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Hi folks, if you would had to introduce a girl to this music, where would you begin? I began with Autechre and Aphex Twin but i used to listen to another kinds of electronic music before, so i dont know where to begin with somebody that have another roots. Hope you can help me with your ideas. Thanks! -- Theorema Binario --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 08:05:03 -0500 Theorema Binario <theorema.bin@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 4 lines Hi folks,

> Hi folks, > > if you would had to introduce a girl to this music, where would you > begin?

Why? Is it Different For Girls?

quoted 3 lines I began with Autechre and Aphex Twin but i used to listen to

> I began with Autechre and Aphex Twin but i used to listen to > another kinds of electronic music before, so i dont know where to > begin with somebody that have another roots.

You mean dark ones showing through the *blonde*? ;-)

quoted 1 line Hope you can help me with your ideas.

> Hope you can help me with your ideas.

I find the implied 'genderification' of responses to 'this music' a little... um... *odd*? Perhaps the 'girls' on this list will have more to say... alan P.S. Alternative 'Helpful' Ideology-free Response to Post: Something with lots of nice cutesy bright colours like Marumari or Casino v. Japan that doesn't impinge too much on painting toenails, etc. <ahem> ---------------------- Alan Lockett, (Senior Language Co-ordinator, EFL), Language Centre, University of Bristol, 30-32 Tyndall's Park Road, Bristol BS8 1PY, UK Alan.R.Lockett@bristol.ac.uk tel: +44 (0)117 3310914 fax +44 (0)117 3310870 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Ok, in all fairness, there seems to be a slight language barrier here... My suggestion (if she likes softer stuff) is Ulrich Schnauss, Lali Puna, Jeans Team, BoC, Electric Company, Lackluster, Stars As Eyes, Four Tet, Prefuse 73, Adult., even DJ Shadow...etc...something to soften her up. In the old days Cocteau Twins did the job. But what do I know about women, I'm gay. m* On Mar 9, 2005, at 2:22 PM, Alan R. Lockett wrote:

quoted 44 lines On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 08:05:03 -0500 Theorema Binario

> On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 08:05:03 -0500 Theorema Binario > <theorema.bin@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hi folks, >> >> if you would had to introduce a girl to this music, where would you >> begin? > > Why? Is it Different For Girls? > >> I began with Autechre and Aphex Twin but i used to listen to >> another kinds of electronic music before, so i dont know where to >> begin with somebody that have another roots. > > You mean dark ones showing through the *blonde*? ;-) > >> Hope you can help me with your ideas. > > I find the implied 'genderification' of responses to 'this music' a > little... > um... *odd*? Perhaps the 'girls' on this list will have more to say... > > alan > > P.S. Alternative 'Helpful' Ideology-free Response to Post: > Something with lots of nice cutesy bright colours like Marumari or > Casino v. > Japan that doesn't impinge too much on painting toenails, etc. > > <ahem> > > ---------------------- > Alan Lockett, (Senior Language Co-ordinator, EFL), > Language Centre, University of Bristol, > 30-32 Tyndall's Park Road, Bristol BS8 1PY, UK > Alan.R.Lockett@bristol.ac.uk > tel: +44 (0)117 3310914 fax +44 (0)117 3310870 > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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Yo, dude, gay people listen to this stuff? What the hell happened? Why was I not notified? Hey, maybe you can tell me where the IDM lesbians hang out? -Adam Piontek (looking to get flamed, apparently) np: Marilyn Manson - "mOBSCENE" (ha ha ha ha ...what? it's true...) Oh, wait, iTunes just changed tracks. np: Tori Amos - "Piano Suite: Over It" ersatz-noddy wrote:

quoted 9 lines Ok, in all fairness, there seems to be a slight language barrier here...

> Ok, in all fairness, there seems to be a slight language barrier here... > My suggestion (if she likes softer stuff) is Ulrich Schnauss, Lali Puna, > Jeans Team, BoC, Electric Company, Lackluster, Stars As Eyes, Four Tet, > Prefuse 73, Adult., even DJ Shadow...etc...something to soften her up. > In the old days Cocteau Twins did the job. But what do I know about > women, I'm gay. > > m* >

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Why would a woman necessarily like any different music to a man.... I would just start with the popular ones and if that works work outwards.... aphex, BOC, []pusher - ninja-tunes - n5md - leaf label - high point low life - audiobulb - planet-mu - mille-plateaux - 12k ........... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adam Piontek" <adam@damek.org> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [idm] Ilustrating a girl : where to begin?

quoted 31 lines Yo, dude, gay people listen to this stuff? What the hell happened? Why

> Yo, dude, gay people listen to this stuff? What the hell happened? Why > was I not notified? > > Hey, maybe you can tell me where the IDM lesbians hang out? > > -Adam Piontek (looking to get flamed, apparently) > > np: Marilyn Manson - "mOBSCENE" (ha ha ha ha ...what? it's true...) > Oh, wait, iTunes just changed tracks. > np: Tori Amos - "Piano Suite: Over It" > > > ersatz-noddy wrote: >> Ok, in all fairness, there seems to be a slight language barrier here... >> My suggestion (if she likes softer stuff) is Ulrich Schnauss, Lali Puna, >> Jeans Team, BoC, Electric Company, Lackluster, Stars As Eyes, Four Tet, >> Prefuse 73, Adult., even DJ Shadow...etc...something to soften her up. In >> the old days Cocteau Twins did the job. But what do I know about women, >> I'm gay. >> >> m* >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > >

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I just put "girl" because here in Lima-Peru almost all the girls listen to the same music : merengue,pop,salsa,...Its very dificult to find here a girl thats list to something different. In the case of boys, there is another story. There are 2 big groups : the group who list to music that is popular at the moment and the group who list to punk. Its so hard to find a girl to list to non-dance music,but boys like that here are a lot (punk). Thats the reason I put "girl". Sorry for not being clear since the beaginning and thanks for the help :) -- Theorema Binario --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Well, that being the case, you might introduce chicas to music that has some connection to the music that they already know. So stuff like Senor Coconut would be an obvous choice. The Black Dog and Plaid woud seem a good starting point, because their use of percussion isn't that far away from merengue and salsa. For that matter, if you find a girl you like, that merengue and salsa can be pretty nice too, if you look for the best stuff. the guys who can dance the best with the girls gets with the best girls! On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 11:13:09 -0500, Theorema Binario <theorema.bin@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 7 lines I just put "girl" because here in Lima-Peru almost all the girls

> I just put "girl" because here in Lima-Peru almost all the girls > listen to the same music : merengue,pop,salsa,...Its very dificult to > find here a girl thats list to something different. In the case of > boys, there is another story. There are 2 big groups : the group who > list to music that is popular at the moment and the group who list to > punk. >

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My reccomendations would be novel 23 and mum off the top of my head... -- burton samograd kruhft@gmail.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

My thoughts exactly.... Also Try: - Tino Corp. - Up, Bustle, and Out (or anything off Ninja Tunes) - Theivery Corporation (or anything off 18th Street Lounge) - Mum - Mathew Herbert (around the house comes to mind) I always try to find a bastard genre of something they already like. But if she's into latin dance, any of the downtempo stuff or nu-jazz / broken beat should do the trick. - xenlab. On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 10:19:38 -0600, Kent Williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 25 lines Well, that being the case, you might introduce chicas to music that

> Well, that being the case, you might introduce chicas to music that > has some connection to the music that they already know. So stuff like > Senor Coconut would be an obvous choice. The Black Dog and Plaid woud > seem a good starting point, because their use of percussion isn't that > far away from merengue and salsa. > > For that matter, if you find a girl you like, that merengue and salsa > can be pretty nice too, if you look for the best stuff. the guys who > can dance the best with the girls gets with the best girls! > > On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 11:13:09 -0500, Theorema Binario > <theorema.bin@gmail.com> wrote: > > I just put "girl" because here in Lima-Peru almost all the girls > > listen to the same music : merengue,pop,salsa,...Its very dificult to > > find here a girl thats list to something different. In the case of > > boys, there is another story. There are 2 big groups : the group who > > list to music that is popular at the moment and the group who list to > > punk. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 12:15:02 -0500, egyptian zombie robot <egyptianzombierobot@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 13 lines My thoughts exactly.... Also Try:

> My thoughts exactly.... Also Try: > > - Tino Corp. > - Up, Bustle, and Out (or anything off Ninja Tunes) > - Theivery Corporation (or anything off 18th Street Lounge) > - Mum > - Mathew Herbert (around the house comes to mind) > > I always try to find a bastard genre of something they already like. > But if she's into latin dance, any of the downtempo stuff or nu-jazz / > broken beat should do the trick. > > - xenlab.

or Amon Tobin, now that you're mentioning the Ninja Tune clan, he has some sweet latin influences in his music as well (Chomp Samba!? whoohoo) -- "progress doesn't come from early risers progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things" http://n3wjack.blogspot.com http://www.jungletrain.net - 24/7 dnb radio station Plenty of gmail invites left, let me know if you want one. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Surely Morr Music output ? Girly girls tend to opt for more immediate melody (from my experiences) ala BoC / Marumari / Plaid blah blah .. all depends on their existing musical persuasion of course. Also I am interviewing Autechre for a local magazine here - and thought I would see if anyone on the list wanted to suggest any interesting questions? I refuse to ask them anything related to this list :) Tim. [ www.jojati.com/tkoch ] [ www.surgeryrecords.com.au ] -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.0 - Release Date: 8/03/2005 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Ask them how their music might change if they didn't smoke so much weed ;-) On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 11:22:30 +1030, tim koch <tim@tundra-music.com> wrote:

quoted 24 lines Surely Morr Music output ? Girly girls tend to opt

> > Surely Morr Music output ? Girly girls tend to opt > for more immediate melody (from my experiences) ala > BoC / Marumari / Plaid blah blah .. all depends on > their existing musical persuasion of course. > > Also I am interviewing Autechre for a local magazine here - > and thought I would see if anyone on the list wanted to > suggest any interesting questions? I refuse to ask them > anything related to this list :) > > Tim. > [ www.jojati.com/tkoch ] > [ www.surgeryrecords.com.au ] > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.0 - Release Date: 8/03/2005 > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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Why did you cancel on orlando for your US tour this year? Also, tell them that Flutter is the most perfect song ever created. - xenlab Kent Williams wrote:

quoted 42 lines Ask them how their music might change if they didn't smoke so much weed ;-)

>Ask them how their music might change if they didn't smoke so much weed ;-) > > >On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 11:22:30 +1030, tim koch <tim@tundra-music.com> wrote: > > >>Surely Morr Music output ? Girly girls tend to opt >>for more immediate melody (from my experiences) ala >>BoC / Marumari / Plaid blah blah .. all depends on >>their existing musical persuasion of course. >> >>Also I am interviewing Autechre for a local magazine here - >>and thought I would see if anyone on the list wanted to >>suggest any interesting questions? I refuse to ask them >>anything related to this list :) >> >>Tim. >>[ www.jojati.com/tkoch ] >>[ www.surgeryrecords.com.au ] >>-- >>No virus found in this outgoing message. >>Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >>Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.0 - Release Date: 8/03/2005 >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> >> >> >> > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > >

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Ah, cool to hear someone there is getting into cool music. When I was in south america, all the clubs always played the same 20 songs, over and over again. Where are you at, miraflores, Barrancas or downtown Lima? I Liked Barrancas, but not the rest of Lima. Well, I would say, Plaid would be a good place to start, as well as Aramchek on the Rotters Golf Club label has a semi-latin feel to it. Also if people down there like punk, Squarepusher is kind punk in a way, but if you are going for the ladies maybe that isn't such a good thing. People liked Tipper when I was down there, maybe that would be a good thing. It's too bad that marijuana is so poor quality and extremley illegal down there, that serves to broaden peoples musical horizons well! --- Theorema Binario <theorema.bin@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 24 lines I just put "girl" because here in Lima-Peru almost

> I just put "girl" because here in Lima-Peru almost > all the girls > listen to the same music : merengue,pop,salsa,...Its > very dificult to > find here a girl thats list to something different. > In the case of > boys, there is another story. There are 2 big groups > : the group who > list to music that is popular at the moment and the > group who list to > punk. > > Its so hard to find a girl to list to non-dance > music,but boys like > that here are a lot (punk). Thats the reason I put > "girl". > > Sorry for not being clear since the beaginning and > thanks for the help :) > > -- > Theorema Binario > >

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i think you should try bj?rk first i'm a girl, i got into this music with bj?rk, then autechre, but i think she might like arovane or plaid, maybe aphex twin, the richard d. james album. i liked it when i first heard it, and i wasn't into idm at all. --- n3wjack <n3wjack@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 38 lines On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 12:15:02 -0500, egyptian zombie

> On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 12:15:02 -0500, egyptian zombie > robot > <egyptianzombierobot@gmail.com> wrote: > > My thoughts exactly.... Also Try: > > > > - Tino Corp. > > - Up, Bustle, and Out (or anything off Ninja > Tunes) > > - Theivery Corporation (or anything off 18th > Street Lounge) > > - Mum > > - Mathew Herbert (around the house comes to mind) > > > > I always try to find a bastard genre of something > they already like. > > But if she's into latin dance, any of the > downtempo stuff or nu-jazz / > > broken beat should do the trick. > > > > - xenlab. > > or Amon Tobin, now that you're mentioning the Ninja > Tune clan, > he has some sweet latin influences in his music as > well (Chomp Samba!? whoohoo) > > -- > "progress doesn't come from early risers > progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways > to do things" > > http://n3wjack.blogspot.com > http://www.jungletrain.net - 24/7 dnb radio station > > Plenty of gmail invites left, let me know if you > want one. > >

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Apart from the music, i think i will show her some movies, specially Dancer in the Dark. I remember this film turns me deep into sounds and related stuff. Do you know any other movie like this or that could help? -- Theorema Binario --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension. :) On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 17:53:09 -0500, Theorema Binario <theorema.bin@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 13 lines Apart from the music, i think i will show her some movies, specially

> Apart from the music, i think i will show her some movies, specially > Dancer in the Dark. I remember this film turns me deep into sounds and > related stuff. Do you know any other movie like this or that could > help? > > -- > Theorema Binario > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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A Liquid Sky (...no, not really).

liquid sky is the best movie ever. EVAAARRR! don't knock it ersatz-noddy wrote:

quoted 47 lines A Liquid Sky

> A Liquid Sky > > (...no, not really). > > > > > > > > www.ersatzdesign.com > On Mar 9, 2005, at 11:57 PM, J m wrote: > > The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension. > :) > > > On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 17:53:09 -0500, Theorema Binario > <theorema.bin@gmail.com> wrote: > > Apart from the music, i think i will show her some movies, > specially > Dancer in the Dark. I remember this film turns me deep into > sounds and > related stuff. Do you know any other movie like this or that could > help? > > -- > Theorema Binario > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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yeah. i agree that it's good, but it's no introduction to electronic music. m* On Mar 10, 2005, at 12:01 AM, Jessica Yazbek wrote:

quoted 40 lines liquid sky is the best movie ever. EVAAARRR!

> liquid sky is the best movie ever. EVAAARRR! > don't knock it > > ersatz-noddy wrote: > >> A Liquid Sky >> (...no, not really). >> www.ersatzdesign.com >> On Mar 9, 2005, at 11:57 PM, J m wrote: >> The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension. >> :) >> On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 17:53:09 -0500, Theorema Binario >> <theorema.bin@gmail.com> wrote: >> Apart from the music, i think i will show her some movies, >> specially >> Dancer in the Dark. I remember this film turns me deep into >> sounds and >> related stuff. Do you know any other movie like this or that >> could >> help? >> -- Theorema Binario >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -- >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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On Mar 9, 2005, at 4:53 PM, Theorema Binario wrote:

quoted 4 lines Apart from the music, i think i will show her some movies, specially

> Apart from the music, i think i will show her some movies, specially > Dancer in the Dark. I remember this film turns me deep into sounds and > related stuff. Do you know any other movie like this or that could > help?

God I hate that movie. I love Björk, but that movie seriously sucks ass. It was one of the most boring and dull movies I've ever had the displeasure to sit through. -- Mr. Tangent [the binary police] www.mrtangent.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Girls are all different, just like boys! :) There are girls who listen to grindcore, girls who listen to gabba, girls who love dark industrial, and girls who like the sound of tearing wings off insects, not every girl is made of sugar and spice and everything nice. :) So I would suggest just letting her hear stuff you are enthusiastic about and like listening to yourself. She may share your enthusiasm, she may hate it, but at least it would be genuine. Introduce her to the whole spectrum- there is so much out there to choose from and let her choose for herself what she likes. There is no formula for girls that anyone here can recommend for you- girls are individuals too! :) Cheers, Julia --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org