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I dislike a genre tag when it's too specific/niche AND/OR when it's too broad and means too many different things to different people. And some I just don't like because they sound stupid. 1. Trip-hop 2. Electronica 3. Electroclash 4. IDM 5. Dubstep JG --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

John Goelzer wrote:

quoted 5 lines I dislike a genre tag when it's too specific/niche AND/OR when it's too broad an

>I dislike a genre tag when it's too specific/niche AND/OR when it's too broad and means too many different things to different people. And some I just don't like because they sound stupid. > >1. Trip-hop >2. Electronica >

If people ask, I prefer to say I do experimental electronic music. If they try to tag me with "electronica", I say I hate that term because it is only an additional "ca" from "electroni-caca" (caca being slang for sh_t). andrew -- Andrew Duke scoring/sound design/source http://andrew-duke.com Cognition Audioworks label [Andrew Duke, Foal, Clinker, Granny'Ark] http://cognitionaudioworks.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.6 - Release Date: 2/7/2005 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

My favorite has been one Chris Miller once told me. "Music that sounds like stoves talking to refrigerators." Did he get that from you, Pietrobot? Beautiful. -matT nashville.tn On Feb 9, 2005, at 11:54 AM, Andrew Duke Cognition Audioworks wrote:

quoted 37 lines John Goelzer wrote:

> John Goelzer wrote: > >> I dislike a genre tag when it's too specific/niche AND/OR when it's >> too broad and means too many different things to different people. >> And some I just don't like because they sound stupid. >> >> 1. Trip-hop >> 2. Electronica >> > If people ask, I prefer to say I do experimental electronic music. > If they try to tag me with "electronica", I say I hate that term > because > it is only an additional "ca" from "electroni-caca" (caca being slang > for > sh_t). andrew > > -- > Andrew Duke > scoring/sound design/source > http://andrew-duke.com > Cognition Audioworks label > [Andrew Duke, Foal, Clinker, Granny'Ark] > http://cognitionaudioworks.com > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.6 - Release Date: 2/7/2005 > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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I consider electronica as short-hand for electronic music. I like that it's very broad, because it keeps people wondering what I'm talking about, so the discussion goes somewhere. Those who don't wonder, well, I'd probably rather not have a music conversation with them anyway. Me, I just dislike when someone sends to a mailing list an email that's marked with a request for a read-receipt. But that's just me. :P -adam John Goelzer wrote:

quoted 14 lines I dislike a genre tag when it's too specific/niche AND/OR when it's too broad an

> I dislike a genre tag when it's too specific/niche AND/OR when it's too broad and means too many different things to different people. And some I just don't like because they sound stupid. > > 1. Trip-hop > 2. Electronica > 3. Electroclash > 4. IDM > 5. Dubstep > > JG > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 12:58:13 -0500, Adam Piontek <adam@damek.org> wrote:

quoted 4 lines I consider electronica as short-hand for electronic music. I like that

> I consider electronica as short-hand for electronic music. I like that > it's very broad, because it keeps people wondering what I'm talking > about, so the discussion goes somewhere. Those who don't wonder, well, > I'd probably rather not have a music conversation with them anyway.

same here, people not into electronic music will understand a sentence like "I listen to electronica mainly", instead of "I listen to breakcore" besides, there are way too many subgenres around in most styles anyway, so much that you get these idiot discussions where people argue if a certain track is either techstep or technoid, or maybe neurofunk, or...

quoted 15 lines Me, I just dislike when someone sends to a mailing list an email that's

> Me, I just dislike when someone sends to a mailing list an email that's > marked with a request for a read-receipt. But that's just me. > :P > -adam > > John Goelzer wrote: > > I dislike a genre tag when it's too specific/niche AND/OR when it's too broad and means too many different things to different people. And some I just don't like because they sound stupid. > > > > 1. Trip-hop > > 2. Electronica > > 3. Electroclash > > 4. IDM > > 5. Dubstep > > > > JG

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On Feb 9, 2005, at 11:39 AM, John Goelzer wrote:

quoted 1 line 5. Dubstep

> 5. Dubstep

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i wish that shit would just get to steppin, i'm so fucking tired of dub. John/Slackonomics <slack@slackonomics.com> wrote:On Feb 9, 2005, at 11:39 AM, John Goelzer wrote:

quoted 1 line 5. Dubstep

> 5. Dubstep

I prefer NeXTStep or OpenStep/GnuStep, personally. -- Mr. Tangent [the binary police] www.mrtangent.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less.

FuckStep is still my favourite. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.6 - Release Date: 07/02/2005 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Thanks... you gave me a great laugh here... I needed that. (Whew... wiping away the tears) -matT nashville.tn On Feb 10, 2005, at 8:52 AM, beatsploitation wrote:

quoted 2 lines FuckStep is still my favourite.

> > FuckStep is still my favourite.

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On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 14:52:04 -0000, beatsploitation <anatomist@beatsploitation.com> wrote:

quoted 2 lines FuckStep is still my favourite.

> > FuckStep is still my favourite.

or Clownstep http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clownstep http://www.cafepress.com/clownstep/400287 :D -- "progress doesn't come from early risers progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things" http://n3wjack.blogspot.com http://www.jungletrain.net - 24/7 dnb radio station Plenty of gmail invites left, let me know if you want one. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Oh, man, I would TOTALLY listed to some clownstep. How about Joywave? Or Nu-lounge? -----Original Message----- From: n3wjack [mailto:n3wjack@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 5:10 AM To: idm@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [idm] Top 5 least-favorite genre tags. (was: endless "IDM" genre term discussion (was re: DEVO)) On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 14:52:04 -0000, beatsploitation <anatomist@beatsploitation.com> wrote:

quoted 2 lines FuckStep is still my favourite.

> > FuckStep is still my favourite.

or Clownstep http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clownstep http://www.cafepress.com/clownstep/400287 :D -- "progress doesn't come from early risers progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things" http://n3wjack.blogspot.com http://www.jungletrain.net - 24/7 dnb radio station Plenty of gmail invites left, let me know if you want one. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoth Ian Monroe:

quoted 2 lines How about Joywave?

> How about Joywave? > Or Nu-lounge?

Polkore? -- shawn allen mailto://shawn@alterior.net phone://+1.415.577.3961 http://alterior.net aim://shawnpallen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Hahaha. Awesome. That made me think of Zydecore. We ought to make a compilation of songs that are prime representations of genres that have never existed. I bet it would get some press. -Ian -----Original Message----- From: shawn allen [mailto:shawn@alterior.net] Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 2:40 PM To: idm@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [idm] Top 5 least-favorite genre tags. (was: endless "IDM" genre term discussion (was re: DEVO)) quoth Ian Monroe:

quoted 2 lines How about Joywave?

> How about Joywave? > Or Nu-lounge?

Polkore? -- shawn allen mailto://shawn@alterior.net phone://+1.415.577.3961 http://alterior.net aim://shawnpallen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoth Ian Monroe:

quoted 2 lines We ought to make a compilation of songs that are prime representations

> We ought to make a compilation of songs that are prime representations > of genres that have never existed. I bet it would get some press.

I really did consider doing this with Polkore at one point. Imagine... an album proclaiming itself to be a collection of seminal Polkore tracks by the originators of the style: 13-year olds in Wisconsin sampling their grandparents' polka records and laying them over hardcore percussion loops. It could also just work as a design concept :) Toodles, -- shawn allen mailto://shawn@alterior.net phone://+1.415.577.3961 http://alterior.net aim://shawnpallen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

How about albacore? On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 13:39:02 -0800, shawn allen <shawn@alterior.net> wrote:

quoted 20 lines quoth Ian Monroe:

> quoth Ian Monroe: > > We ought to make a compilation of songs that are prime representations > > of genres that have never existed. I bet it would get some press. > > I really did consider doing this with Polkore at one point. Imagine... > an album proclaiming itself to be a collection of seminal Polkore tracks > by the originators of the style: 13-year olds in Wisconsin sampling > their grandparents' polka records and laying them over hardcore > percussion loops. > > It could also just work as a design concept :) > > Toodles, > -- > shawn allen > mailto://shawn@alterior.net > phone://+1.415.577.3961 > http://alterior.net > aim://shawnpallen >

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On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 18:16:39 -0500, rickreaction <rickreaction@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 3 lines How about albacore?

> How about albacore? > >

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On Fri, 11 Feb 2005, shawn allen wrote:

quoted 11 lines quoth Ian Monroe:

> quoth Ian Monroe: > > We ought to make a compilation of songs that are prime representations > > of genres that have never existed. I bet it would get some press. > > I really did consider doing this with Polkore at one point. Imagine... > an album proclaiming itself to be a collection of seminal Polkore tracks > by the originators of the style: 13-year olds in Wisconsin sampling > their grandparents' polka records and laying them over hardcore > percussion loops. > > It could also just work as a design concept :)

Google for "extreme polka". I just love the names "Polkacide" and "Polkaholics". -- patrik_wallstrom->foodfight->pawal@blipp.com->+46-733173956 `-> http://www.gnuheter.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:54:16 -0500, Ian Monroe <imonroe@orlandoweekly.com> wrote:

quoted 6 lines Hahaha. Awesome.

> Hahaha. Awesome. > > That made me think of Zydecore. > > We ought to make a compilation of songs that are prime representations > of genres that have never existed. I bet it would get some press.

while BSing about music me and my bro intended to invent a complete new genre at one point, where the music entirely consisted of sine-waves, we decided to call it SineCore!! :) -- "progress doesn't come from early risers progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things" http://n3wjack.blogspot.com http://www.jungletrain.net - 24/7 dnb radio station Plenty of gmail invites left, let me know if you want one. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 11:50:51AM +0100, n3wjack wrote:

quoted 14 lines On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:54:16 -0500, Ian Monroe

> On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:54:16 -0500, Ian Monroe > <imonroe@orlandoweekly.com> wrote: > > Hahaha. Awesome. > > > > That made me think of Zydecore. > > > > We ought to make a compilation of songs that are prime representations > > of genres that have never existed. I bet it would get some press. > > while BSing about music me and my bro intended to invent a complete > new genre at one point, where the music entirely consisted of > sine-waves, > > we decided to call it SineCore!! :)

CoreCore: music composed using only executables lying around your hard disk as samples. (Someone must have done that at some point.) - A -- Earth Sciences, University of Cambridge http://www.esc.cam.ac.uk/ Programme Controller, CUR1350 http://www.cur1350.co.uk/ email: andrew@lexical.org.uk Random Walk ::: Monday, 11pm ::: cur1350.co.uk ::: is this music? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Well I remember a competition on the smartelectronix website, where eveyone was invitet to make a track using the .dll - files of the smartelectronic vst plugins. But the results didnt sound like what i would imagine under the name of corecore. Sok Andrew Walkingshaw schrieb:

quoted 29 lines On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 11:50:51AM +0100, n3wjack wrote:

>On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 11:50:51AM +0100, n3wjack wrote: > > >>On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:54:16 -0500, Ian Monroe >><imonroe@orlandoweekly.com> wrote: >> >> >>>Hahaha. Awesome. >>> >>>That made me think of Zydecore. >>> >>>We ought to make a compilation of songs that are prime representations >>>of genres that have never existed. I bet it would get some press. >>> >>> >>while BSing about music me and my bro intended to invent a complete >>new genre at one point, where the music entirely consisted of >>sine-waves, >> >>we decided to call it SineCore!! :) >> >> > >CoreCore: music composed using only executables lying around your hard >disk as samples. (Someone must have done that at some point.) > >- A > >

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There's an album on Tigetbeat that did consist of tracks made entirely of loading binary files (exe's, jpg's, etc.'s) ... it's called 'Wrong Application'... here's a link: http://www.tigerbeat6.com/index.php?id=3_70 Andrew Walkingshaw wrote:

quoted 29 lines On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 11:50:51AM +0100, n3wjack wrote:

>On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 11:50:51AM +0100, n3wjack wrote: > > >>On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:54:16 -0500, Ian Monroe >><imonroe@orlandoweekly.com> wrote: >> >> >>>Hahaha. Awesome. >>> >>>That made me think of Zydecore. >>> >>>We ought to make a compilation of songs that are prime representations >>>of genres that have never existed. I bet it would get some press. >>> >>> >>while BSing about music me and my bro intended to invent a complete >>new genre at one point, where the music entirely consisted of >>sine-waves, >> >>we decided to call it SineCore!! :) >> >> > >CoreCore: music composed using only executables lying around your hard >disk as samples. (Someone must have done that at some point.) > >- A > >

I really prefer <a href="http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/ShowMainServlet/showid-354/ Step_by_Step/">Step By Step</a> myself! ------------------------------------- audio @ http://www.myspace.com/myo On Feb 10, 2005, at 9:39 AM, ed c wrote:

quoted 20 lines 5. Dub-step

>> 5. Dub-step > > I prefer NeXTStep or OpenStep/GnuStep, personally. > > -- > > Mr. Tangent [the binary police] > www.mrtangent.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less.

Electronic music is just like a music family, like Rock can be. Inside that family, i called IDM to this style of music you cant dance with and when you heard it you think about hi-tech,the future and a nerd or computer geek going crazy with his laptop -- Theorema Binario --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 2 lines If people ask, I prefer to say I

> If people ask, I prefer to say I > do experimental electronic music.

When people ask me what I play or what I like, I say "flashjam." No, it doesn't mean anything. That's the point. JG --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 4 lines Me, I just dislike when someone sends

> Me, I just dislike when someone sends > to a mailing list an email that's > marked with a request for a read-receipt. > But that's just me.

I wasn't aware those were actually carried/used/processed outside our internal network! My bad, I guess. How is it a bother on your end? JG --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Just my email client popping up a dialog asking if I want to send the receipt or not. Minor bother, nothing more. Thought you might not know, though, and thought it was kinda funny :D -adam John Goelzer wrote:

quoted 14 lines Me, I just dislike when someone sends

>>Me, I just dislike when someone sends >>to a mailing list an email that's >>marked with a request for a read-receipt. >>But that's just me. > > > I wasn't aware those were actually carried/used/processed outside our internal network! My bad, I guess. How is it a bother on your end? > > JG > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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In a message dated 2/11/05 11:16:19 AM, imonroe@orlandoweekly.com writes:

quoted 6 lines Oh, man, I would TOTALLY listed to some clownstep. 

> Oh, man, I would TOTALLY listed to some clownstep.  > > How about Joywave? > > Or Nu-lounge? >

How about "hand bag house" or "cigar bar house".. ?? That's the kinda music I like mediadrome international audiochrome, inc.

While String Theory was still a working project, I coined the genre name "digital softcore" for us...a tag certainly tongue in cheek, but not without some validity. Nate, Thorny Tigers On Feb 11, 2005, at 1:00 PM, Mediadrome@aol.com wrote:

quoted 21 lines In a message dated 2/11/05 11:16:19 AM, imonroe@orlandoweekly.com

> > In a message dated 2/11/05 11:16:19 AM, imonroe@orlandoweekly.com > writes: > > >> Oh, man, I would TOTALLY listed to some clownstep.  >> >> How about Joywave? >> >> Or Nu-lounge? >> > > How about "hand bag house" > or "cigar bar house".. ?? > > That's the kinda music I like > > > mediadrome > international audiochrome, inc. >

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