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2005-04-03 14:01Rob [idm] Analord MP3's
2005-04-03 14:14Martin Dust Re: [idm] Analord MP3's
├─ 2005-04-03 14:33I'm not a dj Re: [idm] Analord MP3's
├─ 2005-04-03 14:36thorsten Sideb0ard Re: [idm] Analord MP3's
└─ 2005-04-03 14:38chthonic streams Re: [idm] Analord MP3's
2005-04-03 14:38Martin Dust Re: [idm] Analord MP3's
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2005-04-03 14:40Martin Dust Re: [idm] Analord MP3's
2005-04-03 14:48Rob Re: [idm] Analord MP3's
2005-04-03 15:03Martin Dust Re: [idm] Analord MP3's
2005-04-03 15:05Martin Dust Re: [idm] Analord MP3's
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2005-04-03 19:07matt yarrington Re: [idm] Analord MP3's
2005-04-07 06:34Scarcelight Recordings Re: [idm] Analord MP3's
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2005-04-03 14:01RobHowdy- Has anyone out there taken the time to transfer the Analord tracks to MP3 yet ? I'v
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Howdy- Has anyone out there taken the time to transfer the Analord tracks to MP3 yet ? I've got 1-5 and would like to get them on MP3, but am to lazy to take the time to transfer them. I've actually purchased the 12"s and can prove it, so I'm not trying to scam tracks I haven't purchased(I run a label so I know that shit isn't cool). If someone has and be willing to share, I'd be willing to hook you up with some goods in return. Thanks! Rob/Component
2005-04-03 14:14Martin DustIf you run a label how can you even suggest this? Good in return, what someone else music
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If you run a label how can you even suggest this? Good in return, what someone else music that hasn't been paid for, how noble of you. Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob" <component@mindstorm.com> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 3:01 PM Subject: [idm] Analord MP3's Howdy- Has anyone out there taken the time to transfer the Analord tracks to MP3 yet ? I've got 1-5 and would like to get them on MP3, but am to lazy to take the time to transfer them. I've actually purchased the 12"s and can prove it, so I'm not trying to scam tracks I haven't purchased(I run a label so I know that shit isn't cool). If someone has and be willing to share, I'd be willing to hook you up with some goods in return. Thanks! Rob/Component --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2005-04-03 14:33I'm not a djeveryone should stop being so precocious and recognise that value is in the earth that we
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everyone should stop being so precocious and recognise that value is in the earth that we stand on. music is the blessing of living. if you have to give it away, then curse the consumer vice that asked you to pay for it. I have no disrespect for the artist, I just question the value of something that someone would do regardless of the cost. .turnstyle Martin Dust wrote:
quoted 3 lines If you run a label how can you even suggest this? Good in return, what> If you run a label how can you even suggest this? Good in return, what > someone else music that hasn't been paid for, how noble of you. >
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2005-04-03 14:36thorsten Sideb0ard> If you run a label how can you even suggest this? Good in return, what > someone else mu
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quoted 2 lines If you run a label how can you even suggest this? Good in return, what> If you run a label how can you even suggest this? Good in return, what > someone else music that hasn't been paid for, how noble of you.
hey, you don't need to get on your high horse. Did you actually read Robs email? Hes bought the 12"s, so hes not just blagging. Transferring vinyl to mp3 is not as simple as CDs, so hes asking if someone else has done it already, rather than duplicate the work. And as for goods in return, if he runs a label then i'm sure he can easily sort someone out with some legit new music. thor --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2005-04-03 14:38chthonic streamspersonally i think mp3s as a final destination suck, but they're more portable than vinyl.
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personally i think mp3s as a final destination suck, but they're more portable than vinyl. at least this man actually bought the vinyl. it is a pain in the ass to transfer them, i know. if the analord series ever came out on CD i'm sure i'd snap it up in a second. i know rephlex has spoken on this, but maybe they'll relent in a year or so if enough people complain. DJs and collectors who want the lovely special edition binder and records will have it, those who like CDs will buy it too, the completists will buy both, richard d. james makes a shitload of money and we're all happy.
quoted 25 lines If you run a label how can you even suggest this? Good in return,>If you run a label how can you even suggest this? Good in return, >what someone else music that hasn't been paid for, how noble of you. > >Martin > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob" <component@mindstorm.com> >To: <idm@hyperreal.org> >Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 3:01 PM >Subject: [idm] Analord MP3's > > >Howdy- > >Has anyone out there taken the time to transfer the Analord tracks >to MP3 yet ? I've got 1-5 and would like >to get them on MP3, but am to lazy to take the time to transfer >them. I've actually purchased the 12"s and >can prove it, so I'm not trying to scam tracks I haven't purchased(I >run a label so I know that shit isn't cool). >If someone has and be willing to share, I'd be willing to hook you >up with some goods in return. > >Thanks! > >Rob/Component
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2005-04-03 14:38Martin DustFine if you don't make a living from music or have money involved or an artist and if that
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Fine if you don't make a living from music or have money involved or an artist and if that's the case just mail me everything you own if your attitude is what you've written below... Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: "I'm not a dj" <turnstyle@obscure.co.nz> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 3:33 PM Subject: Re: [idm] Analord MP3's
quoted 25 lines everyone should stop being so precocious and recognise that> everyone should stop being so precocious and recognise that > value is in the earth that we stand on. > > music is the blessing of living. > > if you have to give it away, then curse the consumer vice that > asked you to pay for it. > > I have no disrespect for the artist, I just question the value > of something that someone would do regardless of the cost. > > .turnstyle > > > Martin Dust wrote: >> If you run a label how can you even suggest this? Good in return, what >> someone else music that hasn't been paid for, how noble of you. >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > >
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2005-04-03 15:00I'm not a djMartin Dust wrote: > Fine if you don't make a living from music or have money involved or
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Martin Dust wrote:
quoted 3 lines Fine if you don't make a living from music or have money involved or an> Fine if you don't make a living from music or have money involved or an > artist and if that's the case just mail me everything you own if your > attitude is what you've written below...
I have never made a living from music. I have sacrificed everything I have ever owned for music. You can have all that I own, and more. . If we are to truly resolve this issue of MP3 . and the digital paradigm. Then each person must start to redifine value. . The question is simple. I struggle with Technology ' help me. .turnstyle --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2005-04-03 14:40Martin Dust>> If you run a label how can you even suggest this? Good in return, what >> someone else
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quoted 7 lines If you run a label how can you even suggest this? Good in return, what>> If you run a label how can you even suggest this? Good in return, what >> someone else music that hasn't been paid for, how noble of you. > > hey, you don't need to get on your high horse. Did you actually read Robs > email? Hes bought the 12"s, so hes not just blagging. Transferring vinyl > to mp3 is not as simple as CDs, so hes asking if someone else has done it > already, rather than duplicate the work.
No high horse, just a load of bullshit really and a tad lazy - how hard is it to move two phono's???
quoted 3 lines And as for goods in return, if he runs a label then i'm sure he can> > And as for goods in return, if he runs a label then i'm sure he can > easily sort someone out with some legit new music.
But did it read like that?
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2005-04-03 14:48RobIf you read my message, you will see that I have already purchased the 12"s and have them.
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If you read my message, you will see that I have already purchased the 12"s and have them. I'm just looking for someone who has already ripped them to MP3. It's just a matter of convience really as I don't have a turntable in my car or on my desk @ my day job. Rob/Component ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Dust" <martin@dustclub.com> To: "Rob" <component@mindstorm.com>; <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [idm] Analord MP3's
quoted 26 lines If you run a label how can you even suggest this? Good in return, what> If you run a label how can you even suggest this? Good in return, what > someone else music that hasn't been paid for, how noble of you. > > Martin > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rob" <component@mindstorm.com> > To: <idm@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 3:01 PM > Subject: [idm] Analord MP3's > > > Howdy- > > Has anyone out there taken the time to transfer the Analord tracks to MP3 > yet ? I've got 1-5 and would like > to get them on MP3, but am to lazy to take the time to transfer them. I've > actually purchased the 12"s and > can prove it, so I'm not trying to scam tracks I haven't purchased(I run a > label so I know that shit isn't cool). > If someone has and be willing to share, I'd be willing to hook you up with > some goods in return. > > Thanks! > > Rob/Component
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2005-04-03 15:03Martin Dust> If you read my message, you will see that I have already purchased the > 12"s and have t
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quoted 2 lines If you read my message, you will see that I have already purchased the> If you read my message, you will see that I have already purchased the > 12"s and have them.
I did read your mail, what proof have you that the mp3's you'll get aren't from Soulseek etc. Now do you see my point?
quoted 1 line I'm just looking for someone who has already ripped them to MP3.>I'm just looking for someone who has already ripped them to MP3.
You lazy sod ;)
quoted 2 lines It's just a matter of convience really as I don't have a turntable in my>It's just a matter of convience really as I don't have a turntable in my >car or on my desk @ my day job.
When you get back from your desk in your car to home, just spend an hour or two doing it...easy as... Martin
quoted 40 lines Rob/Component> > > Rob/Component > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Martin Dust" <martin@dustclub.com> > To: "Rob" <component@mindstorm.com>; <idm@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 10:14 AM > Subject: Re: [idm] Analord MP3's > > >> If you run a label how can you even suggest this? Good in return, what >> someone else music that hasn't been paid for, how noble of you. >> >> Martin >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Rob" <component@mindstorm.com> >> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> >> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 3:01 PM >> Subject: [idm] Analord MP3's >> >> >> Howdy- >> >> Has anyone out there taken the time to transfer the Analord tracks to MP3 >> yet ? I've got 1-5 and would like >> to get them on MP3, but am to lazy to take the time to transfer them. >> I've actually purchased the 12"s and >> can prove it, so I'm not trying to scam tracks I haven't purchased(I run >> a label so I know that shit isn't cool). >> If someone has and be willing to share, I'd be willing to hook you up >> with some goods in return. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Rob/Component > > >
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2005-04-03 15:05Martin Dust> The question is simple. > > I struggle with Technology ' help me. Put the crack pipe dow
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quoted 3 lines The question is simple.> The question is simple. > > I struggle with Technology ' help me.
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2005-04-03 15:08I'm not a djMartin Dust wrote: >> The question is simple. >> >> I struggle with Technology ' help me.
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Martin Dust wrote:
quoted 6 lines The question is simple.>> The question is simple. >> >> I struggle with Technology ' help me. > > > Put the crack pipe down....
I'm living on the edge ' so don't provoke me if your after sustenance . seek the truth . we are crossing a line that has no return the artist is the sacrifice for understanding .turnstyle --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2005-04-03 19:07matt yarringtonyeah like f this how much loot could a lootchuck loot if a lootchuck could chuck loot ment
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2005-04-07 06:34Scarcelight Recordingssounds like a revolutionary without a revolution. reacting against the "value" given a pro
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sounds like a revolutionary without a revolution. reacting against the "value" given a product because the artist would like to make a living, assumes that there is an actual value in the product, otherwise why react to it ? (and if value is defined by the consumer, then it must have value to begin with in order for therre to be a denial of value) furthermore the cultural conditions of society (broadly speaking) have forced the perception that art is somehow cheapened when there is money involved, your stance seems to feed right into the established norm, but does it under the (no doubt well intentioned) idea of being a martyr for art, which is a total bullshit idea (although sometimes necessary step in evolution of authenticity) --- I'm not a dj <turnstyle@obscure.co.nz> wrote:
quoted 25 lines Martin Dust wrote:> > > Martin Dust wrote: > >> The question is simple. > >> > >> I struggle with Technology ' help me. > > > > > > Put the crack pipe down.... > > > I'm living on the edge ' so don't provoke me > > if your after sustenance . seek the truth > > . > > we are crossing a line that has no return > > the artist is the sacrifice for understanding > > > .turnstyle > >
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2005-04-07 07:25I'm not a djScarcelight Recordings wrote: > sounds like a revolutionary without a revolution. I impose
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quoted 1 line sounds like a revolutionary without a revolution.> sounds like a revolutionary without a revolution.
I impose an evolution of value ' The advent and onslaught of net-labels releasing music under creative commons, is a result of the control devices of copyright and record labels. I have no sympathy for the Artist in a commercial sense. We can not protect the value of music without re-establishing what this value is by destroying it. Several things are happening for me, while discovering net-labels, and creative commons. I am finding excellent music that makes me question the value of the music I pay for. In a dual process I am overwhelmed by content and desire a external filter that will condition my access to the music. . The consumer receives the value. The artist must create the value. The 'company' lose their dictation of value. . I do not suggest that this is an easy process, however it is necessary for progression. A strong symbol of this working is Vladislay Delay. On their website, they release some MP3 for free, they also promote material for sale, and they have provided a series of samples which they encourage you to steal!
quoted 4 lines this is a bit of a fallacy. just because they would do> this is a bit of a fallacy. just because they would do > it for free, it doesn't follow that they SHOULD do it > for free. this is true regardless of the value of the > "product"
Artists must remain free to control their own output. We are involved in the action of globalization. We can acknowledge the process and define its path. This is the evolution of value' How is the artist not a martyr? .turnstyle
quoted 67 lines reacting against the "value" given a product because> > reacting against the "value" given a product because > the artist would like to make a living, assumes that > there is an actual value in the product, otherwise why > react to it ? (and if value is defined by the > consumer, then it must have value to begin with in > order for therre to be a denial of value) furthermore > the cultural conditions of society (broadly speaking) > have forced the perception that art is somehow > cheapened when there is money involved, your stance > seems to feed right into the established norm, but > does it under the (no doubt well intentioned) idea of > being a martyr for art, which is a total bullshit idea > (although sometimes necessary step in evolution of > authenticity) > > > > > > > --- I'm not a dj <turnstyle@obscure.co.nz> wrote: > >> >>Martin Dust wrote: >> >>>> The question is simple. >>>> >>>> I struggle with Technology ' help me. >>> >>> >>>Put the crack pipe down.... >> >> >> I'm living on the edge ' so don't provoke me >> >> if your after sustenance . seek the truth >> >> . >> >> we are crossing a line that has no return >> >> the artist is the sacrifice for understanding >> >> >> .turnstyle >> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: >>idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>For additional commands, e-mail: >>idm-help@hyperreal.org >> >> > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. > http://personals.yahoo.com > >
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