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2014-11-10 22:16Zombieflysince when did electronic music artists become "producers"? every media outlet now refers

From:: Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com>
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Date:: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 22:16:44 +0000
Subject:: "the producer"

since when did electronic music artists become "producers"? every media outlet now refers to artists as this... why? it's doing my head in... I think i need some sleep :/ -- _____________________________________________ Sent from my Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48K _____________________________________________ noise I make: http://www.soundcloud.com/pushkin http://www.last.fm/music/Pushkin noise I like: http://www.last.fm/user/zombiefly sites I run: http://www.ctran.co.uk http://o-fu-online.net -------------------------------

2014-11-10 22:20Esa Ruohoit's not that important. bedroom musicians -> bedroom producers On 11 November 2014 00:16,

From:: Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com>
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Date:: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 00:20:23 +0200
Subject:: Re: "the producer"
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it's not that important. bedroom musicians -> bedroom producers On 11 November 2014 00:16, Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 20 lines since when did electronic music artists become "producers"? every media

> since when did electronic music artists become "producers"? every media > outlet now refers to artists as this... why? it's doing my head in... I > think i need some sleep :/ > > -- > _____________________________________________ > Sent from my Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48K > _____________________________________________ > noise I make: > http://www.soundcloud.com/pushkin > http://www.last.fm/music/Pushkin > > noise I like: > http://www.last.fm/user/zombiefly > > sites I run: > http://www.ctran.co.uk > http://o-fu-online.net > ------------------------------- >

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2014-11-10 22:32Zombieflyit extends further than that, Chris Clark and Aphex Twin are now producers too. a producer

From:: Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com>
To:: Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com>
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Date:: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 22:32:23 +0000
Subject:: Re: "the producer"
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it extends further than that, Chris Clark and Aphex Twin are now producers too. a producer produces other peoples work, like Quincy Jones.... it's all wrong, i tells ya! On 10 November 2014 22:20, Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 35 lines it's not that important.

> it's not that important. > bedroom musicians -> bedroom producers > > > On 11 November 2014 00:16, Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com> wrote: > >> since when did electronic music artists become "producers"? every media >> outlet now refers to artists as this... why? it's doing my head in... I >> think i need some sleep :/ >> >> -- >> _____________________________________________ >> Sent from my Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48K >> _____________________________________________ >> noise I make: >> http://www.soundcloud.com/pushkin >> http://www.last.fm/music/Pushkin >> >> noise I like: >> http://www.last.fm/user/zombiefly >> >> sites I run: >> http://www.ctran.co.uk >> http://o-fu-online.net >> ------------------------------- >> > > > > -- > > --- > http://twitter.com/esaruoho > http://lackluster.bandcamp.com >

-- _____________________________________________ Sent from my Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48K _____________________________________________ noise I make: http://www.soundcloud.com/pushkin http://www.last.fm/music/Pushkin noise I like: http://www.last.fm/user/zombiefly sites I run: http://www.ctran.co.uk http://o-fu-online.net -------------------------------

2014-11-10 22:40Connor HigginsHey, if there ain't a guitar involved, then they're just not musicians. On Mon, Nov 10, 20

From:: Connor Higgins <connor1higgins@gmail.com>
To:: Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com>
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Date:: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 17:40:21 -0500
Subject:: Re: "the producer"
Reply to:: Re: "the producer"

Hey, if there ain't a guitar involved, then they're just not musicians. On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 60 lines it extends further than that, Chris Clark and Aphex Twin are now producers

> it extends further than that, Chris Clark and Aphex Twin are now producers > too. a producer produces other peoples work, like Quincy Jones.... it's all > wrong, i tells ya! > > On 10 November 2014 22:20, Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com> wrote: > >> it's not that important. >> bedroom musicians -> bedroom producers >> >> >> On 11 November 2014 00:16, Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> since when did electronic music artists become "producers"? every media >>> outlet now refers to artists as this... why? it's doing my head in... I >>> think i need some sleep :/ >>> >>> -- >>> _____________________________________________ >>> Sent from my Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48K >>> _____________________________________________ >>> noise I make: >>> http://www.soundcloud.com/pushkin >>> http://www.last.fm/music/Pushkin >>> >>> noise I like: >>> http://www.last.fm/user/zombiefly >>> >>> sites I run: >>> http://www.ctran.co.uk >>> http://o-fu-online.net >>> ------------------------------- >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> --- >> http://twitter.com/esaruoho >> http://lackluster.bandcamp.com >> > > > > -- > _____________________________________________ > Sent from my Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48K > _____________________________________________ > noise I make: > http://www.soundcloud.com/pushkin > http://www.last.fm/music/Pushkin > > noise I like: > http://www.last.fm/user/zombiefly > > sites I run: > http://www.ctran.co.uk > http://o-fu-online.net > ------------------------------- >

2014-11-10 22:57Clint Andersonwhat about hellfish and producer? Clint Anderson Systems Engineer On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at

From:: Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com>
To:: Connor Higgins <connor1higgins@gmail.com>
Cc:: Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com>, Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com>, idm list <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 16:57:35 -0600
Subject:: Re: "the producer"
Reply to:: Re: "the producer"

what about hellfish and producer? Clint Anderson Systems Engineer On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Connor Higgins <connor1higgins@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 66 lines Hey, if there ain't a guitar involved, then they're just not musicians.

> Hey, if there ain't a guitar involved, then they're just not musicians. > > On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com> wrote: > >> it extends further than that, Chris Clark and Aphex Twin are now >> producers too. a producer produces other peoples work, like Quincy >> Jones.... it's all wrong, i tells ya! >> >> On 10 November 2014 22:20, Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> it's not that important. >>> bedroom musicians -> bedroom producers >>> >>> >>> On 11 November 2014 00:16, Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> since when did electronic music artists become "producers"? every media >>>> outlet now refers to artists as this... why? it's doing my head in... I >>>> think i need some sleep :/ >>>> >>>> -- >>>> _____________________________________________ >>>> Sent from my Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48K >>>> _____________________________________________ >>>> noise I make: >>>> http://www.soundcloud.com/pushkin >>>> http://www.last.fm/music/Pushkin >>>> >>>> noise I like: >>>> http://www.last.fm/user/zombiefly >>>> >>>> sites I run: >>>> http://www.ctran.co.uk >>>> http://o-fu-online.net >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> --- >>> http://twitter.com/esaruoho >>> http://lackluster.bandcamp.com >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> _____________________________________________ >> Sent from my Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48K >> _____________________________________________ >> noise I make: >> http://www.soundcloud.com/pushkin >> http://www.last.fm/music/Pushkin >> >> noise I like: >> http://www.last.fm/user/zombiefly >> >> sites I run: >> http://www.ctran.co.uk >> http://o-fu-online.net >> ------------------------------- >> > >

2014-11-10 23:00ZombieflyWhat if there are 2 producers in a band? Can they be a band if they don't have guitars, fl

From:: Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com>
To:: Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com>, Connor Higgins <connor1higgins@gmail.com>
Cc:: Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com>, idm list <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 23:00:12 +0000
Subject:: Re: "the producer"

What if there are 2 producers in a band? Can they be a band if they don't have guitars, flutes and tambourines? On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 22:57 Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 76 lines what about hellfish and producer?

> what about hellfish and producer? > > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > > On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Connor Higgins <connor1higgins@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hey, if there ain't a guitar involved, then they're just not musicians. >> >> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> it extends further than that, Chris Clark and Aphex Twin are now >>> producers too. a producer produces other peoples work, like Quincy >>> Jones.... it's all wrong, i tells ya! >>> >>> On 10 November 2014 22:20, Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> it's not that important. >>>> bedroom musicians -> bedroom producers >>>> >>>> >>>> On 11 November 2014 00:16, Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> since when did electronic music artists become "producers"? every >>>>> media outlet now refers to artists as this... why? it's doing my head in... >>>>> I think i need some sleep :/ >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> _____________________________________________ >>>>> Sent from my Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48K >>>>> _____________________________________________ >>>>> noise I make: >>>>> http://www.soundcloud.com/pushkin >>>>> http://www.last.fm/music/Pushkin >>>>> >>>>> noise I like: >>>>> http://www.last.fm/user/zombiefly >>>>> >>>>> sites I run: >>>>> http://www.ctran.co.uk >>>>> http://o-fu-online.net >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> --- >>>> http://twitter.com/esaruoho >>>> http://lackluster.bandcamp.com >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> _____________________________________________ >>> Sent from my Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48K >>> _____________________________________________ >>> noise I make: >>> http://www.soundcloud.com/pushkin >>> http://www.last.fm/music/Pushkin >>> >>> noise I like: >>> http://www.last.fm/user/zombiefly >>> >>> sites I run: >>> http://www.ctran.co.uk >>> http://o-fu-online.net >>> ------------------------------- >>> >> >> >

2014-11-11 00:13Pete KimWell it makes sense no? "Composer" is usually reserved for people who write down notes on

From:: Pete Kim <hyun_sik_kim@brown.edu>
To:: Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com>
Cc:: Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com>, Connor Higgins <connor1higgins@gmail.com>, Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com>, idm list <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 19:13:35 -0500
Subject:: Re: "the producer"
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Well it makes sense no? "Composer" is usually reserved for people who write down notes on papers, "musician" is used to address people as instrument-players. An electronic music artist might also be a composer and/or musician, hence the need for a separate word, and production is something that sets the process of creating electronic music apart from classical composition and general musicianship. So when you want to talk about someone as a person who creates electronic music, you call him a producer. I for one welcome this term. On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 6:00 PM, Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 81 lines What if there are 2 producers in a band? Can they be a band if they don't

> What if there are 2 producers in a band? Can they be a band if they don't > have guitars, flutes and tambourines? > > On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 22:57 Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: > >> what about hellfish and producer? >> >> >> Clint Anderson >> Systems Engineer >> >> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Connor Higgins <connor1higgins@gmail.com >> > wrote: >> >>> Hey, if there ain't a guitar involved, then they're just not musicians. >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> it extends further than that, Chris Clark and Aphex Twin are now >>>> producers too. a producer produces other peoples work, like Quincy >>>> Jones.... it's all wrong, i tells ya! >>>> >>>> On 10 November 2014 22:20, Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> it's not that important. >>>>> bedroom musicians -> bedroom producers >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 11 November 2014 00:16, Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> since when did electronic music artists become "producers"? every >>>>>> media outlet now refers to artists as this... why? it's doing my head in... >>>>>> I think i need some sleep :/ >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> _____________________________________________ >>>>>> Sent from my Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48K >>>>>> _____________________________________________ >>>>>> noise I make: >>>>>> http://www.soundcloud.com/pushkin >>>>>> http://www.last.fm/music/Pushkin >>>>>> >>>>>> noise I like: >>>>>> http://www.last.fm/user/zombiefly >>>>>> >>>>>> sites I run: >>>>>> http://www.ctran.co.uk >>>>>> http://o-fu-online.net >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> http://twitter.com/esaruoho >>>>> http://lackluster.bandcamp.com >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> _____________________________________________ >>>> Sent from my Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48K >>>> _____________________________________________ >>>> noise I make: >>>> http://www.soundcloud.com/pushkin >>>> http://www.last.fm/music/Pushkin >>>> >>>> noise I like: >>>> http://www.last.fm/user/zombiefly >>>> >>>> sites I run: >>>> http://www.ctran.co.uk >>>> http://o-fu-online.net >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> >>> >>> >>

2014-11-11 02:47Clint Andersonsonic vandal Clint Anderson Systems Engineer On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Pete Kim <hy

From:: Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com>
To:: Pete Kim <hyun_sik_kim@brown.edu>
Cc:: Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com>, Connor Higgins <connor1higgins@gmail.com>, Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com>, idm list <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 20:47:14 -0600
Subject:: Re: "the producer"
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sonic vandal Clint Anderson Systems Engineer On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Pete Kim <hyun_sik_kim@brown.edu> wrote:

quoted 95 lines Well it makes sense no? "Composer" is usually reserved for people who

> Well it makes sense no? "Composer" is usually reserved for people who > write down notes on papers, "musician" is used to address people as > instrument-players. > An electronic music artist might also be a composer and/or musician, hence > the need for a separate word, and production is something that sets the > process of creating electronic music apart from classical composition and > general musicianship. So when you want to talk about someone as a person > who creates electronic music, you call him a producer. > > I for one welcome this term. > > On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 6:00 PM, Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com> wrote: > >> What if there are 2 producers in a band? Can they be a band if they don't >> have guitars, flutes and tambourines? >> >> On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 22:57 Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> what about hellfish and producer? >>> >>> >>> Clint Anderson >>> Systems Engineer >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Connor Higgins < >>> connor1higgins@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hey, if there ain't a guitar involved, then they're just not musicians. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> it extends further than that, Chris Clark and Aphex Twin are now >>>>> producers too. a producer produces other peoples work, like Quincy >>>>> Jones.... it's all wrong, i tells ya! >>>>> >>>>> On 10 November 2014 22:20, Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> it's not that important. >>>>>> bedroom musicians -> bedroom producers >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 11 November 2014 00:16, Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> since when did electronic music artists become "producers"? every >>>>>>> media outlet now refers to artists as this... why? it's doing my head in... >>>>>>> I think i need some sleep :/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> _____________________________________________ >>>>>>> Sent from my Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48K >>>>>>> _____________________________________________ >>>>>>> noise I make: >>>>>>> http://www.soundcloud.com/pushkin >>>>>>> http://www.last.fm/music/Pushkin >>>>>>> >>>>>>> noise I like: >>>>>>> http://www.last.fm/user/zombiefly >>>>>>> >>>>>>> sites I run: >>>>>>> http://www.ctran.co.uk >>>>>>> http://o-fu-online.net >>>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> http://twitter.com/esaruoho >>>>>> http://lackluster.bandcamp.com >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> _____________________________________________ >>>>> Sent from my Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48K >>>>> _____________________________________________ >>>>> noise I make: >>>>> http://www.soundcloud.com/pushkin >>>>> http://www.last.fm/music/Pushkin >>>>> >>>>> noise I like: >>>>> http://www.last.fm/user/zombiefly >>>>> >>>>> sites I run: >>>>> http://www.ctran.co.uk >>>>> http://o-fu-online.net >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >

2014-11-12 13:53Juho Hietalawell, there’s a mel brooks that goes with it: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063462/ <http:/

From:: Juho Hietala <hietala@gmail.com>
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Date:: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 14:53:02 +0100
Subject:: Re: "the producer"
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well, there’s a mel brooks that goes with it: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063462/ <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063462/>

quoted 67 lines On 11 Nov 2014, at 00:00, Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 11 Nov 2014, at 00:00, Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com> wrote: > > What if there are 2 producers in a band? Can they be a band if they don't have guitars, flutes and tambourines? > > On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 22:57 Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com <mailto:clinta@gmail.com>> wrote: > what about hellfish and producer? > > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > > On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Connor Higgins <connor1higgins@gmail.com <mailto:connor1higgins@gmail.com>> wrote: > Hey, if there ain't a guitar involved, then they're just not musicians. > > On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com <mailto:zombiefly@gmail.com>> wrote: > it extends further than that, Chris Clark and Aphex Twin are now producers too. a producer produces other peoples work, like Quincy Jones.... it's all wrong, i tells ya! > > On 10 November 2014 22:20, Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com <mailto:esaruoho@gmail.com>> wrote: > it's not that important. > bedroom musicians -> bedroom producers > > > On 11 November 2014 00:16, Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com <mailto:zombiefly@gmail.com>> wrote: > since when did electronic music artists become "producers"? every media outlet now refers to artists as this... why? it's doing my head in... I think i need some sleep :/ > > -- > _____________________________________________ > Sent from my Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48K > _____________________________________________ > noise I make: > http://www.soundcloud.com/pushkin <http://www.soundcloud.com/pushkin> > http://www.last.fm/music/Pushkin <http://www.last.fm/music/Pushkin> > > noise I like: > http://www.last.fm/user/zombiefly <http://www.last.fm/user/zombiefly> > > sites I run: > http://www.ctran.co.uk <http://www.ctran.co.uk/> > http://o-fu-online.net <http://o-fu-online.net/> > ------------------------------- > > > > -- > > --- > http://twitter.com/esaruoho <http://twitter.com/esaruoho> > http://lackluster.bandcamp.com <http://lackluster.bandcamp.com/> > > > -- > _____________________________________________ > Sent from my Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48K > _____________________________________________ > noise I make: > http://www.soundcloud.com/pushkin <http://www.soundcloud.com/pushkin> > http://www.last.fm/music/Pushkin <http://www.last.fm/music/Pushkin> > > noise I like: > http://www.last.fm/user/zombiefly <http://www.last.fm/user/zombiefly> > > sites I run: > http://www.ctran.co.uk <http://www.ctran.co.uk/> > http://o-fu-online.net <http://o-fu-online.net/> > ------------------------------- > >

2014-11-13 11:26jay sanDirector? On 12 November 2014 13:53, Juho Hietala <hietala@gmail.com> wrote: > well, there

From:: jay san <jaynotmusic@googlemail.com>
To:: Juho Hietala <hietala@gmail.com>
Cc:: IDM List <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 11:26:15 +0000
Subject:: Re: "the producer"
Reply to:: Re: "the producer"

Director? On 12 November 2014 13:53, Juho Hietala <hietala@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 88 lines well, there’s a mel brooks that goes with it:

> well, there’s a mel brooks that goes with it: > http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063462/ > > > On 11 Nov 2014, at 00:00, Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com> wrote: > > What if there are 2 producers in a band? Can they be a band if they don't > have guitars, flutes and tambourines? > > On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 22:57 Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: > >> what about hellfish and producer? >> >> >> Clint Anderson >> Systems Engineer >> >> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Connor Higgins <connor1higgins@gmail.com >> > wrote: >> >>> Hey, if there ain't a guitar involved, then they're just not musicians. >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> it extends further than that, Chris Clark and Aphex Twin are now >>>> producers too. a producer produces other peoples work, like Quincy >>>> Jones.... it's all wrong, i tells ya! >>>> >>>> On 10 November 2014 22:20, Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> it's not that important. >>>>> bedroom musicians -> bedroom producers >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 11 November 2014 00:16, Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> since when did electronic music artists become "producers"? every >>>>>> media outlet now refers to artists as this... why? it's doing my head in... >>>>>> I think i need some sleep :/ >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> _____________________________________________ >>>>>> Sent from my Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48K >>>>>> _____________________________________________ >>>>>> noise I make: >>>>>> http://www.soundcloud.com/pushkin >>>>>> http://www.last.fm/music/Pushkin >>>>>> >>>>>> noise I like: >>>>>> http://www.last.fm/user/zombiefly >>>>>> >>>>>> sites I run: >>>>>> http://www.ctran.co.uk >>>>>> http://o-fu-online.net >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> http://twitter.com/esaruoho >>>>> http://lackluster.bandcamp.com >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> _____________________________________________ >>>> Sent from my Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48K >>>> _____________________________________________ >>>> noise I make: >>>> http://www.soundcloud.com/pushkin >>>> http://www.last.fm/music/Pushkin >>>> >>>> noise I like: >>>> http://www.last.fm/user/zombiefly >>>> >>>> sites I run: >>>> http://www.ctran.co.uk >>>> http://o-fu-online.net >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> >>> >>> >> >

2014-11-13 11:54Zombieflyorchestration consultant [virtual] On Thursday, 13 November 2014, jay san <jaynotmusic@goo

From:: Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com>
To:: jay san <jaynotmusic@googlemail.com>
Cc:: Juho Hietala <hietala@gmail.com>, IDM List <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 11:54:01 +0000
Subject:: Re: "the producer"
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orchestration consultant [virtual] On Thursday, 13 November 2014, jay san <jaynotmusic@googlemail.com> wrote:

quoted 100 lines Director?

> Director? > > On 12 November 2014 13:53, Juho Hietala <hietala@gmail.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','hietala@gmail.com');>> wrote: > >> well, there’s a mel brooks that goes with it: >> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063462/ >> >> >> On 11 Nov 2014, at 00:00, Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','zombiefly@gmail.com');>> wrote: >> >> What if there are 2 producers in a band? Can they be a band if they don't >> have guitars, flutes and tambourines? >> >> On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 22:57 Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','clinta@gmail.com');>> wrote: >> >>> what about hellfish and producer? >>> >>> >>> Clint Anderson >>> Systems Engineer >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Connor Higgins < >>> connor1higgins@gmail.com >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','connor1higgins@gmail.com');>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hey, if there ain't a guitar involved, then they're just not musicians. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','zombiefly@gmail.com');>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> it extends further than that, Chris Clark and Aphex Twin are now >>>>> producers too. a producer produces other peoples work, like Quincy >>>>> Jones.... it's all wrong, i tells ya! >>>>> >>>>> On 10 November 2014 22:20, Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','esaruoho@gmail.com');>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> it's not that important. >>>>>> bedroom musicians -> bedroom producers >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 11 November 2014 00:16, Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com >>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','zombiefly@gmail.com');>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> since when did electronic music artists become "producers"? every >>>>>>> media outlet now refers to artists as this... why? it's doing my head in... >>>>>>> I think i need some sleep :/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> _____________________________________________ >>>>>>> Sent from my Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48K >>>>>>> _____________________________________________ >>>>>>> noise I make: >>>>>>> http://www.soundcloud.com/pushkin >>>>>>> http://www.last.fm/music/Pushkin >>>>>>> >>>>>>> noise I like: >>>>>>> http://www.last.fm/user/zombiefly >>>>>>> >>>>>>> sites I run: >>>>>>> http://www.ctran.co.uk >>>>>>> http://o-fu-online.net >>>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> http://twitter.com/esaruoho >>>>>> http://lackluster.bandcamp.com >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> _____________________________________________ >>>>> Sent from my Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48K >>>>> _____________________________________________ >>>>> noise I make: >>>>> http://www.soundcloud.com/pushkin >>>>> http://www.last.fm/music/Pushkin >>>>> >>>>> noise I like: >>>>> http://www.last.fm/user/zombiefly >>>>> >>>>> sites I run: >>>>> http://www.ctran.co.uk >>>>> http://o-fu-online.net >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >

2014-11-13 15:10Laurent KnauthDabbler ?! On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com> wrote: > orch

From:: Laurent Knauth <laurent.knauth@gmail.com>
To:: Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com>
Cc:: jay san <jaynotmusic@googlemail.com>, Juho Hietala <hietala@gmail.com>, IDM List <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 16:10:08 +0100
Subject:: Re: "the producer"
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Dabbler ?! On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 115 lines orchestration consultant [virtual]

> orchestration consultant [virtual] > > On Thursday, 13 November 2014, jay san <jaynotmusic@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> Director? >> >> On 12 November 2014 13:53, Juho Hietala <hietala@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> well, there’s a mel brooks that goes with it: >>> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063462/ >>> >>> >>> On 11 Nov 2014, at 00:00, Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> What if there are 2 producers in a band? Can they be a band if they >>> don't have guitars, flutes and tambourines? >>> >>> On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 22:57 Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> what about hellfish and producer? >>>> >>>> >>>> Clint Anderson >>>> Systems Engineer >>>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Connor Higgins < >>>> connor1higgins@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hey, if there ain't a guitar involved, then they're just not musicians. >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> it extends further than that, Chris Clark and Aphex Twin are now >>>>>> producers too. a producer produces other peoples work, like Quincy >>>>>> Jones.... it's all wrong, i tells ya! >>>>>> >>>>>> On 10 November 2014 22:20, Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> it's not that important. >>>>>>> bedroom musicians -> bedroom producers >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 11 November 2014 00:16, Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> since when did electronic music artists become "producers"? every >>>>>>>> media outlet now refers to artists as this... why? it's doing my head in... >>>>>>>> I think i need some sleep :/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> _____________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Sent from my Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48K >>>>>>>> _____________________________________________ >>>>>>>> noise I make: >>>>>>>> http://www.soundcloud.com/pushkin >>>>>>>> http://www.last.fm/music/Pushkin >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> noise I like: >>>>>>>> http://www.last.fm/user/zombiefly >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> sites I run: >>>>>>>> http://www.ctran.co.uk >>>>>>>> http://o-fu-online.net >>>>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> http://twitter.com/esaruoho >>>>>>> http://lackluster.bandcamp.com >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> _____________________________________________ >>>>>> Sent from my Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48K >>>>>> _____________________________________________ >>>>>> noise I make: >>>>>> http://www.soundcloud.com/pushkin >>>>>> http://www.last.fm/music/Pushkin >>>>>> >>>>>> noise I like: >>>>>> http://www.last.fm/user/zombiefly >>>>>> >>>>>> sites I run: >>>>>> http://www.ctran.co.uk >>>>>> http://o-fu-online.net >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > > -- > _____________________________________________ > Sent from my Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48K > _____________________________________________ > noise I make: > http://www.soundcloud.com/pushkin > http://www.last.fm/music/Pushkin > > noise I like: > http://www.last.fm/user/zombiefly > > sites I run: > http://www.ctran.co.uk > http://o-fu-online.net > ------------------------------- >

2014-11-13 16:20Connor HigginsElectro-Warlock of the 9th Order On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Laurent Knauth <laurent

From:: Connor Higgins <connor1higgins@gmail.com>
To:: Laurent Knauth <laurent.knauth@gmail.com>
Cc:: Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com>, jay san <jaynotmusic@googlemail.com>, Juho Hietala <hietala@gmail.com>, IDM List <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 11:20:46 -0500
Subject:: Re: "the producer"
Reply to:: Re: "the producer"

Electro-Warlock of the 9th Order On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Laurent Knauth <laurent.knauth@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 125 lines Dabbler ?!

> Dabbler ?! > > > On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com> wrote: > >> orchestration consultant [virtual] >> >> On Thursday, 13 November 2014, jay san <jaynotmusic@googlemail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Director? >>> >>> On 12 November 2014 13:53, Juho Hietala <hietala@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> well, there’s a mel brooks that goes with it: >>>> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063462/ >>>> >>>> >>>> On 11 Nov 2014, at 00:00, Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> What if there are 2 producers in a band? Can they be a band if they >>>> don't have guitars, flutes and tambourines? >>>> >>>> On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 22:57 Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> what about hellfish and producer? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Connor Higgins < >>>>> connor1higgins@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hey, if there ain't a guitar involved, then they're just not >>>>>> musicians. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> it extends further than that, Chris Clark and Aphex Twin are now >>>>>>> producers too. a producer produces other peoples work, like Quincy >>>>>>> Jones.... it's all wrong, i tells ya! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 10 November 2014 22:20, Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> it's not that important. >>>>>>>> bedroom musicians -> bedroom producers >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 11 November 2014 00:16, Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> since when did electronic music artists become "producers"? every >>>>>>>>> media outlet now refers to artists as this... why? it's doing my head in... >>>>>>>>> I think i need some sleep :/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> _____________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Sent from my Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48K >>>>>>>>> _____________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> noise I make: >>>>>>>>> http://www.soundcloud.com/pushkin >>>>>>>>> http://www.last.fm/music/Pushkin >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> noise I like: >>>>>>>>> http://www.last.fm/user/zombiefly >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> sites I run: >>>>>>>>> http://www.ctran.co.uk >>>>>>>>> http://o-fu-online.net >>>>>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/esaruoho >>>>>>>> http://lackluster.bandcamp.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> _____________________________________________ >>>>>>> Sent from my Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48K >>>>>>> _____________________________________________ >>>>>>> noise I make: >>>>>>> http://www.soundcloud.com/pushkin >>>>>>> http://www.last.fm/music/Pushkin >>>>>>> >>>>>>> noise I like: >>>>>>> http://www.last.fm/user/zombiefly >>>>>>> >>>>>>> sites I run: >>>>>>> http://www.ctran.co.uk >>>>>>> http://o-fu-online.net >>>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> _____________________________________________ >> Sent from my Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48K >> _____________________________________________ >> noise I make: >> http://www.soundcloud.com/pushkin >> http://www.last.fm/music/Pushkin >> >> noise I like: >> http://www.last.fm/user/zombiefly >> >> sites I run: >> http://www.ctran.co.uk >> http://o-fu-online.net >> ------------------------------- >> > > >

2014-11-14 08:27Esa RuohoSigil-drawer. (re: Aphex interviews). On 13 November 2014 18:20, Connor Higgins <connor1hi

From:: Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com>
To:: Connor Higgins <connor1higgins@gmail.com>
Cc:: IDM List <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Fri, 14 Nov 2014 10:27:59 +0200
Subject:: Re: "the producer"
Reply to:: Re: "the producer"

Sigil-drawer. (re: Aphex interviews). On 13 November 2014 18:20, Connor Higgins <connor1higgins@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 131 lines Electro-Warlock of the 9th Order

> Electro-Warlock of the 9th Order > > On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Laurent Knauth <laurent.knauth@gmail.com > > wrote: > >> Dabbler ?! >> >> >> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> orchestration consultant [virtual] >>> >>> On Thursday, 13 November 2014, jay san <jaynotmusic@googlemail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Director? >>>> >>>> On 12 November 2014 13:53, Juho Hietala <hietala@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> well, there's a mel brooks that goes with it: >>>>> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063462/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 11 Nov 2014, at 00:00, Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> What if there are 2 producers in a band? Can they be a band if they >>>>> don't have guitars, flutes and tambourines? >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 22:57 Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> what about hellfish and producer? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Connor Higgins < >>>>>> connor1higgins@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hey, if there ain't a guitar involved, then they're just not >>>>>>> musicians. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> it extends further than that, Chris Clark and Aphex Twin are now >>>>>>>> producers too. a producer produces other peoples work, like Quincy >>>>>>>> Jones.... it's all wrong, i tells ya! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 10 November 2014 22:20, Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> it's not that important. >>>>>>>>> bedroom musicians -> bedroom producers >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 11 November 2014 00:16, Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> since when did electronic music artists become "producers"? every >>>>>>>>>> media outlet now refers to artists as this... why? it's doing my head in... >>>>>>>>>> I think i need some sleep :/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> _____________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48K >>>>>>>>>> _____________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> noise I make: >>>>>>>>>> http://www.soundcloud.com/pushkin >>>>>>>>>> http://www.last.fm/music/Pushkin >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> noise I like: >>>>>>>>>> http://www.last.fm/user/zombiefly >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> sites I run: >>>>>>>>>> http://www.ctran.co.uk >>>>>>>>>> http://o-fu-online.net >>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/esaruoho >>>>>>>>> http://lackluster.bandcamp.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> _____________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Sent from my Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48K >>>>>>>> _____________________________________________ >>>>>>>> noise I make: >>>>>>>> http://www.soundcloud.com/pushkin >>>>>>>> http://www.last.fm/music/Pushkin >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> noise I like: >>>>>>>> http://www.last.fm/user/zombiefly >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> sites I run: >>>>>>>> http://www.ctran.co.uk >>>>>>>> http://o-fu-online.net >>>>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> _____________________________________________ >>> Sent from my Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48K >>> _____________________________________________ >>> noise I make: >>> http://www.soundcloud.com/pushkin >>> http://www.last.fm/music/Pushkin >>> >>> noise I like: >>> http://www.last.fm/user/zombiefly >>> >>> sites I run: >>> http://www.ctran.co.uk >>> http://o-fu-online.net >>> ------------------------------- >>> >> >> >> >

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Re: "the producer"