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sample it off an old jungle 12" -j kenny ***** wrote:

quoted 23 lines Does anyone know how the pros get their Amen's so clean and tight sounding?

>Does anyone know how the pros get their Amen's so clean and tight sounding? >(not their sequence but the sound of each hit) > >The original break is very dirty and smeary, and doesn't lend itself to the >wild sampler mayhem >that you hear done with it today. > >Todays best Amen stuff is tight and clean enough to warp in extreme ways and >retain a crisp percussive punch > >Not to name drop, but you know who i am talking about > >Its not just compressors and eq's >the actual hits are more defined and have no noise floor > >I've been dieing to tear up Kontakt 2 with some Amen's, but my recording of >A-men sucks >and I'm having a tough time getting the sounds I want >If anyone knows how to do this or has an Amen recording like this, hook me >up, i'd pay for it > > >

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Don't know if you've resolved this yet, but I have some suggestions. You may hae already tried things along these lines but if not, it may help....wether your using the origina first, I suggest cleaning it up in Recycle, -----Original message----- From: kenny ***** kenny****@gmail.com Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 18:01:57 -0500 To: "idm@hyperreal.org" idm@hyperreal.org Subject: [idm] need help with Amen Break Does anyone know how the pros get their Amen's so clean and tight sounding? (not their sequence but the sound of each hit) The original break is very dirty and smeary, and doesn't lend itself to the wild sampler mayhem that you hear done with it today. Todays best Amen stuff is tight and clean enough to warp in extreme ways and retain a crisp percussive punch Not to name drop, but you know who i am talking about Its not just compressors and eq's the actual hits are more defined and have no noise floor I've been dieing to tear up Kontakt 2 with some Amen's, but my recording of A-men sucks and I'm having a tough time getting the sounds I want If anyone knows how to do this or has an Amen recording like this, hook me up, i'd pay for it --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Don't know if you've resolved this yet, but I have some suggestions that may help. You may have already tried things along these lines but if not, here ya go......wether your using the original break or not.. First try cleaning it up in Recycle Second, double the loop so you have it perfectly synched up on two separate tracks. Keep one track dry and apply some very heavy compression to the other track. Ratio around 10:1 and Threshold around -25dB. Play with the levels of each track till your hear that crisp punch. Chances are the dry track will be around 0 and the treated track will be cranked to like +6. also try running it through a sonic maximizer or exiter... ...may or may not help but its worth a try.... L8R Dorje -----Original message----- From: kenny ***** kenny****@gmail.com Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 18:01:57 -0500 To: "idm@hyperreal.org" idm@hyperreal.org Subject: [idm] need help with Amen Break Does anyone know how the pros get their Amen's so clean and tight sounding? (not their sequence but the sound of each hit) The original break is very dirty and smeary, and doesn't lend itself to the wild sampler mayhem that you hear done with it today. Todays best Amen stuff is tight and clean enough to warp in extreme ways and retain a crisp percussive punch Not to name drop, but you know who i am talking about Its not just compressors and eq's the actual hits are more defined and have no noise floor I've been dieing to tear up Kontakt 2 with some Amen's, but my recording of A-men sucks and I'm having a tough time getting the sounds I want If anyone knows how to do this or has an Amen recording like this, hook me up, i'd pay for it --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

lend your ear (& sampler) to a remastered version of "in the jungle groove" or james brown's greatest hits with the track "funky drummer". it is one of the sources of the most widely used amen break (check out "i am stretched on your grave" by sinead o'connor). from that point its all just ears, technique & gear(or software). Nth --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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quoted 33 lines a friend of mine is going to greece for awhile. can any of you

> a friend of mine is going to greece for awhile. can any of you > turn me onto > some dope spots/ nights/ artists to check out? thx, -z > > > -- > > fourthcity website v 3.0 ; so lovely ---> > http://www.fourthcity.net/ > > > quick links: > > http://www.fourthcity.net/schedule.html [ shows] > > http://www.fourthcity.net/other.html [ mp3s] > > http://www.fourthcity.net/1/ [ forum] > > also check: > > http://www.zapan.net/ [ zapan] > > http://www.laptopbattle.org/ [battle] > > http://www.postermidget.com/ [midget] > > + > + > + > + + > + > + > > > ----> much love! (tm) from the fourthcity studios <---- > > >

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quoted 5 lines From: "Nth 808" <nth808@hotmail.com>

> From: "Nth 808" <nth808@hotmail.com> > lend your ear (& sampler) to a remastered version of "in the jungle groove" > or james brown's greatest hits with the track "funky drummer". it is one of > the sources of the most widely used amen break (check out "i am stretched on > your grave" by sinead o'connor).

There is only one Amen break, the break from "Amen Brother" by The Winstons. The Funky Drummer break is called The Funky Drummer Break. And so on. "...Jungle Groove" is a good bunch of JB hits tho.

quoted 2 lines from that point its all just ears,

> from that point its all just ears, > technique & gear(or software). Nth

I believe "technique" was the subject of the poster's question. To the OP, try a noise gate, either after or without an expander. A compressor will only make it more smeary. -eric --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org