copy looks like: > > ... > 7 Every Day (5:21) > 8 Arched Maid Via RDJ (3:48)

Mine has: 7. Every Day (3:48) 8. Arched Maid Via RDJ (5:21) bought in Fopp, Cambridge, on Monday. Weeeird. Could be the non-UK pressings are screwed up. Andrew -- http://www.lexical.org.uk/ | http://covertmusic.com/ | work: adw27@cam.ac.uk "i'm thinking six" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Agreed. track listings are in the correct order, but the track times for #7 and 8 are swapped. (cd case shows track 8 is longer than 7) I was hoping for some Warp freebee's too (stickers/keychains/etc.) nothing. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Tasker" <mtasker@optonline.net> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [idm] Hangable Auto Bulb

quoted 24 lines Andrew Walkingshaw wrote:

> Andrew Walkingshaw wrote: >> On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 03:50:35PM -0500, Matt Tasker wrote: >> >>>On the disc itself, track 7 is actually Arched Maid Via RDJ (the 5+ >>>minute track with metallic synth solo) and track 8 is Every Day (3+ >>>minute track with vocal samples). >> >> >> Not on mine - they're the other (right) way round... > > The mystery deepens... > did they print the correct track times on the case? My copy looks like: > > ... > 7 Every Day (5:21) > 8 Arched Maid Via RDJ (3:48) > > > Matt > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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does anyone know how many minutes (maximum) will fit on an audio cd that will be sure to play on most everyone's cd player? thanks, -z -- fourthcity 2005 ; slow yr roll. ---> http://www.fourthcity.net/ quick links: > http://www.fourthcity.net/ [ fct] > http://www.zapan.net/ [ zapan] > http://www.laptopbattle.org/ [ battle] > http://www.postermidget.com/ [ midget] + + + + + + + ----> much love! from the fourthcity studios <---- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

the theoretical capacity is 74 minutes - don't know whether this is exact or not. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_disc i wouldn't put more than 70 minutes on a cd. maybe it's just superstition, but i reckon the edges get dirty and damaged sooner than the middle, and if there are any slight manufacturing flaws the effect would be magnified towards the edge. if the drive has been designed with no spare anything then it might be at the edge of its engineering tolerance too - meaning that the tracking has a greater chance of failing right at the outside edge. but then i am a nervous type. i know some scary people that go right up to the 74, or more, even on commercial mass market releases! cheerio paul On 7 Nov 2005, at 17:14, > wrote:

quoted 42 lines does anyone know how many minutes (maximum) will fit on an audio cd

> does anyone know how many minutes (maximum) will fit on an audio cd > that > will be sure to play on most everyone's cd player? > > thanks, > -z > > > > -- > > fourthcity 2005 ; slow yr roll. ---> http://www.fourthcity.net/ > > > quick links: > > >> http://www.fourthcity.net/ [ fct] >> http://www.zapan.net/ [ zapan] >> http://www.laptopbattle.org/ [ battle] >> http://www.postermidget.com/ [ midget] >> >> > > > + > + > + > + + > + > + > > > ----> much love! from the fourthcity studios <---- > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > >

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80 minutes is what you'll typically find most CDR's to be. There is some burning software that will allow you to go over that, with the warning that it may not burn properly or be playable in all players. 80 minutes is standard - shorter 70 or 74 (I don't recall exactly what the shorter ones run at) minute CDR's may not play in older CD players, as the width of the tracks is not the same (that's why they're shorter - they use just as much area as the longer discs for less data). I.W. On 11/7/05, << z a p a n >> <zapan@fourthcity.net> wrote:

quoted 37 lines does anyone know how many minutes (maximum) will fit on an audio cd that

> > does anyone know how many minutes (maximum) will fit on an audio cd that > will be sure to play on most everyone's cd player? > > thanks, > -z > > > > -- > > fourthcity 2005 ; slow yr roll. ---> http://www.fourthcity.net/ > > > quick links: > > http://www.fourthcity.net/ [ fct] > > http://www.zapan.net/ [ zapan] > > http://www.laptopbattle.org/ [ battle] > > http://www.postermidget.com/ [ midget] > > > + > + > + > + + > + > + > > > ----> much love! from the fourthcity studios <---- > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

quoted 5 lines 80 minutes is

> 80 minutes is > standard - shorter 70 or 74 (I don't recall exactly what the shorter ones > run at) minute CDR's may not play in older CD players, as the width of the > tracks is not the same (that's why they're shorter - they use just as much > area as the longer discs for less data).

The Red Book specification for CD length is 74 minutes: http://searchstorage.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,,sid5_gci503642,00.html Any CD longer than that is technically out of spec. Your statement above is exactly backwards--it's CDs longer than 74 minutes that might have problems (although those problems are quite rare). --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

I'm no expert, but the red book specs were written in 1980/1, right? jeff

quoted 11 lines The Red Book specification for CD length is 74 minutes:

>The Red Book specification for CD length is 74 minutes: > >http://searchstorage.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,,sid5_gci503642,00.html > >Any CD longer than that is technically out of spec. Your statement above >is exactly backwards--it's CDs longer than 74 minutes that might have >problems (although those problems are quite rare). > > > >

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quoted 1 line I'm no expert, but the red book specs were written in 1980/1, right?

> I'm no expert, but the red book specs were written in 1980/1, right?

Yes. It's still the defining specification for CD audio, though. If you're worried about compatibility with all players (as the original poster specifically asked about), you should comply with the Red Book and keep your CDs 74 minutes or less (and use 74-minute CD-Rs; an 80-minute CD-R isn't Red Book even if it has less than 74 minutes of audio on it). But it's mostly a theoretical problem. Even my first CD player (c. 1985) had no trouble with >74 minute CDs. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

my CD player plays bologna. Tim Walters wrote:

quoted 21 lines I'm no expert, but the red book specs were written in 1980/1, right?

>>I'm no expert, but the red book specs were written in 1980/1, right? >> >> > >Yes. It's still the defining specification for CD audio, though. If you're >worried about compatibility with all players (as the original poster >specifically asked about), you should comply with the Red Book and keep >your CDs 74 minutes or less (and use 74-minute CD-Rs; an 80-minute CD-R >isn't Red Book even if it has less than 74 minutes of audio on it). > >But it's mostly a theoretical problem. Even my first CD player (c. 1985) >had no trouble with >74 minute CDs. > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > >

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