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2023-08-10 15:03kent williams New Autechre Live sets ...
└─ 2023-08-10 19:08Chris Taylor Re: New Autechre Live sets ...
├─ 2023-08-10 19:59Laurent Knauth Re: New Autechre Live sets ...
│ ├─ 2023-08-10 20:00Eileen Ford RE: New Autechre Live sets ...
│ └─ 2023-08-11 00:38Brian Behlendorf Re: New Autechre Live sets ...
│ └─ 2023-08-11 06:50Laurent Knauth Re: New Autechre Live sets ...
│ └─ 2023-08-12 15:00kent williams Re: New Autechre Live sets ...
└─ 2023-08-10 20:06Andrew Koenig RE: New Autechre Live sets ...
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2023-08-10 15:03kent williamshttps://autechre.warp.net/ae_live
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2023-08-10 19:08Chris TaylorI was relieved to see it's only seven sets. Seems manageable although I'm seeing that the
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I was relieved to see it's only seven sets. Seems manageable although I'm seeing that the last live release had seven sets too and I don't think I listened... :-/ On Thu, Aug 10, 2023 at 8:03 AM kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> wrote:
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2023-08-10 19:59Laurent KnauthI'd like some AI to spit some radio edits out of the full length versions ! On Thu, Aug 10
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I'd like some AI to spit some radio edits out of the full length versions ! On Thu, Aug 10, 2023 at 9:09 PM Chris Taylor <christaylor415@gmail.com> wrote:
quoted 10 lines I was relieved to see it's only seven sets. Seems manageable although I'm> I was relieved to see it's only seven sets. Seems manageable although I'm > seeing that the last live release had seven sets too and I don't think I > listened... :-/ > > On Thu, Aug 10, 2023 at 8:03 AM kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> https://autechre.warp.net/ae_live >> >
2023-08-10 20:00Eileen Ford<html xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com
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2023-08-11 00:38Brian BehlendorfYou mean like https://archive.org/details/AE_ONESIX ? Brian On Thu, 10 Aug 2023, Laurent K
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You mean like https://archive.org/details/AE_ONESIX ? Brian On Thu, 10 Aug 2023, Laurent Knauth wrote:
quoted 10 lines I'd like some AI to spit some radio edits out of the full length versions !> I'd like some AI to spit some radio edits out of the full length versions ! > > On Thu, Aug 10, 2023 at 9:09 PM Chris Taylor <christaylor415@gmail.com> wrote: > I was relieved to see it's only seven sets. Seems manageable although I'm seeing that the last live release had seven sets too and I don't think I listened... :-/ > > On Thu, Aug 10, 2023 at 8:03 AM kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> wrote: > https://autechre.warp.net/ae_live > > >
2023-08-11 06:50Laurent KnauthThanks for the heads up, however these versions remain a little long for the radio listene
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Thanks for the heads up, however these versions remain a little long for the radio listener... Plus the waveform displays confirm they didn't conform to the pop structure ! It may be the listener's responsibility to make his/her own radio edit eventually ! Zplane's Decoda might help (or crash !)... I admit the listening experience is pleasing though. On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 2:38 AM Brian Behlendorf <brian@hyperreal.org> wrote:
quoted 21 lines You mean like > > You mean like https://archive.org/details/AE_ONESIX ? > > Brian > > On Thu, 10 Aug 2023, Laurent Knauth wrote: > > I'd like some AI to spit some radio edits out of the full length > versions ! > > > > On Thu, Aug 10, 2023 at 9:09 PM Chris Taylor <christaylor415@gmail.com> > wrote: > > I was relieved to see it's only seven sets. Seems > manageable although I'm seeing that the last live release had seven sets > too and I don't think I listened... :-/ > > > > On Thu, Aug 10, 2023 at 8:03 AM kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> > wrote: > > https://autechre.warp.net/ae_live > > > > > >
2023-08-12 15:00kent williamsOn Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 1:51 AM Laurent Knauth <laurent.knauth@gmail.com> wrote: > Plus th
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On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 1:51 AM Laurent Knauth <laurent.knauth@gmail.com> wrote:
quoted 1 line Plus the waveform displays confirm they didn't conform to the pop structure !> Plus the waveform displays confirm they didn't conform to the pop structure !
I never examined their waveforms, yet somehow I knew that they don't conform to the pop structure! Around 36:33 in the Milan set starts a focused, almost conventional rhythmically section that would stand alone as a track. I don't know where I'd cut it off as an edit. I love the way the last half of the set sounds like a drummer on the autism spectrum sitting in a hallway that opens up to several orchestras rehearsing, jamming along with the collision of all the orchestras. It makes more sense to compare an Autechre show to other live electro-acoustic shows. What they've done is constructed a performance method that combines really detailed prior programming (editing and tuning elaborate Max/MSP patches) with live improvisations. In other words they have bespoke computer programs, which they've instrumented with knobs, dials, and switches. So their live performances explore the possibilities of the program by tweaking the 'handles' they've attached to a stunningly complex sound generator. They also have 2 patches running on two laptops and I'm betting that control signals flow back and forth between them. So as Rob is knob twiddling, his Max patch is modulating Sean's Max patch, and vice versa. Given the chaos and non-linearity built into their programming, it's better to imagine them trying to ride wild animals and keep them running in more or less the same direction. The thing that impresses me most with how they program their live sets is that they've managed to include guard rails to keep the patches from going non-linear and sending horrible full-volume harsh noise to the PA speakers. Digital signal processing is an endless battle to produce usable results without blowing up the numerical computations.
2023-08-10 20:06Andrew KoenigNo one says you have to have them all 😊 However, I’ll point out that the price for all sev
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No one says you have to have them all 😊 However, I’ll point out that the price for all seven is less than the price for three individual purchases. From: Chris Taylor <christaylor415@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2023 3:09 PM To: kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> Cc: do id <idm@hyperreal.org> Subject: Re: New Autechre Live sets ... I was relieved to see it's only seven sets. Seems manageable although I'm seeing that the last live release had seven sets too and I don't think I listened... :-/ On Thu, Aug 10, 2023 at 8:03 AM kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com <mailto:chaircrusher@gmail.com> > wrote: https://autechre.warp.net/ae_live