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2005-11-03 02:24PR [idm] The Definition of IDM?
2005-11-03 02:52Jong-Ilist Massive Re: [idm] The Definition of IDM?
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2005-11-03 02:24PRHere's an interesting article/essay written by Stefan Koopmanschap regarding his views on
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Here's an interesting article/essay written by Stefan Koopmanschap regarding his views on the "IDM" acronym and its many definitions.... -- -- The Definition of IDM? Read full article :: http://igloomag.com/doc.php?task=view&id=1155&category=features Stefan Koopmanschap (Electronic Music World) attempts to assimilate the definition of "IDM," an acronym initially coined as a mailing list via Hyperreal.org in the early 90s. -- -- :: Pietrobot :: http://www.pietrobot.com Electronic Music Exposure PO Box 307, Corona, CA 92878 USA --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2005-11-03 02:52Jong-Ilist MassiveI could go on and on and on probably, it's impossible to stop writing about IDM, since the
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I could go on and on and on probably, it's impossible to stop writing about IDM, since there are an infinite number of definitions and an infinite number of variations. On 11/2/05, PR <pietrobot@digitalnimbus.com> wrote:
quoted 28 lines Here's an interesting article/essay written by> > Here's an interesting article/essay written by > Stefan Koopmanschap regarding his views on > the "IDM" acronym and its many definitions.... > > -- -- > The Definition of IDM? > > Read full article :: > http://igloomag.com/doc.php?task=view&id=1155&category=features > > Stefan Koopmanschap (Electronic Music World) attempts > to assimilate the definition of "IDM," an acronym initially > coined as a mailing list via Hyperreal.org in the early 90s. > -- -- > > > :: > Pietrobot :: http://www.pietrobot.com > Electronic Music Exposure > PO Box 307, Corona, CA 92878 USA > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2005-11-03 03:24nat hawksit is important to note that IDM is, in many cases it seems, a more general "default" titl
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it is important to note that IDM is, in many cases it seems, a more general "default" title for electronic music that has some semblance of brain behind it... otto von schirach... ulrich schnauss... these two artists (to name a quick pair) have absolutely nothing in common... yet both are IDM. the term is as meaningful as "rock"
quoted 50 lines From: Jong-Ilist Massive <meatsock@gmail.com>>From: Jong-Ilist Massive <meatsock@gmail.com> >To: PR <pietrobot@digitalnimbus.com> >CC: idm@hyperreal.org, ambient@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [idm] The Definition of IDM? >Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 21:52:18 -0500 > >I could go on and on and on probably, it's impossible to stop writing >about IDM, since there are an infinite number of definitions and an >infinite number of variations. > >On 11/2/05, PR <pietrobot@digitalnimbus.com> wrote: > > > > Here's an interesting article/essay written by > > Stefan Koopmanschap regarding his views on > > the "IDM" acronym and its many definitions.... > > > > -- -- > > The Definition of IDM? > > > > Read full article :: > > http://igloomag.com/doc.php?task=view&id=1155&category=features > > > > Stefan Koopmanschap (Electronic Music World) attempts > > to assimilate the definition of "IDM," an acronym initially > > coined as a mailing list via Hyperreal.org in the early 90s. > > -- -- > > > > > > :: > > Pietrobot :: http://www.pietrobot.com > > Electronic Music Exposure > > PO Box 307, Corona, CA 92878 USA > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > >-- >pete lastname >meatsock@gmail.com >www.grep-fu.net > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2005-11-03 06:03Matt TaskerJong-Ilist Massive wrote: > I could go on and on and on probably, it's impossible to stop
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Jong-Ilist Massive wrote:
quoted 3 lines I could go on and on and on probably, it's impossible to stop writing> I could go on and on and on probably, it's impossible to stop writing > about IDM, since there are an infinite number of definitions and an > infinite number of variations.
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2005-11-03 17:58michal urbanskiOn Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 01:03:28AM -0500, Matt Tasker wrote: > Jong-Ilist Massive wrote: >
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On Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 01:03:28AM -0500, Matt Tasker wrote:
quoted 6 lines Jong-Ilist Massive wrote:> Jong-Ilist Massive wrote: > >I could go on and on and on probably, it's impossible to stop writing > >about IDM, since there are an infinite number of definitions and an > >infinite number of variations. > > Infinitely Defined Moniker?
s/Defined/Debated/ is closer to the truth. -michal --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2005-11-03 12:29David Sim> it is important to note that IDM is, in many cases it seems, a more general > "default"
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quoted 3 lines it is important to note that IDM is, in many cases it seems, a more general> it is important to note that IDM is, in many cases it seems, a more general > "default" title for electronic music that has some semblance of brain behind > it...
More to the point, it seems to be a "default" title for any electronic music that's underground (ie not Moby) but is as much meant for the home as the club. There's some very deep, complicated, intricate, 'clever' music that isn't IDM, and some truly stupid (in a good way) stuff that is. Yet another reason that it's not a particularly useful term. </standard soapbox> David ps ObMUsicalContent: mmmmmm... my HAB turned up this morning. As did my 2 Bad Mice reissue thingy. Mmmmmmmmm. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses, which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2005-11-03 14:32Andrew HimeDavid Sim wrote: > ps ObMUsicalContent: mmmmmm... my HAB turned up this morning. As did my
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David Sim wrote:
quoted 1 line ps ObMUsicalContent: mmmmmm... my HAB turned up this morning. As did my 2 Bad Mice reissue> ps ObMUsicalContent: mmmmmm... my HAB turned up this morning. As did my 2 Bad Mice reissue thingy. Mmmmmmmmm.
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2005-11-03 19:50Kent WilliamsSo, this comes up fairly often, but IDM is only accidentally a genre, and perhaps the firs
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So, this comes up fairly often, but IDM is only accidentally a genre, and perhaps the first genre label coined from the name of an internet mailing list. Which is kind of cool in a nerdy way. Of course there's the incestuous feedback effect of a lot of producers who make IDM who are (or were at one time) members of the mailing list, and a lot of music that sounds like it was made to sound like something people on the mailing list would listen to. This hasn't always been good for the music. The term made more sense in 1994 than it does now, because a lot of the stuff we lot were into had more direct links to the larger world of dance music. At this point "Intelligent Dance Music" is a misnomer, since a lot of what is called IDM is only danceable by complete spazzes, and no longer follows the stylistic conventions of any sort of dance music. Plus the 'Intelligent' is kind of insulting to music that isn't IDM, because there's plenty of House, Techno, Drum & Bass, Grime, 2-Step, and whatever that is made with just as much intelligence and care than IDM. Except that it is addressed at an audience that actually might dance. The original impulse for the IDM mailing list was extremely specific -- to discuss music exemplified by the work of the artists on the original 'Artificial Intelligence' compilations. What actually got discussed -- beyond Aphex Twin, Muziq, Orbital, The Orb, B12, etc -- was determined more by the tastes of influential list members than by any allegiance to that original intent. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2005-11-04 12:03David Sim> 2 Bad Mice? Again? You'd better believe it. Rave is the new ragga. ;-) David This messag
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quoted 1 line 2 Bad Mice? Again?> 2 Bad Mice? Again?
You'd better believe it. Rave is the new ragga. ;-) David This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses, which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org